Why are Vista and IE 7 so incredibly wonderful?

G

Guest

My comments and previous post are sincere and genuine.

Considering the fact that Vista is the safest and most secure OS that has
ever been invented, can not imagine what produced several peculiar reactions
regarding my previous sincere comments, in respect toward Vista, learned the
hard way from many years experience.

The incredible inherent security provided by Vista’s BitLocker, EFS,
Defender, and IE 7 far exceeds any OS our World has ever known.

Regarding Firefox, just a few months back, the result of nightly builds and
open source code, Firefox was declared to be filled with so many security
breaches it would be impossible for using without collecting every Trojan and
virus that those weird folks invent invent and spread.

IE 7 is the most secure Browser that’s available for using and the Tabs
function perfectly as developed.

Kinda seems as if possibly some one is attempting to encourage others for
polluting IE 7 and Vista with third party applications that will accomplish
nothing other than enticing troubles for the innocent user.

Serious question, why would a person encourage others for polluting Vista
and IE 7 with third party applications known to do nothing other than create
havoc for the user?

How many copies of Vista will I purchase? as many as needed and/or necessary.

No, Microsoft did not give me a laptop.

What Microsoft has given me for many years, excellent reliable products, and
tech support if needed?

No, I do not represent Microsoft, other than proclaim and broadcast my
personal experience from using their products.

Yes, I’ve tried and abandoned Firefox and Mozilla and other operating
systems, including Inferno, merely because they were inferior to Microsoft’s
products.

My desire is for using the most superior computer products regardless of
expense. Hence, the sole reason why greatly I respect and with confidence use
Microsoft products, and have for many years.

Have you ever questioned why Sun burglarizes Microsoft’s entire line of
source code, then assigns their name to the end result counterfeit product?

If Microsoft was not such an exceptional product others would not be
raiding, and attempting copying Microsoft’s Source Codes.

The bottom line, I’m more than a very satisfied customer / user of
Microsoft’s products because of their superiority compared with other stuff
within the market place.

The conflicts that users experience while using Vista are user induced
secondary to -not- reading the Read Me Instruction Files and Vista's Help
Files. Seems we are too accustomed to being spoon fed by Microsoft instead of
reading the Install Instructions.

Advice learned the hard way; keep those third party applications far away
from Vista, especially all that Free Open Source Code stuff or indeed you
will experience troubles and problems !!
 
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Paul-B

FireWall2 said:
Regarding Firefox, just a few months back, the result of nightly
builds and open source code, Firefox was declared to be filled with
so many security breaches it would be impossible for using without
collecting every Trojan and virus that those weird folks invent
invent and spread.

Can you provide a source for this unvelievable statement?

I've used Firefox almost exclusively now for many years without
"collecting" a single piece of malware, and I'm a heavy user.
 
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michail iakovou yos

Re: Why are Vista and IE 7 so incredibly wonderful?

Because you are wrong.

Let me make a metaphor....

Vista seems to me like Superman returns (2006) . All nice effects, 3d
graphics and such...
But it cant beat the original Superman movie with Christopher Reeves (XP)
That movie was a masterpiece, and had soul and feeling. Good effects for the
time,
great effects for the time.. but it was not the effects that made the movie.

The 2006 superman could have been so much better like vista could.
Heck I could sit with the script writers and give more emotion and power to
the movie.
It was kinda blah.. and vista unfortunatly, is kinda blah....

I see we are living in an age of crisis. Microsoft has nothing to give
anymore to the world.
We need fresh inspiring ideas, technologies that will astound us and help us
do things
that were thought impossible in the past. To bring us to a higher level.
Vista cannot.
For me only directx10 is an interesting step.. and i dont even play games.
Its ok... we will use it.... it might be a little better than XP.....
but it is not the revolution it should have been after 5 years.

But ........ we dont live in a perfect world, do we?
 
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Paul-B

FireWall2 said:
The incredible inherent security provided by Vista’s BitLocker,
EFS, Defender, and IE 7 far exceeds any OS our World has ever known.

Regarding Firefox, just a few months back, the result of nightly
builds and open source code, Firefox was declared to be filled with
so many security breaches it would be impossible for using without
collecting every Trojan and virus that those weird folks invent
invent and spread.

IE 7 is the most secure Browser that’s available for using and the
Tabs function perfectly as developed.

Kinda seems as if possibly some one is attempting to encourage others
for polluting IE 7 and Vista with third party applications that will
accomplish nothing other than enticing troubles for the innocent
user.

Serious question, why would a person encourage others for polluting
Vista and IE 7 with third party applications known to do nothing
other than create havoc for the user?

OK, having had a look at this, you are talking out of the top of your
head (or maybe out of somewhere lower down).

Firstly, have a look here:

http://adblockplus.org/blog/firefox-security-the-real-picture

In essence it shows how Internet Explorer users have been exposed to
unpatched critical security flaws for 284 days in total, on 98 of those
days the security flaws were actively abused by web sites. In
comparison, there was only one vulnerability in Firefox that was
publicly disclosed before a patched Firefox release was available,
amounting to 9 days of exposure.

More information here:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/01/internet_explorer_uns
afe_for_2.html

One of the worrying things about this is, to quote the article:

"Criminals specializing in Internet fraud continued to ply much of
their trade with the aid of security flaws in the Microsoft browser
last year. In 2006, the company issued patches to fix a total of four
"zero-day" flaws in IE. Zero-day (or 0day) attacks are so named because
software vendors have no time to develop a fix for the flaws before
they are exploited by cyber crooks for financial or personal gain."

Here's a link to IE's security flaw overlaps:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/technology/daily/graphics/index2007
0104.html

So thanks, but no thanks. I'll carry-on using my far superior Firefox
browser while those who take any notice of your inane ramblings sit in
blissful ignorance while their bank accounts are drained and their
credit cards are cloned.
 
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Alias

FireWall2 said:
My comments and previous post are sincere and genuine.

Considering the fact that Vista is the safest and most secure OS that has
ever been invented, can not imagine what produced several peculiar reactions
regarding my previous sincere comments, in respect toward Vista, learned the
hard way from many years experience.

The kill switch is groovy too, right?
The incredible inherent security provided by Vista’s BitLocker, EFS,
Defender, and IE 7 far exceeds any OS our World has ever known.
LOL!

Regarding Firefox, just a few months back, the result of nightly builds and
open source code, Firefox was declared to be filled with so many security
breaches it would be impossible for using without collecting every Trojan and
virus that those weird folks invent invent and spread.

FUD. This is a blatant lie, hopefully, based on your ignorance.
IE 7 is the most secure Browser that’s available for using and the Tabs
function perfectly as developed.

LOL again! The IE newsgroup has hundreds of posts a day complaining
about how IE messed up their computers.
Kinda seems as if possibly some one is attempting to encourage others for
polluting IE 7 and Vista with third party applications that will accomplish
nothing other than enticing troubles for the innocent user.

Serious question, why would a person encourage others for polluting Vista
and IE 7 with third party applications known to do nothing other than create
havoc for the user?

How many copies of Vista will I purchase? as many as needed and/or necessary.

No, Microsoft did not give me a laptop.

What Microsoft has given me for many years, excellent reliable products, and
tech support if needed?

No, I do not represent Microsoft, other than proclaim and broadcast my
personal experience from using their products.

Yes, I’ve tried and abandoned Firefox and Mozilla and other operating
systems, including Inferno, merely because they were inferior to Microsoft’s
products.

My desire is for using the most superior computer products regardless of
expense. Hence, the sole reason why greatly I respect and with confidence use
Microsoft products, and have for many years.

Have you ever questioned why Sun burglarizes Microsoft’s entire line of
source code, then assigns their name to the end result counterfeit product?

If Microsoft was not such an exceptional product others would not be
raiding, and attempting copying Microsoft’s Source Codes.

The bottom line, I’m more than a very satisfied customer / user of
Microsoft’s products because of their superiority compared with other stuff
within the market place.

The conflicts that users experience while using Vista are user induced
secondary to -not- reading the Read Me Instruction Files and Vista's Help
Files. Seems we are too accustomed to being spoon fed by Microsoft instead of
reading the Install Instructions.

Advice learned the hard way; keep those third party applications far away
from Vista, especially all that Free Open Source Code stuff or indeed you
will experience troubles and problems !!

Bucking for an MVP award?

Alias
 
G

Guest

I'm sorry, did i mishear? Are you seriously suggesting that windows vista is
more secure than linux or mac os x? If you are, then i suggest you start
doing your homework.
 
A

Alexander Suhovey

Comments inline.

Alias said:
FUD. This is a blatant lie, hopefully, based on your ignorance.

OP's wording is too strong but I think I know where it came from. There was
a quite bit of noice on Firefox vs IE bugs several months ago that was
initiated by Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report:
http://www.symantec.com/specprog/th...et_security_threat_report_x_09_2006.en-us.pdf
See page 15 for comparison.
Bucking for an MVP award?

Now that's a FUD. That's not how you get MVP award, yu should know that. Did
you see any contributions/problem solving from the OP?
 
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Alias

Alexander said:
Comments inline.



OP's wording is too strong but I think I know where it came from. There
was a quite bit of noice on Firefox vs IE bugs several months ago that
was initiated by Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report:
http://www.symantec.com/specprog/th...et_security_threat_report_x_09_2006.en-us.pdf

See page 15 for comparison.

We all know this isn't true.
Bucking for an MVP award?

Now that's a FUD. That's not how you get MVP award, yu should know that.
Did you see any contributions/problem solving from the OP?

No, I saw a lot of lies and MS arse kissing. Isn't that they way one
"earns" an MVP award?

Alias
 
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Alexander Suhovey

No, I saw a lot of lies and MS arse kissing. Isn't that they way one
"earns" an MVP award?

You should know that what you are saying is not even funny, it's silly.
 
M

michail iakovou yos

You misunderstood, I was exdplaining to firefox_guru that firewall2 is a
troll seeking flamewars.

I am not an MS fanboi
 
J

John Barnes

And not setting your newsreader to block trolls is also silly. Who has time
in a newsgroup with this many posts to read and respond to trolls.
 
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Alias

michail said:
You misunderstood, I was exdplaining to firefox_guru that firewall2 is a
troll seeking flamewars.

I am not an MS fanboi

OK, sorry about that.

Alias
 
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philo

FireWall2 said:
My comments and previous post are sincere and genuine.

Considering the fact that Vista is the safest and most secure OS that has
ever been invented, can not imagine what produced several peculiar reactions
regarding my previous sincere comments, in respect toward Vista, learned the
hard way from many years experience.



<snip>

Is that you , Bill?




(Thought so.)
 
G

Guest

For those of you who think MS has just created a flop, I want you to try
something.

Go to your current OS and start moving data no less than 2 GB at a time
No try doing that 20 times at the same time, yes now you are moving 20
separate sets of info none of them is less than 2GBs.

Now open your e-mail

Open your internet browser and search for something but make sure you have a
least 3 tabs of searches going at he same time.

I am sorry if your OS died or slowed down to a halt after just 4 sets of
info moving.

I was able to do this with some old hardware, VNF3-250, AMD Athlon 2800 and
1 GB of RAM. My system is not over clocked and there are NO HIDDEN TWEAKS.

Try that on XP Home or PRO and see what happens. Look I know some of you
hard heads are going to say it is all about the hardware but if you
understand how software works you will also realize that the Hardware is only
as good as the software will allow it to be PERIOD.

P.S. I was able to accomplish this with the 32bit (AKA x86) Vista and the 64
bit Vista and you wonder why most of the OS’s you refer to are free, Hmmm

P.S.S. Hey have a great day
 
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Alfred Kaufmann

The incredible inherent security provided by Vista's BitLocker, EFS,
Defender, and IE 7 far exceeds any OS our World has ever known.

One BIG problem I have with IE7, it won't work properly with my bank and
they don't support beta products. I need to use Firefox to do my banking.

Ak
 

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