Why Windows Live Mail??

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LVTravel

Robert Reed said:
I am glad I am not the only one that strongly dislikes WLM!

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Robert Reed
D. Spencer Hines said:
An Honest Man...

Ditto here, can't stand it but have to use it to be compatible with XP and
Vista but still have a MS program for mail.
 
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...winston

Messages for Http accounts(hotmail.com, live.com, msn.com) are stored locally on your hard drive *and* on the Hotmail server. WLM
mirrors the folders on the web, messages remain in both locations until deleted.
Note: The Junk Mail folder and Sent Items folder do have some restrictions..Mail will deleted from both of those folder after a
period of time

Messages in Pop3 accounts are stored on your hard drive(folders are not synchronized).
 
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...winston

If you just installed WLM, no messages should reside unless you imported messages from a prior email client. If not placed in the
email account folders(WLM places them there).
 
J

Joan Archer

I like it and started to use it with XP earlier this year, I can have all my
accounts, newsgroups and RSS Feeds all in one place. When I got a new
machine with Vista the first thing I did was get WLM.
 
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James Ivey

I sure miss having the ability to Preview the message, and view the html
source (as we did in OE).

Does either WM or WLM have this feature?

James
 
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Tom Lake

James Ivey said:
I sure miss having the ability to Preview the message, and view the html source (as
we did in OE).

Does either WM or WLM have this feature?

In WLM you can right-click the message then choose Properties.
Click the Details tab then click the Message Source button.
Is this what you're looking for?

Tom Lake
 
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James Ivey

No.

In OE, while you are creating a new mail message, you can click View >
Source Edit and then at the bottom of the pane you get 3 tabs: Edit, Source
and Preview

Very handy.

James
 
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R. C. White

Hi, James.

I almost never SEND in HTML, so I can't help you there.

But for a message in the Reading Pane (formerly the Preview Pane), the old
<Ctrl>+<F3> trick from OE still works in both WM and WLM. For those
messages, that keystroke combination is a shortcut to File | Properties |
Details | Message Source. And <Alt>+<Enter> is a shortcut for the first two
of those clicks (File | Properties).

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
 
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James Ivey

Thanks again R. C.

Well, I hope MS will consider bringing back the Edit, Source, Preview tabs.
Its very handy to have access to the html code when creating a new message.
Handy, too, to be able to preview the message.

Perhaps WM has it. Won't know until I get my sparkling new laptop here in a
few days :blush:)

James
 
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R. C. White

Hi, James.

Wile waiting for MS to fix it, you can Save your composition to Drafts, then
use the <Ctrl>+<F3> method to see your Source before you Send. (I think you
can; as I said, I don't Send in HTML so I can't say for sure.) You can't
Edit in that window, but perhaps you can spot errors there, then reload your
draft into the Compose window to make your edits.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

R. C. White said:
Hi, James.

Wile waiting for MS to fix it, you can Save your composition to Drafts, then


Search the Windows Live Mail Drafts directory for the resulting
..eml file and open it in Notepad? <eg>

(E.g. taking advantage of the fact that internal representation
of messages is now accessible.)

For a while I did that with messages in the Outbox
because that's another thing that WLMail does differently
from OE. Then what I did was have open an Explorer
search window (e.g. using Search Companion) which
was looking for any changes to files on that day.
So typically the only file it would find was the one
I just put there. It worked quite well. ; )

use the <Ctrl>+<F3> method to see your Source before you Send. (I think you
can; as I said, I don't Send in HTML so I can't say for sure.) You can't
Edit in that window, but perhaps you can spot errors there, then reload your
draft into the Compose window to make your edits.


But then you are limited to creating whatever HTML
the WLMail Rich Text (HTML) editor offers.
OE's Source tab in its composition window
allows you to create HTML that can't be generated
otherwise--besides being useful for making changes
that would be too tedious to make using just the GUI
in the Edit tab.


FYI

Robert
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Gary VanderMolen

Robert Aldwinckle said:
Search the Windows Live Mail Drafts directory for the resulting
.eml file and open it in Notepad? <eg>

(E.g. taking advantage of the fact that internal representation
of messages is now accessible.)

For a while I did that with messages in the Outbox
because that's another thing that WLMail does differently
from OE. Then what I did was have open an Explorer
search window (e.g. using Search Companion) which
was looking for any changes to files on that day.
So typically the only file it would find was the one
I just put there. It worked quite well. ; )




But then you are limited to creating whatever HTML
the WLMail Rich Text (HTML) editor offers.
OE's Source tab in its composition window
allows you to create HTML that can't be generated
otherwise--besides being useful for making changes
that would be too tedious to make using just the GUI
in the Edit tab.

Anybody who has the time to modify the canned HTML code
generated by the email client -- needs to get a life. :)
 
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Chuck Tanner

I like WLM in all respects except the ease of creating a HTML signature
file. I know you have explained it to me but I still have problems. I
would like to see it as easy to create as it is in IncrediMail. Other than
that feature it does put all my communications in one place.
 
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...winston

Create a sig in a gif file. Save the file in the stationery folder.
Create an html file in Notepad or html editor, insert the proper code for the gif file's path, save the file in the stationery
folder.
Set WLM mail to create/reply in Html
Configure the signature to use the html file for the email account
 
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Chuck Tanner

Winston,

"Create a sig in a gif file. Save the file in the stationery folder. ---
Did
Create an html file in Notepad or html editor, insert the proper code for
the gif file's path, save the file in the stationery
folder. --- Saved with the path to the .gif file
Set WLM mail to create/reply in Html. --- Made settings for mail only
Configure the signature to use the html file for the email account" ---
Inserted the path to step #2

Below is what I get when I open a New email. I know I must be doing
something wrong. Any ideas.


C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\Stationery\WLM Sig File

Chuck
 
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...winston

The image source code for the gif sig file in an Htm file is slightly different than the path WLM uses when choosing a signature.

Here's an extremely simple example of an htm file(filename = Signature.htm) that points to a gif file. The gif file contains the
graphic. The Signature.htm file's code includes a mailto link.
When viewing the htm file(IE can be used to test it)will show the gif file and also when placing the cursor on the graphic, the
cursor activates the hyper link for sending mail to the mailto address. Clicking on the link will open the default email client's
new message window with the mailto address filled in.
---
<html><head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p align="left">
<a href="mailto:[email protected]">
<img src="file:///[pathname of gif file]" border="0">
<br>
</body>
</html>
---
Note the syntax on the line that starts with <img src=
If your gif file was named mysig.gif and stored in C:\My Signatures
Then the img src line above would read
<img src="file:///C:/My Signatures/mysig.gif" border="0">

In WLM , the path the file would point to would be:
C:\My Signatures\Signature.htm

Note the different syntax for each and how the slashes / or \ are used.

Good luck..you know now everything I know.
 

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