windows copy utility

J

jj

Why does The "DEP" keep closing windows copy utility? This problem just
started happening and I do not know what is causing it to happer. What is
window copy utility?

thanks
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

jj said:
Why does The "DEP" keep closing windows copy utility? This problem just
started happening and I do not know what is causing it to happer. What is
window copy utility?

thanks

What is "The DEP"?
 
J

John Inzer

Pegasus said:
What is "The DEP"?
====================================
Have a look at the following articles:

Windows Vista -
DEP Data Execution Prevention: frequently asked questions
http://tinyurl.com/2ytwf5
or...
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/186de3d0-01af-4d4c-981d-674637d2f4bf1033.mspx

Windows Vista -
DEP Change Data Execution Prevention settings
http://tinyurl.com/qldjxf
or...
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/1d9bb9b4-f6ba-466d-ac2b-7b8c4f8361611033.mspx

--

J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

John Inzer said:
====================================
Have a look at the following articles:

Windows Vista -
DEP Data Execution Prevention: frequently asked questions
http://tinyurl.com/2ytwf5
or...
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/186de3d0-01af-4d4c-981d-674637d2f4bf1033.mspx

Windows Vista -
DEP Change Data Execution Prevention settings
http://tinyurl.com/qldjxf
or...
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/1d9bb9b4-f6ba-466d-ac2b-7b8c4f8361611033.mspx

Great - thanks for the tip. Now what's this Vista question doing in a
newsgroup that is clearly marked "Windows XP"? (This, of course, is a
question for the OP, not for you).
 
G

Gerry

Off topic John <G>. This is a Windows XP newsgroup!

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Pegasus

DEP was introduced in Windows XP Service Pack 2


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

jj

DEP is happening in WinXP SP3. this is not a vista OS. It was a vista
machine and i deleted it and installed XP Pro.I have not added any copying
utility. this problem has just started happening. could it be a virus or
something? i have done a full scan using McAfee. i have windows defender
installed, and i have taken all the protection i can. it shows in the DEP
allert that windows copy utility is a window program

thanks
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

jj said:
how does a MVP not know about DEP (data execution pervention) in Windows
XP?

What makes you think that MVPs know everything about Windows? They don't.
You may know a few things about Windows that I don't and I probably know a
thing or two that you don't.
 
G

Gerry

jj

I do not know much about DEP. My current system has the default Opt In
setting.

A detailed description of the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) feature in
Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, and
Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352#5

The question you have to establish is why is it intervening? Are you
running any older software from a previous computer?

How and what are you copying? Please describe in detail? Does it
involve external media e.g. CD / DVD and software like Roxio and the
like?


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

What makes you think that MVPs know everything about Windows? They don't.
You may know a few things about Windows that I don't and I probably know a
thing or two that you don't.


Not only that, but if he had called it "DEP" instead of "The DEP," you
would probably have known what he meant.

When I saw his original message, with the word "The" before "DEP," I
also thought he was talking about something other than "Data Execution
Prevention."
 
J

jj

Guys

i look to you guys and all the people on this group to help me with
problems. i have allways had very good resolution when i have visited here.
i was a little upset that i was dressed down for posting in the wrong group
when it was indeed a XP problem. i humblie appoligize
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

jj said:
Guys

i look to you guys and all the people on this group to help me with
problems. i have allways had very good resolution when i have visited
here. i was a little upset that i was dressed down for posting in the
wrong group when it was indeed a XP problem. i humblie appoligize

When you wrote "how does a MVP not know about DEP (data execution
pervention) in Windows XP?" you probably meant to say "how does a MVP not
know that DEP (data execution pervention) is a Windows XP / Vista feature?"
This would have been a good point, revealing that I failed to do sufficient
homework after reading John Inzer's reply and that my point about your
incorrect posting was misplaced. Your question was appropriate all along and
you posted it in the correct newsgroup.

About the problem itself: Gery's question is highly relevant. Since DEP
kicks in when Windows attempts to execute code that resides in an area
reserved for data, the question is: What "copy utility" do you use? Windows
Explorer? Some console command such as "copy" or "robocopy"? Some
third-party tool? What did you install or change recently? Have you
considered using System Restore to reset your system to a date prior to
observing the problem? Do you have good and updated virus scanner?
 
J

jj

Pegasus said:
When you wrote "how does a MVP not know about DEP (data execution
pervention) in Windows XP?" you probably meant to say "how does a MVP not
know that DEP (data execution pervention) is a Windows XP / Vista
feature?" This would have been a good point, revealing that I failed to do
sufficient homework after reading John Inzer's reply and that my point
about your incorrect posting was misplaced. Your question was appropriate
all along and you posted it in the correct newsgroup.

About the problem itself: Gery's question is highly relevant. Since DEP
kicks in when Windows attempts to execute code that resides in an area
reserved for data, the question is: What "copy utility" do you use?
Windows Explorer? Some console command such as "copy" or "robocopy"? Some
third-party tool? What did you install or change recently? Have you
considered using System Restore to reset your system to a date prior to
observing the problem? Do you have good and updated virus scanner?
I did not install or change anything prior to the DEP message. I can only
restore to the point where DEP starting occuring. If I try to restore
eariler than that, the restore fails with no explaination. Another issue
started happening about the same time. Windows Automatic Update tries to
install "Microsoft-Other Hardware-HID non-user input data filter (KB
911895). It fails to install and I am prompted repeatedly that new updates
are available to install. Also if i try to do a manual update it fails also.
Is this related to the original problem?

Thanks for all of your help
jj
 
J

jj

i am not trying to copy anything. This happens at startup. it says that the
aurthor of windows copy utility is microsoft corporation. this computer
originally had vista on it. i formatted the HD and installed XP SP3, but
that was a year ago. there have been no recient installs or changes.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

This is beginning to sound increasingly like malware or like a virus. Have
you tried googling for the *exact* text of the error message you see?
 
J

jj

I mis-spoke the program that DEP has been shutting down. It is extended copy
utility and it shows the publisher as windown corp. the exact error number:
0x80072ee2 and the supporting site is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/836941

I have tried all the fixes listed in the above link except method D because
my sat internet will not work w/o the accelerator software running. i did go
to the update page after trying the steps in the link and recieved three
other updates and they installed fine. The "Microsoft-Other Hardware-HID
Non-User Input Data Filter" still fails to update.

Thanks
jj
 

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