Will most of the NF4 borads support X2 CPU's when available?

[NoNoBadDog!]

Intel chips cannot begin to compete with AMD dual core...

First, Intel Dual core shares a single 1MB L2 cache, and it is an inclusive
cache, not exclusive.
AMD has a separate 1MB L2 cache for each core, and each cache is exclusive
(meaning that the data in the L1 data bus in not duplicated in the L2 cache
as it is in the Intel).

The two cores on an Intel dual core cannot communicate directly with each
other through the crossbar. They can only communicate through the
Northbridge chip. AMD dual core can talk directly to each other, through
it's integrated crossbar and controller, at the full effective speed of the
processor.

AMD dual core have an onboard memory controller and communicate with the
AGP/PCI-E/SLI?RAM through the Hypertransport bus at 2GHz in bidirectional
mode. Intel dual core procs have no onboard memory controller, and they are
locked to either a 533Mhz or 800MHz Northbridge FSB, slowing everything down
and introducing wait states, as this is a simplex system and can only send
and receive in separate clock cycles.

AMD dual core, because of it's architecture, can be a drop in replacement to
any 939 pin motherboard that can support an AMD FX chip (95% of the 939 pin
mobos made in the last 15 months fall into this category). Intel dual core
requires a new (and very expensive) motherboard. This negates the savings
on the chip.

But when Intel moves to the next-generation 65-nanometer chip-fabrication
process, the company will introduce a new desktop processor code-named
Presler that encloses two die in one chip package. Presler will look like a
multicore processor to the operating system, but inside, it will actually
have only one core per die. That's not quite a true multicore processor.

Here is a link to more information about the Presler core:

http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/05/multicore_madne.html

So, as you can see, Intel will continue it's time honored tradition of lying
to it's paying customers while spending truckloads of cash making them think
that Intel chips are better than AMD.

Buyer beware.

Bobby

 

[Jill haoulder]

Toatly agree. But the average PC user a a brian dead Numb nut who
beleives TV commercials.

So intel will sell the most. While the rest of us will buy the AMD
chips and atleast keep em in bussiness.

 

[goofy]

Toatly agree. But the average PC user a a brian dead Numb nut who
beleives TV commercials.

So intel will sell the most. While the rest of us will buy the AMD
chips and atleast keep em in bussiness.

So what up with this stuff ?



http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915

Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
Friday 27 May 2005 - 11:02

Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail of controlling
copyright through the motherboard has moved a step closer with
Intel Corp. now embedding digital rights management within in its
latest dual-core processor Pentium D and accompanying 945
chipset.

Officially launched worldwide on May 26, the new offerings come
DRM-enabled and will, at least in theory, allow copyright holders
to prevent unauthorized copying and distribution of copyrighted
materials from the motherboard rather than through the operating
system as is currently the case.

While Intel steered clear of mentioning the new DRM technology
at its Australian launch of the new products, Intel's Australian
technical manager Graham Tucker publicly confirmed Microsoft-
flavored DRM technology will be a feature of Pentium D and 945.

"[The] 945g [chipset] supports DRM, it helps implement Microsoft's
DRM ... but it supports DRM looking forward," Tucker said, adding
the DRM technology would not be able to be applied retrospectively
to media or files that did not interoperate with the new technology.

However, Tucker ducked questions regarding technical details of
how embedded DRM would work saying it was not in the interests
of his company to spell out how the technology in the interests of
security.

The situation presents an interesting dilemma for IT security managers
as they may now be beholden to hardware-embedded security over
which they have little say, information or control.

Conversely, Intel is heavily promoting what it calls "active
management
technology" (AMT) in the new chips as a major plus for system
administrators and enterprise IT. Understood to be a sub-operating
system residing in the chip's firmware, AMT will allow administrators
to both monitor or control individual machines independent of an
operating system.

Additionally, AMT also features what Intel calls "IDE redirection"
which will allow administrators to remotely enable, disable or format
or configure individual drives and reload operating systems and
software from remote locations, again independent of operating
systems. Both AMT and IDE control are enabled by a new network
interface controller.

"We all know our [operating system] friends don't crash that often,
but it does happen," Tucker said.

Intel's reticence to speak publicly about what lies under the hood
of its latest firmware technology has also prompted calls to come
clean from IT security experts, including Queensland University of
Technology's assistant dean for strategy and innovation, IT faculty,
Bill Caelli.

"It's a dual use technology. It's got uses and misuses. Intel has to
answer what guarantees it is prepared to give that home users are
safe from hackers. Not maybes, guarantees".

Caelli said it was "critical Intel comes clean" about how the current
DRM technology is embedded into the new CPU and chipset
offering.

Microsoft was unavailable for comment at press time.

Julian Bajkowski

 

[Doug Lynn]

Hi, a Athlon 64 that is designed for E revision cpus with 95W power
supplies should support Dual core cpus, a list is on
http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/ResultsHandler/1,,30_182_869_9460^9461~73649,00.html
Of course
bios upgrade will be required from the manufacturer.

www.lynncomp.com