What antivirus? NOD32 didn't protect me.

[Jari Lehtonen]

Thanks guys. NOD32 were quite responsive to my queries and I submitted
copies of the infected files.
Today's latest update cleans the files which is good and I'm told that the
new heuristics will take care of similar attacks in 2 months time.

ESET is very good to promise things. They have also promised scan for
outgoing mail for ages now. So don't be too optimistic about those 2
months.

Jari

 

[Chris Berry]

ESET is very good to promise things. They have also promised scan for
outgoing mail for ages now. So don't be too optimistic about those 2
months.

Kiitos. So there's no really good software that covers the bases well.
my, my... How about a death penalty for writing a virus?
cb

 

[Melissa]

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ESET is very good to promise things. They have also promised scan
for outgoing mail for ages now. So don't be too optimistic about
those 2 months.

Hi Jari,

If it makes you feel any better, I think that specifically scanning
outgoing email is pretty useless; more of a gimmick than anything
else.

If an anti-virus program doesn't catch a virus, worm, or Trojan on
the way in, or when the user installs one of these while clicking
away, can we really expect it to catch the very same thing on its way
out?

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Melissa

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[Jari Lehtonen]

Kiitos. So there's no really good software that covers the bases well.
my, my... How about a death penalty for writing a virus?
cb

Surely there is, n o t h i n g can bypass Kaspersky. Take it, you will
not regret.

Jari

 

[Pop Rivet]

....

If it makes you feel any better, I think that specifically scanning
outgoing email is pretty useless; more of a gimmick than anything
else.

To the contrary, actually. It IS possible for malware to
assemble a hidden virus and send it out, albeit that's
pretty darened specific, but there are other ways for
malware to enter your machine other than via the 'net, and
be missed by your av, but get caught on the way out. There
are occasions where people think they have a virus
contained, in quarantine, but guess what? Quarantine is no
guarantee that the virus cannot replicate. Some AV sw only
quarantines, not deletes, of it quarantines and you have to
manually do the deletions, etc.. I have had the experience
of cleaning out a new virus that appeared in my outgoing
email, but was never detected. I never figured out where it
came from, but I think it came in prior to an update, sat, I
updated, and caught the outgoing. And then there are the
sleepers that fire off on a specific date, laying around in
undetectable pieces until that magic date, and you send them
out before you realize you have them. Never happened to me,
but: It's simple to check outgoing, uses zero noticeable
resources, stops nothing from working, and though admittedly
not often finding anything, it's worth it to have.
Recently when I changed AV software I used outgoing
scanning descrips as the final detail to make a choice
between some equally good programs.

Anyway, my ha'penny's worth.

If an anti-virus program doesn't catch a virus, worm, or Trojan on
the way in, or when the user installs one of these while clicking
away, can we really expect it to catch the very same thing on its way
out?

....

 

[Kleeb]

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Hi Kleeb,

I'm glad you like it! I've been using it for a few years now, and
I'm still learning about more things it can do for me. There's a
very helpful user mail list (also available as a Gmane news group,
but it makes sense to subscribe to the mail list so that you can test
various features as you learn about them). Here's the subscription
mailto if you're interested (TBUDL - "The Bat User Discussion List"):

<snip info>

Thanks for the very informative post Melissa.

Regards,

Kleeb.

 

[Bart Bailey]

At the end of the day go with what you want. All the main products are
good enough for 99.9% of computer users. People have favourites and
they will advertise and defund their favourite program until their
death

Strange that so many defenders of NOD feel the need to use anonymous
identity cloaking to do their endorsements, why is that?

 

[Morgan Pugh]

You are recommending AVG over NOD32?

I have used only the NOD32 trial and was not all that impressed with
it. I did a test in a virtual machine (Windows XP Pro SP1a using
VMware) and they performed pretty much the same. AVG was MUCH MUCH
faster at scanning than NOD32 was which is what decided it for me.

At the end of the day go with what you want. All the main products are
good enough for 99.9% of computer users. People have favourites and
they will advertise and defund their favourite program until their
death

 

[Tx2]

Strange that so many defenders of NOD feel the need to use anonymous
identity cloaking to do their endorsements, why is that?

Not an anonymous identity ... a way of avoiding crap email.

If you want to emai me directly, just remove the -invalid- part.
Simple. If you get it.

Oh, by the way, my first and last name begin with a T .... T times 2.
Get it?

Good ....

 

[Duane Arnold]

Strange that so many defenders of NOD feel the need to use anonymous
identity cloaking to do their endorsements, why is that?

I have no problem using NOD32.

Duane

 

[MachineMessiah]

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409

At a guess, stop using IE/OE. Seen this weeks latest malware? A nice
popup window which installs some malware that logs your online banking
session.

what if you don't use pop mail. I only use webmail or CS.com.
Are these popups on webpages or do they come via mail?
I refuse to have Outhouse Express on any of my 4 computers.

 

[MachineMessiah]

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:02:40 +0200, "Chris Berry"

Surely there is, n o t h i n g can bypass Kaspersky. Take it, you will
not regret.

Jari

Which version?

 

[MachineMessiah]

ESET is very good to promise things. They have also promised scan for
outgoing mail for ages now. So don't be too optimistic about those 2
months.

Jari

I sent them a couple of infected files and it took them more than a week
to update the definitions to detect them.

 

[Roy Coorne]

Which version?

Kaspersky 5.0 is definitely more comfortable than 4.5.

Roy