Where to: Questions About EDM and CSDL

[CharlesRCaplan]

We are about to start serious design on a new app here. I would like
to use the Entity Framework stuff that's new in Framework 3.5 and
since it's not even officially released yet, I'm sure to have some
questions. So my question is
"microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet" the best group to ask
questions about EDM and CSDL or is there a more appropriate place to
do so? Writing the schemas by hand doesn't look all that appealing but
it's still light-years better than writing a million SQL stored
procedures. Our userbase is relatively small but they want the app
ASAP, so I'm less worried about any potential loss of performance by
eliminating SQL stored procedures and more motivated by reduced
development time and lower maintenance requirements.

 

[Frans Bouma [C# MVP]]

We are about to start serious design on a new app here. I would like
to use the Entity Framework stuff that's new in Framework 3.5 and
since it's not even officially released yet, I'm sure to have some
questions. So my question is
"microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet" the best group to ask
questions about EDM and CSDL or is there a more appropriate place to
do so? Writing the schemas by hand doesn't look all that appealing but
it's still light-years better than writing a million SQL stored
procedures. Our userbase is relatively small but they want the app
ASAP, so I'm less worried about any potential loss of performance by
eliminating SQL stored procedures and more motivated by reduced
development time and lower maintenance requirements.

The entity framework isn't finished yet, so you're not allowed to
release a product written with it just yet. If you're looking for a
data-access solution, there are other roads leading to rome than the EF


The ef is discussed on microsoft forums: forums.microsoft.com

FB

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[CharlesRCaplan]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

The entity framework isn't finished yet, so you're not allowed to
release a product written with it just yet.

Well, I should qualify "ASAP." I work for <Insert Name of Large
Company Here> and ASAP is actually 4th quarter 2008. We also have some
sort of "Bleeding Edge" contract with Microsoft that means we will
have Framework 3.5 installed on all of our app servers by the end of
2nd quarter 2008.

Is the EF not part of the whole 3.5 Framework? I admit I'm just a
codemonkey and don't look up from my desk very often, so I don't know
the specifics.

If you're looking for a data-access solution,
there are other roads leading to rome than the EF

I'm open to suggestions, but I'm morally opposed to writing SQL stored
procedures. (Mainly because I have to write them and maintain them,
the DBAs won't do it. Which I think it's a smart move on their part,
but it leaves me holding the bag.) The EF seems like a really great
idea to me.

The ef is discussed on microsoft forums: forums.microsoft.com

I didn't see any forums that mentioned the EF there. I'll go digging
about though. Thanks.

 

[Frans Bouma [C# MVP]]

Well, I should qualify "ASAP." I work for <Insert Name of Large
Company Here> and ASAP is actually 4th quarter 2008. We also have some
sort of "Bleeding Edge" contract with Microsoft that means we will
have Framework 3.5 installed on all of our app servers by the end of
2nd quarter 2008.

Ok, that's indeed a different story

Is the EF not part of the whole 3.5 Framework? I admit I'm just a
codemonkey and don't look up from my desk very often, so I don't know
the specifics.

No, it's been cut from .net 3.5 some time ago.

I'm open to suggestions, but I'm morally opposed to writing SQL stored
procedures. (Mainly because I have to write them and maintain them,
the DBAs won't do it. Which I think it's a smart move on their part,
but it leaves me holding the bag.) The EF seems like a really great
idea to me.

You could check out other o/r mappers on .net. Some are very
mature and offer sometimes more features than the ef framework will.
See my signature for one example

I didn't see any forums that mentioned the EF there. I'll go digging
about though. Thanks.

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=533&SiteID=1

FB

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Lead developer of LLBLGen Pro, the productive O/R mapper for .NET
LLBLGen Pro website: http://www.llblgen.com
My .NET blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma
Microsoft MVP (C#)
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