What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista?

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Marco Desloovere

Leythos said:
Except that the masses of ignorant users are unable to learn enough to
keep that from happening - and then there are the exploits in
applications that get taken advantage of by new malware before the
exploit is public....

Unfortunately exactly these people put too much trust into their AV
software, giving them a false sense of security, i.e. by knowing that AV
software is installed on their PC, they think that they can do any risky
operation, believing that their AV software is there to protect them.
AV, while not perfect, is a must for any computer not in a secured,
locked down, environment.

By installing AV software, a PC becomes less secure, because it presents
a larger front for attackers to strike by the very fact of installing
yet another piece of useless, but attackable software *and* because AV
software can only detect *known* malware.

What use can there possibly be for AV software, if it cannot protect a
PC from the latest and polymorphic malware?
Do you really believe that attackers would be kind enough to only use
*known* malware for their attacks?

Marco
 
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Alias

Frank said:

Um, that was a question, not a statement. Do you know the difference?
Are you saying that games

More lies!

Um, that was a question, not a statement. Do you know the difference?
Maybe I wasted my money then because I don't see

And yet more lies. You don't have Vista you lying sack of crap!
Frank

Yes, I do, your bluster and frustration at that fact notwithstanding.
 
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Robert Moir

Hapkido said:
Robert,

Perhaps you are not familiar with the entire Kaspersky line? They also
have small business and corporate versions as well that can be deployed
over a server. The version I referred to is admittedly their "Home"
version. But all of the Kaspersky line is top notch.

I'm very familiar with their products, which is why I use something else in
the enterprise.

I'd be perfectly happy to see their products on a home or small business
machine however. Quite a lot of businesses just don't understand
"enterprise".
 
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NoStop

Doofy said:
THANX ALL BUT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN UBUNTU!! I ASKED FOR VISTA. I BOUGHT
VISTA. I AM HAPPY WITH VISTA. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ANT-VIRUS TO USE
ON VISTA.
Use any that fixes your stuck Caps Lock problem.

Cheers.
 
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NoStop

Bill said:
You want something like Symantec on your system? Symantec is a resource
hog, causing more problems than it's worth. Good luck.
Can't be any more a "resource hog" than Vista. The two seem made for one
another.

Cheers.
 
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Ed M.

Unfortunately exactly these people put too much trust into their AV
software, giving them a false sense of security, i.e. by knowing that AV
software is installed on their PC, they think that they can do any risky
operation, believing that their AV software is there to protect them.


By installing AV software, a PC becomes less secure, because it presents
a larger front for attackers to strike by the very fact of installing
yet another piece of useless, but attackable software *and* because AV
software can only detect *known* malware.

What use can there possibly be for AV software, if it cannot protect a
PC from the latest and polymorphic malware?
Do you really believe that attackers would be kind enough to only use
*known* malware for their attacks?

Marco

That is utterly ridiculous. Even AVG Free Edition is very good at
keeping virus definitions up to date. In some cases updating definitions
more than once a day and even on weekends. No virus protection is going to
be perfect, but not using ANY virus protection is foolish. There are a LOT
of older exploits out there in the wild and many more of those than zero day
exploits. AVG Free Edition has been upgraded to work just fine on Vista and
whatever you may think about anti-virus software it is much better than
nothing at all. There have not been a ton of Vista-specific exploits yet,
but believe me they will come. By saying that using AV software makes a PC
'LESS' secure is giving false information to folks that are not as saavy
about AV software as some of the more experienced users here. I place
spyware/malware in a different category than viri and use completely
different software to run for those types of exploits. Spybot Search and
Destroy and Add Aware are two free solutions that will take care of those
types of exploits, and if you use them both, they will find and delete most
tracking and other spyware/malware attacks. Keeping your PC free from all
exploits takes just a little bit of time and it is well spent.

Ed
 
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Mark R. Cusumano

NotMe said:
it depends on what YOU like.
I use AVG free from http://free.grisoft.com
Others swear by Avast free at http://www.avast.com

My vote goes here, put the poster is right the others are probably equally
good it's more of a matter of personal preference.
Others say Clamwin from www.clamwin.org
Then there are the ones that say Kapersky or NOD32 are better.
As long as you avoid Symantec or McAfee, you 'may' be OK.

I had a virus once that brought my Vista system to almost a screeching halt,
It was called McAfee ;-) Again I agree with the poster. Symantec and
McAfee have become too bloated to be useful anymore. Software companies
seem to think we want utility software that does everything instead of small
compact utilities that we can tailor to our needs.
 
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Marco Desloovere

Ed said:
That is utterly ridiculous.

Did you bother to think about the subject in depth?
Even AVG Free Edition is very good at
keeping virus definitions up to date. In some cases updating definitions
more than once a day and even on weekends.

And that is exactly the problem. Definitions are *always* behind the
threats. Sometimes it takes days or even months before a virus is
discovered.
No virus protection is going to
be perfect,

Yes, there is: Just avoid installing any malware at all. It's as simple
as that.
but not using ANY virus protection is foolish.

Really? Would you care to expand on that?
There are a LOT
of older exploits out there in the wild and many more of those than zero day
exploits.

Again: Just avoid installing any malware at all. It's as simple as that.
AVG Free Edition has been upgraded to work just fine on Vista and
whatever you may think about anti-virus software it is much better than
nothing at all.

Nonsense, AV software gives the PC user a *false* sense of protection
and security.
There have not been a ton of Vista-specific exploits yet,
but believe me they will come.

Are you by any chance using Internet Explorer?
By saying that using AV software makes a PC
'LESS' secure is giving false information to folks that are not as saavy
about AV software as some of the more experienced users here.

Did you bother to ask someone who is *really* (no self-proclaimed
expert) savvy about AV software?

By installing AV software on your computer, you are giving malicious
attackers another front, i.e. another weakness in your computer to
attack. Worst of all, AV software gives you a *false* sense of
protection and security.
Protection and security, which is nowhere near 100% efficient.
It only takes *one* single virus to compromise your PC.

On top of that, AV software eats up enormous amounts of computer
resources, all too often slowing the PC down and/or crashing it, and if
that wasn't enough annoyance already, many AV software packages cost a
lot of money.
I place
spyware/malware in a different category than viri and use completely
different software to run for those types of exploits. Spybot Search and
Destroy and Add Aware are two free solutions that will take care of those
types of exploits, and if you use them both, they will find and delete most
tracking and other spyware/malware attacks.

Remember, each additional installed software package presents one more
front to be attacked, one more weakness in your PC, one more element
that requires protection.
Ergo, AV software makes a PC less secure.
Keeping your PC free from all
exploits takes just a little bit of time and it is well spent.

Once again: Just avoid installing any malware. It's as simple as that.

Marco
 
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scaggy

can't we all get along !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Alias said:
I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU where
I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM Ultimate.
I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800 RAM and a
PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.


Charming.
 

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