Where does IE6 hold partially downloaded mpeg files in XP

K

Kane's son

In W98 when I used IE6 to download an mpeg before it was fully loaded and
placed in the download directory it used to hold the partially downloaded
file in the ~windows\TIF directory which allowed me to go copy this part
file during the download and play it and so see if it was the clip I
intended before I wasted time downloading the entire file. This seems not to
be the case with WinXP home (namely ~doc and settings\ user\ local settings\
TIF). Where does IE6 hold part downloaded mpeg files in XP prior to moving
them to the specified download directory when the download completes.
Thanks.
 
K

Kane's son

Burt said:
Kane,
In XP, when you are in IE, click Tools/Internet Options and then
click on the SETTINGS button, then click on the VIEW FILES button on
the resulting window and you will find them there... In XP, you can't
find them where you were looking... Supposedly a security deal.
HTH,
Click to expand...

Thanks Burt but 'View Files' just opens where I was looking. To access
partially downloaded files it is necessary to add \content.ie5 in explorer
to view the hidden files.
 
B

Burt

Kane,
I went thru this a long time ago with a thread on here that was a mile
long
and I got the same answer... XP seems won't let you into TIF/Content IE5 and
it's subfolders... You can get in, but nothing shows.. I never got the
resolve out
of the same problem you are talking about, but what I gave you is the best I
know
about it.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Burt The Old Alaskan
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Burt said:
Kane,
I went thru this a long time ago with a thread on here that was a mile long
and I got the same answer... XP seems won't let you into TIF/Content IE5 and
it's subfolders... You can get in, but nothing shows..
Click to expand...


Really? Alt-T,O,Alt-S,V opens an Explorer Window
with a special view of the TIF and Cookies.
Note that it is a _special view_ of *both* folders,
not a normal Explorer view of a directory.
I think that it relies on the the URLs which are saved
in those directories index.dat files to list the objects it does.

The view is a bit confusing because it lists the Cookies,
which are totally unrelated to the TIF, but it leaves the root folder name
of the TIF in the Address bar. The latter is handy because if you add
\Content.IE5\ to it (and perhaps wait a bit) you will find that
AutoComplete for Web Addresses will show you the actual contents
of the TIF subdirectory and you can drill down to the actual files using that.
You can see filenames that way which the TIF viewer won't show you.
Consequently files which were downloaded into the TIF
but which don't have URLs associated with them could be seen this way too.

Otherwise Windows Explorer will not expose the implementation
of the TIF. The more conventional way to see it is via a command
window, e.g. using dir/s etc. I still find it helpful to start off from the
TIF viewer though because I can copy the full pathname out of the
Address bar, switch to a command window and append it
(e.g. using right-click, Paste) onto this partial command: cd /d
(Note the trailing space after the /d switch. <g>)

However, if a file was non-cacheable or otherwise copyright
protected I'm not sure you would find it even that way.
I would use FileMon to see where writes were
happening to find out for sure where it might be found.


Robert Aldwinckle
---

I never got the resolve out
of the same problem you are talking about, but what I gave you is the best I know
about it.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Burt The Old Alaskan
Click to expand...
 
B

Burt

Robert,
WOW, thanks for the update on getting into those folders.. Sometime
around last February, we had a thread here a mile long as I said and there
were some sharp heads posting to it namely, Wes Vogel, David Candy, Kelly
and some others and nobody came up with this information.. Maybe back then
nobody knew? I am going to persue this and have a look... Very
interesting..
Thanks again and a Very Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday Season to ALL.
--
Burt
The Old Alaskan
MVP's listed on TECKPAGE
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog
http://www.cvinternet.net/~smokydog/teckpage.htm


Robert Aldwinckle said:
Burt said:
Kane,
I went thru this a long time ago with a thread on here that was a mile
long
and I got the same answer... XP seems won't let you into TIF/Content IE5
and
it's subfolders... You can get in, but nothing shows..
Click to expand...


Really? Alt-T,O,Alt-S,V opens an Explorer Window
with a special view of the TIF and Cookies.
Note that it is a _special view_ of *both* folders,
not a normal Explorer view of a directory.
I think that it relies on the the URLs which are saved
in those directories index.dat files to list the objects it does.

The view is a bit confusing because it lists the Cookies,
which are totally unrelated to the TIF, but it leaves the root folder
name
of the TIF in the Address bar. The latter is handy because if you add
\Content.IE5\ to it (and perhaps wait a bit) you will find that
AutoComplete for Web Addresses will show you the actual contents
of the TIF subdirectory and you can drill down to the actual files using
that.
You can see filenames that way which the TIF viewer won't show you.
Consequently files which were downloaded into the TIF
but which don't have URLs associated with them could be seen this way too.

Otherwise Windows Explorer will not expose the implementation
of the TIF. The more conventional way to see it is via a command
window, e.g. using dir/s etc. I still find it helpful to start off
from the
TIF viewer though because I can copy the full pathname out of the
Address bar, switch to a command window and append it
(e.g. using right-click, Paste) onto this partial command: cd /d
(Note the trailing space after the /d switch. <g>)

However, if a file was non-cacheable or otherwise copyright
protected I'm not sure you would find it even that way.
I would use FileMon to see where writes were
happening to find out for sure where it might be found.


Robert Aldwinckle
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R

Robert Aldwinckle

Kelly said:
Merry Christmas, Burt and good luck!

Robert,


This has never worked. More details needed, please.
Click to expand...


Are you kidding me? I have been using this (and posting about it)
for years. If it's not working it means that the desktop.ini file is
missing or its CLSID is broken. The desktop.ini file is hidden
and is one of the pieces of the implementation which AutoComplete
doesn't show (because AutoComplete only kicks in after you append
the complete string \Content.IE5\.) If you want to check that use
that cd /d <paste path> tip I mentioned and then use attrib *

In any case, the TIF infrastructure (the desktop.ini file,
the Content.IE5 subdirectory, its desktop.ini, index.dat
and incipient subdirectories) can be regenerated by deleting
the whole thing while IE and OE are closed and then restarting.
See Mike Burgess delcache FAQ.

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm


At one point in IE5 I think we also had to advise doing an IE Repair.
Perhaps that was needed to regenerate the CLSID values?
I'm not sure which .dlls would be involved in that case.
XPsp2 users could try using the new /rereg switch (ref. KB870700)
otherwise NT5 users could try the set of regsvr32 commands given
by KB831429. All other users should have setupwbv.dll
to do a full IE Repair with (ref KB194177).

If it really isn't working for you "more details please" to you. ;)
How much of what I have described is not working?


Oh. I just had another thought. Have you moved your TIF?
I have been documenting just the default location.
If it has been moved the location would be shown
when you use just the Alt-T,O,Alt-S sequence.
(Read it there beside the label "Current location:")
I used to use a moved TIF in NT4 (+WDU).
I won't claim that the AutoComplete feature will work in that case
because I can't remember it working then and I haven't moved
the TIF yet with XP. However, I won't be surprised if it does.
I am more certain that the Address bar will still be able to be
used to drill down to the TIF (wherever it is) and then copy
that pathname out of there to be used in a command window
as I described in my reply to Burt.

Use RegEdit to find HKCU\...\ShellFolders Cache value
as an alternative to drilling down to the TIF using the Address bar
in order to get a pastable path.


Good luck

Robert
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R

Robert Aldwinckle

....
....
What operating system are you running?
Click to expand...

I have used this feature with Windows 95 (+WDU),
Windows NT4 (+WDU) and XP Pro (currently on XPsp2).

repeat:


Try it. You'll like it... <eg>


Robert
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