Win XP oem question

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Jack K

I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some around
it?

Thanks
 
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Shenan Stanley

Jack said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running
the o/s from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some
around it?

Are you asking from a TECHNICAL standpoint or an AGREEMENT standpoint?
 
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Brian G

Jack said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running
the o/s from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some
around it?

Thanks

Jack,

Presuming it's a legal copy, just install and re-activate XP after the
upgrade. If it bitches at that, telephone Microsoft if asked at any prompt,
and tell them what has been done and all should be well.
 
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relic

Jack said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running
the o/s from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some
around it?

Legally? No.

Microsoft keeps records for 120 days and will know you're trying to install
it on a different machine during that time. However, they will allow you to
install a new motherboard to repair your PC because the old motherboard
burned-up. If it's been longer than 120 days, it will activate normally.
 
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Rock

I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some around
it?

The OEM EULA says it's tied to the first computer on which it's installed so
the issue is, what constitutes a new computer? Some people maintain that
the motherboard is it, others not, and there is no MS documentation to tie
it either to a motherboard or to say what constitutes a new computer.

It should install on the new system. If it activates over the internet,
then fine. If not you'll have to make a phone call and then it depends on
who you get and how they interpret it for whether they will activate it.
 
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BigJim

I have reinstalled my xp oem version at least 4 times when changing hardware
without problems.
 
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Ron Martell

Jack K said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some around
it?

One big concern is with the exact nature of your installed OEM Windows
XP. If it is one of the "BIOS Locked" versions of XP then it can only
be activated on a motherboard that comes from the same OEM that
producted the original computer.

To tell if your installed OEM version of Windows XP is BIOS Locked use
Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools and look for an
"Activate Windows" menu item. If there is no Activate Windows item
on the System Tools menu then your installed OEM Windows XP is BIOS
Locked and cannot be activated on a motherboard from any other source.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
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Bruce Chambers

Jack said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some around
it?

Thanks


It depends entirely upon what specific type of OEM re-installation CD
you have. While there's nothing in the OEM EULA to prohibit upgrading
the motherboard, you may have a technical problem.

If you have an unbranded, generic OEM installation CD, you'll have no
problem. However, if all you have is a branded OEM recovery CD, or a
BIOS-locked, branded CD, it most likely won't work on the new
motherboard. Some OEMs went a bit overboard when implementing
Microsoft's anti-piracy wishes.


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Immure Obfuscation

It depends entirely upon what specific type of OEM re-installation CD you
have. While there's nothing in the OEM EULA to prohibit upgrading the
motherboard, you may have a technical problem.

If you have an unbranded, generic OEM installation CD, you'll have no
problem. However, if all you have is a branded OEM recovery CD, or a
BIOS-locked, branded CD, it most likely won't work on the new motherboard.
Some OEMs went a bit overboard when implementing Microsoft's anti-piracy
wishes.

I had that problem with a Dell box. They replaced the motherboard. Turns
out, that was unnecessary ... the problem was a bad memory module!

But anyway, after reinstalling Windows using the Dell recovery disk, Windows
asked for activation. The BIOS of the replacement motherboard does not have
a Dell service code in it. So Windows won't activate. (Why didn't the idiot
repairman deal with this!?)

I called Dell and they said I could download a small program that would
update the BIOS to fix the problem. Unfortunately, that program failed,
saying that it only works with version X of BIOS, and I had version X minus
1.

I called Dell again, and they had to work through an entirely different
solution. Can't remember the details. But this is a pain you don't want to
go through!
 
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Alias

Jack said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP, or is there some around
it?

Thanks

If it's a branded OEM from someone like Dell or HP, no, it won't work.
If it's a generic OEM, yes, a clean install will work and is completely
legit.

Alias
 
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Alias

relic said:
Legally? No.

Complying with the EULA, YES! Legal, YES!
Microsoft keeps records for 120 days and will know you're trying to install
it on a different machine during that time. However, they will allow you to
install a new motherboard to repair your PC because the old motherboard
burned-up. If it's been longer than 120 days, it will activate normally.

Upgrading one's machine does NOT constitute a "new machine"!

Alias
 
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Alias

Immure said:
I had that problem with a Dell box. They replaced the motherboard. Turns
out, that was unnecessary ... the problem was a bad memory module!

But anyway, after reinstalling Windows using the Dell recovery disk, Windows
asked for activation. The BIOS of the replacement motherboard does not have
a Dell service code in it. So Windows won't activate. (Why didn't the idiot
repairman deal with this!?)

I called Dell and they said I could download a small program that would
update the BIOS to fix the problem. Unfortunately, that program failed,
saying that it only works with version X of BIOS, and I had version X minus
1.

I called Dell again, and they had to work through an entirely different
solution. Can't remember the details. But this is a pain you don't want to
go through!

Ain't activation great? It only affects paying customers like you and
does nothing to stop piracy.

Alias
 
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Jonny

"OEM" regarding a windows installation is a general term. Just like
hardware designated "OEM".
More specifics needed for a specific answer.
 
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Tim Slattery

Jack K said:
I'm running an oem win xp on my computer.

I'm going to change out the mobo, cpu, and hd that I'll be running the o/s
from.

Does this mean I'm going to have to get a new XP

Very likely. An OEM machine is licensed only for the first machine on
which it's installed. If it came with your computer, then it is very
likely locked to the BIOS on that computer's motherboard.

Microsoft does not support OEM systems, that support comes - or is
supposed to come - from the OEM. In particular, the OEM decides what
constitutes a "new machine". From what I've heard, replacing their
motherboard with one you buy yourself makes it a "new machine" in most
OEMs minds. That means that they won't help you get around the BIOS
lock for the new mobo, and you're stuck.
 
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Rebecca

Alias said:
Complying with the EULA, YES! Legal, YES!


Upgrading one's machine does NOT constitute a "new machine"!

A new motherboard, CPU, and Harddrive will be construed to be a new machine
by Microsoft's reasoning; especially since the new motherboard probably has
incorporated a new Sound card and a new NIC.
 
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You ****ing dumb ****.

Men of few words. C'mon, tell him how you really feel.
Yet another NitWit that adds nothing but vitriol. Hope you drown applying
your toilet water after the lid bashes you in the head.
 
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A new motherboard, CPU, and Harddrive will be construed to be a new
machine by Microsoft's reasoning; especially since the new motherboard
probably has incorporated a new Sound card and a new NIC.


Or, as others have mentioned, if you're lucky enough to own a machine like
a Dell, and the installation peeks at the BIOS to see if it says "Dell"

Some MFG's do, some don't. If you're lucky enough to have a Gateway
licensed version, you can probably do it, but only after reformatting your
HDD and wiping everything you had.
 
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Alias

Rebecca said:
A new motherboard, CPU, and Harddrive will be construed to be a new machine
by Microsoft's reasoning; especially since the new motherboard probably has
incorporated a new Sound card and a new NIC.

False. Read the EULA for a generic OEM XP. No mention of "motherboard",
"hard drive" or "CPU". What's questionable is your "reasoning".

Alias
 

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