which is faster

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DDC

I have a p4c800e deluxe with a 3.2 ht Prescott and was looking at this combo
ASUS K8V-X ATHLON64 S754 K8T800 DDR AGP8X 5PCI SATA Sound 1000LAN
Motherboard

AMD Sempron 64BIT 3400+ Processor S754 Palermo 1.6GHZ 256K L2 Cache 90NM
SSE3 Retail Box
can use my kingston pc3200 ram and ati x800 256 agp and same case and power
supply 550watt thanks
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In term of speed you wont see any difference unless you use winxp 64
witch only work on 64bit cpu i guess.The semptron are cheap ass 64cpu
so becareful with that. i know that athon xp are compared to p4 so
with that the number talk by their self...
i know that socket 754 are to be ban because it less upgradable if i
where you i would wait a bit more and get a come with a a8n-e witch
can take a x2, a fx and a 64 cpu. that is a good choice when your on a
budget.

the s939 3200 64bit will shurly drop from 244$ to 200-210$ in a couple
of weeks so it better to wait and see. i've read that the revision e
of the venice core as the ss3 technologie so it's a +.
 
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Andre LaFramboise

I have a p4c800e deluxe with a 3.2 ht Prescott and was looking at this combo
ASUS K8V-X ATHLON64 S754 K8T800 DDR AGP8X 5PCI SATA Sound 1000LAN
Motherboard

AMD Sempron 64BIT 3400+ Processor S754 Palermo 1.6GHZ 256K L2 Cache 90NM
SSE3 Retail Box
can use my kingston pc3200 ram and ati x800 256 agp and same case and power
supply 550watt thanks
 
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Andre LaFramboise

so are you saying they are a bad choice.what would I get to go to an athlon
but use my existing hardware ,ram vid card agp case power supply which says
it supports both Intel and amd.I have always had Intel but would like to try
an amd that should run cooler so I can go with less fans which would mean
less noise.
 
M

Marko

For the moment stick with your Intel setup until dual core cpu's push down
the price of faster single core Athlon 64's as moving to a S754 setup is a
technological dead end and it will not be a noticable upgrade if it is an
upgrade at all. A Sempron 3400+ is going to be faster at some things but
slower at others than a 3.2 Prescott, In the next few months as dua lcore
becomes more desirable the prices of these cpus will drop making Chips like
the 3800+ A64 drop like a stone in price & you have plenty of choice for
cheap S939 motherboards these day making the argument forS754 value boards
moot.

Regards

Marko.


P.S. also dont write Intel off yor shopping list just yet either though as
they will have next gen chips out to push their single core offerings down
in price also.
 
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Paul

"Andre said:
I have a p4c800e deluxe with a 3.2 ht Prescott and was looking at this combo
ASUS K8V-X ATHLON64 S754 K8T800 DDR AGP8X 5PCI SATA Sound 1000LAN
Motherboard

AMD Sempron 64BIT 3400+ Processor S754 Palermo 1.6GHZ 256K L2 Cache 90NM
SSE3 Retail Box
can use my kingston pc3200 ram and ati x800 256 agp and same case and power
supply 550watt thanks
Click to expand...

This article can be used to compare S754 to S939. As near as I
can tell, the Sempron 3100+ is a S754 processor, and speedwise
it seems to be about 400 less of a processor than an Athlon64.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/531-5/testing-12-athlon-64s.html

The Sempron P.R. ratings are compared to a Celeron.

The Athlon P.R. ratings are compared to a P4.

Since the P4 is more powerful than the Celeron, due to the use
of more cache, it should be clear that a high P.R. value on
a Sempron is not worth as much as the Athlon64 P.R. value.

This site will give you a lot more benchmarking info to
play with. You should consider carefully what you use
your PC for, then concentrate on those benchmarks. Each
processor family has its strengths and weaknesses. If you
were gaming, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend an AMD
solution, but for most other comparisons/purposes you
really have to study these charts to see what is a better
solution.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html

For example, if you look at the "Farcry" benchmark, the
Athlon64 is putting a serious beating on the Pentium4
processors. Even a 2800+ Newcastle Athlon64 beats your
3.2E Pentium4. If all you did was gaming, that makes
the choice easy.

If you look at the "Mainconcept" encoder benchmark, your
3.2E is faster than an Athlon64 3500+. Same for Windows
Media Encoder. To consider the AMD platform, you need to
weigh how important performance is in each area, and then
decide what to buy.

When it comes to encoding, the software tools you use
make a difference. Some of the tools will be tuned for
the Pentium4, and it may be harder to find tools that
excel when run on Athlon64. The latest Athlon64 has
SSE3 instructions added to the instruction set, but not
all tools will recognize that the extension is there,
and may not use SSE when running on an Athlon64. This
is one area, where downloading a patch for your
encoding tool can do as much for you as buying a
processor upgrade.

Paul
 
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Andre LaFramboise

wow thanks I think you guys are rite I will stick with what I have and leave
all the fans .
 
J

J.Botelis

Save your money and don't do anything. You won't be able to tell the
difference. If you are tired of your current set up, buy a new case and
install your old stuff. Donate what you have spent to the Salvation Army
or Red Cross.
 
J

John Smith

I would tend to agree with the last comment
the 754 is a dead end.-- granted if you are not an upgrader it is no big
deal.,, but if you are you will regret it
I'd wait

As for niose and a quieter case. you know alot of people think they can get
away with a cheap case, and I was one of them untill I needed a case in a
pinch and had a chiose of spending $90 for a cheap one with power supply and
still needing a fan ( you can do a lot better but again I needed it quick)
and just happened upon an Antec Sonata on sale for another $15 ( so $105) .
I splurged and will now never go back. a good case is easy to work with,
quiet, and chances are has a good power supply that will take anything you
throw at it.
I was running dual athlon 2400's with a 4 disk raid and a dvd burner on a
Antec 380W no problem , infact it is still the most stable system I have
ever owned!!.
and it is fairly quiet. cheap cases rattle, and have air flow issues . a
good case doesn't . Also check out the sonata 2 it has an air duct for
getting more air to the cpu and still has the great silent 120 mm fan and
the juiced up the power supply to 450W. and cost about the same $105
nothing beats a good case, and once you buy one-- you will never regret
it --also you will probably never go back. my $.02
Peace
 
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