What do you lose when you stop a script, why would the same page work better on another compuer?

[mm]

What do you lose when you stop a script, why would the same page work
better on another compuer with the same browser etc.?

I used to often get a message in Firefox that a script was running
endlessly and did I want to stop it, but since some update in Firefox,
don't know when, that's happened only once.

I always thought stopping a script left something undone, usually
soemthing important.

Is that true?

This last time it was at www.remichel.com when I clicked on Catalog
2010 - Digital Edition, below the first red line on the left. (there
is a different catalog link at the top)

It went to 67% and stopped. Twice. Each time with the box about
stopping the script**. One or both times the message box warned that
otherwise the script might stop the entire computer from running.
When I stopped the script, I got no catalog.

This was with XP SP3 Home on a computer with a fair amount of
software, 800 Mhz, and 1 gig memory

I went to the basement where there is XP Pro sp3 with comparitively
little added software, 2.4Mhz and 3 gig RAM and something about that
made it capable of loading the catalog. ??

What made it work better? Pro? 3Gig ram? faster CPU? Less other
software installed? Any ideas?

**I tried it just now with XP Home and got some sort of error message,
but nothing about scripts.

 

[Goobus]

Ask in the appropriate browser forum, such as firefox. Not anything to
do with Windows XP.

 

[dadiOH]

What do you lose when you stop a script, why would the same page work
better on another compuer with the same browser etc.?

I used to often get a message in Firefox that a script was running
endlessly and did I want to stop it, but since some update in Firefox,
don't know when, that's happened only once.

I always thought stopping a script left something undone, usually
soemthing important.

Is that true?

This last time it was at www.remichel.com when I clicked on Catalog
2010 - Digital Edition, below the first red line on the left. (there
is a different catalog link at the top)

It went to 67% and stopped. Twice. Each time with the box about
stopping the script**. One or both times the message box warned that
otherwise the script might stop the entire computer from running.
When I stopped the script, I got no catalog.

This was with XP SP3 Home on a computer with a fair amount of
software, 800 Mhz, and 1 gig memory

I went to the basement where there is XP Pro sp3 with comparitively
little added software, 2.4Mhz and 3 gig RAM and something about that
made it capable of loading the catalog. ??

What made it work better? Pro? 3Gig ram? faster CPU? Less other
software installed? Any ideas?

Wait longer
Change browsers
Update Flash

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[Paul]

What do you lose when you stop a script, why would the same page work
better on another compuer with the same browser etc.?

I used to often get a message in Firefox that a script was running
endlessly and did I want to stop it, but since some update in Firefox,
don't know when, that's happened only once.

I always thought stopping a script left something undone, usually
soemthing important.

Is that true?

This last time it was at www.remichel.com when I clicked on Catalog
2010 - Digital Edition, below the first red line on the left. (there
is a different catalog link at the top)

It went to 67% and stopped. Twice. Each time with the box about
stopping the script**. One or both times the message box warned that
otherwise the script might stop the entire computer from running.
When I stopped the script, I got no catalog.

This was with XP SP3 Home on a computer with a fair amount of
software, 800 Mhz, and 1 gig memory

I went to the basement where there is XP Pro sp3 with comparitively
little added software, 2.4Mhz and 3 gig RAM and something about that
made it capable of loading the catalog. ??

What made it work better? Pro? 3Gig ram? faster CPU? Less other
software installed? Any ideas?

**I tried it just now with XP Home and got some sort of error message,
but nothing about scripts.

That's an example of how not to present content on the web

They've taken a 1500 page catalog, converted it to Flash, put hyperlinks
in it. I tested in my single core laptop, and each page click in the
Flash document, takes multiple seconds before the CPU stops being pegged.
Task Manager says IE is using about 200MB of memory (which would work
OK with your 1GB machine). I expect most of that, is Adobe Flash, and
whatever caching algorithm they use.

In other words, you need a "mighty computer" to view the content. A
slow computer, could be pegged by the Adobe Flash code running, and
the browser may end up convinced the script is running away or
is in a loop. My machine was getting a bit sluggish on that page
(and that laptop is a low end model, so it's not of heroic proportion).

Digikey offers their catalog, using PDF. You can download individual
pages (so one page at a time). And then you don't have the overhead of
flash running and flash monitoring where your mouse is going. Digikey
also offers their catalog, as one huge download. Which is convenient
if you're searching for something. Digikey provides web pages (HTML)
that allow searching, so when you are offered a single page from
the catalog, it has some relevance to the search. At least that
approach, doesn't require a "mighty computer". If your computer can
run the Acrobat Reader, it can browse that catalog. And downloading
a single page doesn't take long. The whole catalog, that's another
story (it's a couple thousand pages).

I've run into the odd web page, which is "stupid by design". There
was one web site, with information on TV tuners. If you attempt
to print it, it uses all the memory on the computer, then it starts
chewing into the page file. A print of the "single, very long
web page", is about 200 pages of paper. If a person goes to enough trouble,
they can make web pages that will crush any computer. All it
takes is some thought (web designer, evil thought).

Paul

 

[Tim Meddick]

Apart from the issues of "computing power" raised by "Paul", you also ask ;
"why would the same page work better on another computer with the same
browser etc.?"

There are differences between different browsers, you no doubt aware, but
the main difference can be ; what version of HTML is the browser capable
of viewing?

This question also plagues different releases of the same browser.

So IE6 will be fine viewing web-pages written in HTML4 but may have
problems with pages written using the latest features of HTML5.

I used to really love IE6 and had kept it as my browser until some two
months ago, even though IE8 has now been out for two years and IE9 beta has
been released.

But I had to abandon my IE6 finally because it simply could not cope with
my Facebook pages, which do utilize the very latest techniques and features
of the newer HTML version 5.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

 

[mm]

Apart from the issues of "computing power" raised by "Paul", you also ask ;
"why would the same page work better on another computer with the same
browser etc.?"

There are differences between different browsers, you no doubt aware, but
the main difference can be ; what version of HTML is the browser capable
of viewing?

This question also plagues different releases of the same browser.

AFAIK I'm useing the same version of Firefox, the most recent,
v3.6.13. I let them update automatically and I've never interfered
with that, in either. I've compared the versions before, but when
I'm in the basement, I'll check again.

But you raise a good point.

So IE6 will be fine viewing web-pages written in HTML4 but may have
problems with pages written using the latest features of HTML5.

I used to really love IE6 and had kept it as my browser until some two
months ago, even though IE8 has now been out for two years and IE9 beta has
been released.

But I had to abandon my IE6 finally because it simply could not cope with
my Facebook pages, which do utilize the very latest techniques and features
of the newer HTML version 5.

Browser competence is one big reason I'm not in Win98 anymore.

 

[mm]

That's an example of how not to present content on the web

They've taken a 1500 page catalog, converted it to Flash, put hyperlinks
in it. I tested in my single core laptop, and each page click in the
Flash document, takes multiple seconds before the CPU stops being pegged.
Task Manager says IE is using about 200MB of memory (which would work
OK with your 1GB machine). I expect most of that, is Adobe Flash, and
whatever caching algorithm they use.

In other words, you need a "mighty computer" to view the content. A
slow computer, could be pegged by the Adobe Flash code running, and
the browser may end up convinced the script is running away or
is in a loop. My machine was getting a bit sluggish on that page
(and that laptop is a low end model, so it's not of heroic proportion).

Digikey offers their catalog, using PDF. You can download individual
pages (so one page at a time).

Mouser.com , electronics parts, used to be like that. BEfore that,
you had to dl the entire catalog, which during dial-up was really bad.
Even one page was bad during dial-up because I wasn't sure what page I
wanted.

And then you don't have the overhead of
flash running and flash monitoring where your mouse is going. Digikey
also offers their catalog, as one huge download. Which is convenient

IIRC there is another company in the heating and air conditioning
business that has a online catalog where it shows animation of the
pages turning. Maybe the officers talk to each other at conventions
or on the phone, or imitate each other. Maybe this one has a bigger
catalog so it doesn't work so well.

Now much of mouser is html but the spec page for individual things is
pdf iirc. And I have DSL.

if you're searching for something. Digikey provides web pages (HTML)
that allow searching, so when you are offered a single page from
the catalog, it has some relevance to the search. At least that
approach, doesn't require a "mighty computer". If your computer can
run the Acrobat Reader, it can browse that catalog. And downloading
a single page doesn't take long. The whole catalog, that's another
story (it's a couple thousand pages).

I've run into the odd web page, which is "stupid by design". There
was one web site, with information on TV tuners. If you attempt
to print it, it uses all the memory on the computer, then it starts
chewing into the page file. A print of the "single, very long
web page", is about 200 pages of paper. If a person goes to enough trouble,
they can make web pages that will crush any computer. All it
takes is some thought (web designer, evil thought).

Paul

Thanks, and thanks Tim and DadiOH.

BTW Daddioh, afaik Flash is fully updated. I thought that was
automatic and I never stop it from happening. I don't know where I
can see which version I'm using.

 

[Paul]

Thanks, and thanks Tim and DadiOH.

BTW Daddioh, afaik Flash is fully updated. I thought that was
automatic and I never stop it from happening. I don't know where I
can see which version I'm using.

Find a Flash test page.

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

"You have version 10,1,102,64 installed"

That's the level I'm at right now. I don't know if
that's the latest or not, because I don't use Flash
that much. (The plugin is removed, from my primary
browser )

Paul

 

[Tim Meddick]

To query the version of Flash currently on your system, you can also go to
your :

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MACROMED\Flash

....and :

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MACROMED\Shockwave *ver*

....folder, and the current version number normally forms part of the
filenames of some of the various component files within these folders.

Or can be garnered by right-clicking on any of the files in the two
respective folders [above] and on choosing "Properties" will see the
version-number displayed at the very top of the "Version" page (tab).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


P.S. Alternatively ; visit the following page in your appropriate browser
:
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

....which should tell you if Flash Player is installed correctly and tell
you it's version number.

 

[mm]

Find a Flash test page.

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

"You have version 10,1,102,64 installed"

Hey! "You have version 10,1,102,64 installed" So do I!

Thanks.

That's the level I'm at right now. I don't know if
that's the latest or not, because I don't use Flash

It is. See below.

that much. (The plugin is removed, from my primary
browser )

Windows Internet Explorer (and other browsers that support
Internet Explorer ActiveX controls & plug-ins) 10.1.102.64
Windows Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera (and other
plugin-based browsers) 10.1.102.64
Macintosh - OS X Firefox, Opera, Safari 10.1.102.64
Linux Mozilla, Firefox, SeaMonkey 10.1.102.65
Chrome Windows, Macintosh-OS X, Linux 10.1.103.19
Solaris Mozilla 10.1.102.64

 

[mm]

Thanks.

To query the version of Flash currently on your system, you can also go to
your :

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MACROMED\Flash

...and :

C:\WINDOWS\system32\MACROMED\Shockwave *ver*

...folder, and the current version number normally forms part of the
filenames of some of the various component files within these folders.

Or can be garnered by right-clicking on any of the files in the two
respective folders [above] and on choosing "Properties" will see the
version-number displayed at the very top of the "Version" page (tab).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


P.S. Alternatively ; visit the following page in your appropriate browser
:
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

...which should tell you if Flash Player is installed correctly and tell
you it's version number.

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:23:06 -0500, Paul

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Thanks, and thanks Tim and DadiOH.

BTW Daddioh, afaik Flash is fully updated. I thought that was
automatic and I never stop it from happening. I don't know where I
can see which version I'm using.

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