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Seymour Bigby-Heinz
LOL, OMG that is true! I habitually warn people away from Norton
products, nowadays.
Sounds like the typical smear campaign. Which one of the competing
product vendors are you working for?
Sy
LOL, OMG that is true! I habitually warn people away from Norton
products, nowadays.
Plus, IMHO Norton antivirus has been compromised, it seems. Every
single person I serviced who had Norton antivirus turned out to be
infected with something. Usually several somethings. And most of them
WERE keeping it updated.
If it's so bad, why is it the choice of most businesses and governments?
Yeah I know, it's a conspiracy, somebody's being paid off to use their
products, right?
Dave said:Built a computer for my nephew a couple years ago. It was so nice at the
time, that it's still a decent gaming machine. He's living with mom's
boyfriend, who was trying to be helpful. So he (mom's boyfriend) upgraded
the system from (sygate personal firewall plus AVG anti-virus) to Norton
Internet Security 2006. My nephew said he was having trouble connecting to
the Internet after that, but I didn't know about Norton. So my nephew came
over to stay with us for a few weeks, and brought the whole computer system
with him. I couldn't get his computer to connect to our network at all.
Plus I found some files in the startup tab that looked suspiciously like
virus activity. But the system was protected by Norton, so it couldn't be
virus activity, could it?
Anyway, from previous experience, I know that Norton anything usually causes
more problems than it attempts to fix. But I didn't want to leave the
system unprotected. So I disconnected the system from the Internet
temporarily. Then I installed an old (but still works great!) version of
sygate personal firewall, plus the latest versions of AVG and Avast!
antivirus software.
So the system is still disconnected from the Internet, and I'm attempting to
uninstall Norton. Norton takes forever to uninstall (several minutes).
DURING THIS TIME, Avast! pops up a warning saying it's found a trojan on the
hard drive. (shit!) Later, Norton is still in the process of uninstalling
and AVG pops up a warning that it found a virus on the hard drive. (double
SHIT!!!)
So I finally got Norton uninstalled, connected the LAN, rebooted, and
confirmed that the system was connecting just fine to the Internet again.
(but now protected by a hardware firewall, a software firewall, and two
antivirus programs). Then I scheduled a virus scan (on boot) with Avast!
On reboot, Avast! ran a complete scan and found MANY DOZENS of trojan and
virus files.
And how much did the helpful "mom's boyfriend" spend on that worthless
Norton software? I don't want to know. -Dave
Beats me. I use a Mac and a hardware firewall. Problem solved. No need
to waste my computer's processing cycles to filter out Windows malware.
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:Sounds like the typical smear campaign. Which one of the competing
product vendors are you working for?
Sy
Anecdotal evidence of one bad experience is completely lame. I use a
variety of antivirus packages for maintaining my machines and
Symantec is among the better ones.
It hasn't exactly been a secret that Norton AV and Systemworks are extremely
bloated and cause a lot of performance problems the past few years. There
used to be a program called Symclean that would remove the majority of
Symantec/Norton AV and Systemworks registry entries (over 100 easy) but I am
not sure if it is still around.
Ed
Shawn Hirn said:Beats me. I use a Mac and a hardware firewall. Problem solved. No need
to waste my computer's processing cycles to filter out Windows malware.
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:We use a variety because no single AV product catches everything.
Symantec is among the few that detects the most problems accurately.
Sy
JAD said:what do you do about mac malware? .
horse pucky.... I guess if I paid money for an incompetent product I would
try and defend it too
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:That's a very good indicator of your IQ. Personally, if I thought it
was an 'incompetent product', I'd say so.
Sy
You ain't never lie. I would never recommend Norton products - not only
because they are unnecessarily bloated, top-heavy, annoying, and
complex, - not only because they dig their damn tentacles in so deep in
so many directions that it is impossible to neatly uninstall - not only
because it is over-hyped and over-priced - mainly because it causes
visible, palpable system slowdown.
Plus, IMHO Norton antivirus has been compromised, it seems. Every
single person I serviced who had Norton antivirus turned out to be
infected with something. Usually several somethings. And most of them
WERE keeping it updated.
itemyar said:Well, I retired from the Federal government about 3 years ago and they use
it! I was in
used it. Like it or not, it's still the most widely used program!
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itemyar said:If it's so bad, why is it the choice of most businesses and governments?
Yeah I know, it's a conspiracy, somebody's being paid off to use their
products, right?
I use Symantec products currently. I have also used Norton UtilitiesBuilt a computer for my nephew a couple years ago. It was so nice at the
time, that it's still a decent gaming machine. He's living with mom's
boyfriend, who was trying to be helpful. So he (mom's boyfriend) upgraded
the system from (sygate personal firewall plus AVG anti-virus) to Norton
Internet Security 2006. My nephew said he was having trouble connecting to
the Internet after that, but I didn't know about Norton. So my nephew came
over to stay with us for a few weeks, and brought the whole computer system
with him. I couldn't get his computer to connect to our network at all.
Plus I found some files in the startup tab that looked suspiciously like
virus activity. But the system was protected by Norton, so it couldn't be
virus activity, could it?
Anyway, from previous experience, I know that Norton anything usually causes
more problems than it attempts to fix. But I didn't want to leave the
system unprotected. So I disconnected the system from the Internet
temporarily. Then I installed an old (but still works great!) version of
sygate personal firewall, plus the latest versions of AVG and Avast!
antivirus software.
So the system is still disconnected from the Internet, and I'm attempting to
uninstall Norton. Norton takes forever to uninstall (several minutes).
DURING THIS TIME, Avast! pops up a warning saying it's found a trojan on the
hard drive. (shit!) Later, Norton is still in the process of uninstalling
and AVG pops up a warning that it found a virus on the hard drive. (double
SHIT!!!)
So I finally got Norton uninstalled, connected the LAN, rebooted, and
confirmed that the system was connecting just fine to the Internet again.
(but now protected by a hardware firewall, a software firewall, and two
antivirus programs). Then I scheduled a virus scan (on boot) with Avast!
On reboot, Avast! ran a complete scan and found MANY DOZENS of trojan and
virus files.
And how much did the helpful "mom's boyfriend" spend on that worthless
Norton software? I don't want to know. -Dave
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