will a new motherboard improve my system performance for doom 3

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ed

I have an A7V333 mobo , athlon xp 3000 (maximum cpu for the board) with
gforce 5900, 512meg of ddr 2700 memory,
Will an upgrade to an nvidia mobo such as Abit AN7 Guru nForce2 Ultra,
10/100 LAN, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=87815 or the
Abit NF7-S2G nForce2 Ultra, Gbit Lan, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=127220
have any improvement on my system speed. in particular 3d shootem ups and
specifically doom3.
I am aware that another 512 of memory will help speed things up.
TIA if this is off topic please be kind and piont me in the write direction
for advice.
 
D

Derek Baker

ed said:
I have an A7V333 mobo , athlon xp 3000 (maximum cpu for the board)
with gforce 5900, 512meg of ddr 2700 memory,
Will an upgrade to an nvidia mobo such as Abit AN7 Guru nForce2 Ultra,
10/100 LAN, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=87815 or
the Abit NF7-S2G nForce2 Ultra, Gbit Lan, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio,
SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=127220
have any improvement on my system speed. in particular 3d shootem ups
and specifically doom3.
I am aware that another 512 of memory will help speed things up.
TIA if this is off topic please be kind and piont me in the write
direction for advice.

No.
 
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Morgan Sales

JK said:
Upgrading to an Athlon 64 and a new motherboard for it might
help quite a bit.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7

Of course upgrading to a 6800 Ultra or 6800 GT video card will also
help quite a bit.

http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQyLDM=

But I wouldn't upgrade anything just to play Doom 3. It aint that good.

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Morgan.
----
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defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.

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ed

thanks chaps for the help regarding the mobo. but not for morgans excellent
critique of the FPS genre summed up beautifully with the phrase " It aint
that good." the miserable snattergutch. ;-}
 
K

kony

I have an A7V333 mobo , athlon xp 3000 (maximum cpu for the board) with
gforce 5900, 512meg of ddr 2700 memory,
Will an upgrade to an nvidia mobo such as Abit AN7 Guru nForce2 Ultra,
10/100 LAN, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=87815 or the
Abit NF7-S2G nForce2 Ultra, Gbit Lan, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=127220
have any improvement on my system speed. in particular 3d shootem ups and
specifically doom3.
I am aware that another 512 of memory will help speed things up.
TIA if this is off topic please be kind and piont me in the write direction
for advice.

nFore2 board running in dual channel mode "might" get you another
5% with same CPU & video, and has a better PCI bus but that's not
so relevant to gaming.

Realistically the best upgrade at this point would be rebuilding
or a new box with an A64 CPU, m'board, a couple PC3500 512MB
memory modules... you could add more memory but A7V333 may be
bordering on instability with more memory plus you probably won't
get many more FPS with only the memory upgrade.
 
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mbowen83

I agree with JK. A new mobo would only be warranted if you intended on
upgrading your processor as well. The most benificial thing you could do
besides going out and buying and Alienware area 51 extreme, would be
upgrading your video card to something a little more powerful (also the
more on board memory the card has the better, since it won't be eating
system ram for video)

mbowen83
 
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Morgan Sales

ed said:
thanks chaps for the help regarding the mobo. but not for morgans
excellent critique of the FPS genre summed up beautifully with the
phrase " It aint that good." the miserable snattergutch. ;-}

You want to waste your money that's fine. Just don't come crying to me when
you realise it's not even worth the money for the game let alone the money
for new hardware.

BTW, what in gods name is a snattergutch? :)

--
Morgan.
----
* When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we fall asleep. When we
fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
Sooooo, let's all get drunk, and go to heaven... :- Brian O'Rourke

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JK

The new hardware will help with other games and software
that is not a game. It isn't like only Doom 3 performance would
benefit from hardware upgrades.
 
N

Noozer

ed said:
I have an A7V333 mobo , athlon xp 3000 (maximum cpu for the board) with
gforce 5900, 512meg of ddr 2700 memory,
Will an upgrade to an nvidia mobo such as Abit AN7 Guru nForce2 Ultra,
10/100 LAN, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=87815 or the
Abit NF7-S2G nForce2 Ultra, Gbit Lan, USB 2.0, 1394, 6Ch Audio, SATA, Raid
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=127220
have any improvement on my system speed. in particular 3d shootem ups and
specifically doom3.

NOTHING will help Doom3...

Doom 3 is one of the main reasons that piracy exists. They hype up the
software until everyone is foaming at the mouth. Then they release it and
make a ton of sales quickly. It doesn't take long for everyone to realize
that its a big piece o' crap.

I'm VERY glad I didn't shell any money out for this game.
I am aware that another 512 of memory will help speed things up.
TIA if this is off topic please be kind and piont me in the write direction
for advice.

FWIW, You could try adding another 512meg of memory to your system. A faster
HDD might help, (especially a Raptor SATA drive if your mainboard supports
it, but I don't think so).

At this point there isn't much you can do to make your PC faster except
replace it, and your machine looks like it's already plenty fast! Don't
waste your time or money worrying about it.
 
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Morgan Sales

JK said:
The new hardware will help with other games and software
that is not a game. It isn't like only Doom 3 performance would
benefit from hardware upgrades.

Well yen, but that's obvious, and he was asking about Doom 3 specifically.
My post was really intended to be a bit of a laugh combined with a warning,
but if he is really is intending to upgrade with the main intention of
improving Doom 3 performance then I seriously think he's be better off not
bothering. I've got £2000 on one side for a new system, but I'm not even
bothering to research components at the moment because there's nothing out
worth upgrading for.

--
Morgan.
----
* All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me - so let's just
do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer. :- Homer Simpson

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Webpage: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/msales
 
J

JK

An Athlon 64 FX-53 or Athlon 64 3800+ together with
a 6800 Ultra video card would be a great foundation for a
superb gaming machine.
 
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ed

thanks to contributors , quick response time, concise and informative.
I was after the best "bang per buck" advice for the most economical route
and with your help i now know to stay with my current system and have a
total upgrade in a year or two when pci express kicks in and becomes
economical. Doom 3 is a greedy programme though, for processing power and
will no doubt create a surge in hardware sales (Now theres a conspiracy
theory to ponder!)
 
M

Morgan Sales

JK said:
An Athlon 64 FX-53 or Athlon 64 3800+ together with
a 6800 Ultra video card would be a great foundation for a
superb gaming machine.

Granted, but like I said, I'm holding off for a while. I'm gonna wait for a
few more interesting games to game out. My current rig (Athlon XP 3000+,
1GB DDR RAM, Radeon 9800pro) is passable. I'm thinking Christmas time might
be good. Any idea when we can expect to see PCI express motherboards coming
onto the market?
 

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