Windows Backup Utility in SP2 seems to be broken

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Mark K Vallevand

First, thanks Microsoft, for making the Windows Backup Utility component
visible. If the utility is used with it's GUI, it works fine. But, if you
call it with valid parameters from a command prompt, it does nothing. If
you call it with the -? parameter, it kills explorer. The -? parameter is
supposed to open the help information. I must not have the necessary help
components installed. I also noticed the the help files in the component
aren't copied to the build directory, which tends to confirm that some help
component is missing.

Anyone have any ideas?

How do I get ntbackup to work from the command line as advertised?
Why aren't its help files copied? Are they needed?

BTW, the same command line works in Win XP Pro.

And one final set of information... Using dependency walker, there are 5
dlls that the Win XP Pro version uses which are not in my XPe image. All
other dependencies it found are in my image.
Apphelp.dll (part of the Application Compatibility Core, which drags in tons
of other stuff, like dx9)
Mobsync.dll (part of Internet Explorer Offline Browsing)
Msjava.dll (not found in the repository)
Ocmange.dll (not found in the repository)
W32topl.dll (primitive)

Adding the W32topl.dll made no difference.

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Mark K Vallevand (e-mail address removed)

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KM

Mark,

The first idea that pops up in mind - do you have "Do not copy help files for this component" option cleared on the component
settings page?
Also the "Do not copy help files for this configuration" option on the Configuration Settings page? (Other Settings section)

Just make sure that ntbackup.hlp and ntbackup.chm get to the build.
 
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Mark K Vallevand

OK. One clear and one set. Both are clear now and I'll rebuild.

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Mark K Vallevand (e-mail address removed)

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Mark K Vallevand

The help files show up now (along with 10mb of other help files) and I'll
see if it makes any difference with ntbackup.

The answer is: it still does not work. (However, ntbackup -? doesn't kill
explorer any more. Small consolation.)

Hmmm. How to debug? Well, the ntbackup log file reports the very helpful
"A valid backup operation was not specified on the command line." I've
tried reducing the command to as simple a request as possible. The simple
command works on XP Pro, but not on XPe.

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Mark K Vallevand (e-mail address removed)

Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
- Benjamin Franklin


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KM

Mark,
The help files show up now (along with 10mb of other help files) and I'll
see if it makes any difference with ntbackup.

This is why I have included a useful feature within the XPeTools macro component settings page (www.xpefiles.com) that will allow
you do turn off that help file option for Configuration but turn if on for all the component. Then you will just need to clear the
option for your own component.
The answer is: it still does not work. (However, ntbackup -? doesn't kill
explorer any more. Small consolation.)

Ahh... small win is also good :)
Hmmm. How to debug? Well, the ntbackup log file reports the very helpful
"A valid backup operation was not specified on the command line." I've
tried reducing the command to as simple a request as possible. The simple
command works on XP Pro, but not on XPe.

FileMon, Regmon, Event View logs.
 
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Mark K Vallevand

OK. It works now. I'm not sure what I did.
I'm working backwards to see what I did right (or what I did wrong in the
first place).

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Mark K Vallevand (e-mail address removed)

Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
- Benjamin Franklin


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