WGA notifications

[kurttrail]

Has anyone gone to Microsoft or Windows update and not been offered the
WGA notifications update?

I keep seeing in the press that is only going out to "random subset" of
computers, but I have yet to see a computer that it hasn't been offer
to.

Is MS lying again?

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[Bruce Chambers]

Has anyone gone to Microsoft or Windows update and not been offered the
WGA notifications update?

I keep seeing in the press that is only going out to "random subset" of
computers, but I have yet to see a computer that it hasn't been offer
to.

Is MS lying again?

If it's "the press" that's doing the reporting, why are you accusing
Microsoft of lying?


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[kurttrail]

If it's "the press" that's doing the reporting, why are you accusing
Microsoft of lying?

The press is quoting what MS spokespeople said Bruce.

And here is some interesting reading for you Bruce.

http://www.gripewiki.com/index.php/Microsoft_Windows_Genuine_Advantage_Validation_Tool

"Because this software is 'as is,' we may not provide support services
for it."

MS won't support software that nobody in their right minds would want on
their computer in the first place, and the only reason people have
installed it is because MS conned them into it by making it a critical
update!

This WGA spyware is going to far!

"The software feature described below connects to Microsoft or service
provider computer systems over the Internet. In some cases, you will not
receive a separate notice when they connect."

"We may use the computer information to improve our software and
services. We may also share it with others, such as hardware and
software vendors. They may use the information to improve how their
products run with Microsoft software."

MS really needs to be taught a lesson!

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[Bruce Chambers]

The press is quoting what MS spokespeople said Bruce.

And we all know that "the press" never, ever makes mistakes, nor do its
members ever have agendas and biases of their own. ;-}

Seriously, I've no use for WGA, either, but your blatantly obvious,
mindless, knee-jerk, hypocritical anti-Microsoft bias undermines the
credibility of any of your positions. *That* is the point I was trying
to make. Even if what you claim is true -- and I'm not debating or even
addressing that, you render yourself easy to dismiss by presenting
yourself as irrational on the subject of all things Microsoft.


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[kurttrail]

And we all know that "the press" never, ever makes mistakes, nor do
its members ever have agendas and biases of their own. ;-}

Seriously, I've no use for WGA, either, but your blatantly obvious,
mindless, knee-jerk, hypocritical anti-Microsoft bias undermines the
credibility of any of your positions.

Really? Everyone is biased in one way or another, but mine is not
"mindless," Bruce.

*That* is the point I was
trying to make.

"If it's "the press" that's doing the reporting, why are you accusing
Microsoft of lying?"

That was the total of your first reply, Bruce. And the premise of your
question was false, as I didn't accuse MS of lying over WGA Notification
Tool supposedly going out to "random subset" of computers. I was asking
for information, if anyone saw a computer that wasn't offered the WGA
Notification Tool, or "Is MS lying again?"

Questioning whether MS is lying isn't an accusation, Bruce.

So maybe you need to look at your own bias. I practice self-examination
all the time. Maybe its time you tried it too.

Even if what you claim is true -- and I'm not
debating or even addressing that, you render yourself easy to dismiss
by presenting yourself as irrational on the subject of all things
Microsoft.

LOL! "I'm not responding to the topic, only gonna talk about you!" So
your post should be pulled for being off-topic, as I'm not the topic of
this thread.

Please! Have you seen any computer that wasn't offered the WGA
Notification tool by Window or MS update? Yeah or Nay.

If you don't have any use for WGA, then add to this thread asking for
information, or can you not rise above your own bias?

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[Bruce Chambers]

Please! Have you seen any computer that wasn't offered the WGA
Notification tool by Window or MS update? Yeah or Nay.

Several, as a matter of fact. Some of them my personal machines, some
of them my employers. In fact, I've only seen 2 machines, out of
hundreds I support daily, offered WGA.



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[Robert Moir]

Has anyone gone to Microsoft or Windows update and not been offered
the WGA notifications update?

I keep seeing in the press that is only going out to "random subset"
of computers, but I have yet to see a computer that it hasn't been
offer to.

Is MS lying again?

I suppose its technically possible that a random subset of computer users
could include all computer users. The odds are about the same as those for
me winning the lottery and having all the hollywood starlets I've got a
crush on ring and ask me for a date (*before* I win the money, the odds for
the starlets nose-dive once you have the money)...

 

[kurttrail]

Several, as a matter of fact. Some of them my personal machines, some
of them my employers. In fact, I've only seen 2 machines, out of
hundreds I support daily, offered WGA.

Thank you for your reply. And by "offered WGA," I assume you mean the
recent WGA Notifications described in KB905474,
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905474?

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[kurttrail]

I suppose its technically possible that a random subset of computer
users could include all computer users. The odds are about the same
as those for me winning the lottery and having all the hollywood
starlets I've got a crush on ring and ask me for a date (*before* I
win the money, the odds for the starlets nose-dive once you have the
money)...

ROFL! If given the choice, I'd take the money. I like my women to be
low-maintenence!

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[Plato]

And we all know that "the press" never, ever makes mistakes, nor do its
members ever have agendas and biases of their own. ;-}

Grin. Ever listen to AM Radio. ie the conservative talk shows? Yeah they
get Donald Rumsfield to call in, and sometimes even other "presidential"
employees. Talk about an "agenda" to sell.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Bruce Chambers wrote:


Thank you for your reply. And by "offered WGA," I assume you mean the
recent WGA Notifications described in KB905474,
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905474?

Seems to be it, yes. To be honest, though, I didn't give the matter a
great deal of thought, at the time. What I actually ment that I'd seen
a couple computers offer WGA as a so-called "critical" update by Windows
Update, while other computers weren't offered the same update. After
seeing some of the new reports of false alarms, and knowing (from
personal experience) that the validation process is flawed, I think I'll
monitor the situation a bit more closely.


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[ANONYMOUS]

Seems to be it, yes. To be honest, though, I didn't give the matter a
great deal of thought, at the time. What I actually ment that I'd seen
a couple computers offer WGA as a so-called "critical" update by Windows
Update, while other computers weren't offered the same update. After
seeing some of the new reports of false alarms, and knowing (from
personal experience) that the validation process is flawed, I think I'll
monitor the situation a bit more closely.

The validation tool hasn't worked for me when users are logged in under
"limited" privileges. I guess the idea is that limited users are not
going to update the system so validation is of no use to them. However,
we have students who use our systems to download critical updates for
their personal computers which would otherwise remain unpatched because
they are on slow dial-up connections! I think MS should seriously look
into this problem.

 

[Winux P]

: Bruce Chambers wrote:
: >
: > And we all know that "the press" never, ever makes mistakes, nor
do its
: > members ever have agendas and biases of their own. ;-}
:
: Grin. Ever listen to AM Radio. ie the conservative talk shows? Yeah they
: get Donald Rumsfield to call in, and sometimes even other "presidential"
: employees. Talk about an "agenda" to sell.
:
: --
: http://www.bootdisk.com/

That's too scarey Plato and not to grin over, these people and their beauros
do set the agenda and they don't sell it, they merely make us believe they
passed it buy us, and we permitted them to implement it, hence the AM Radio
talk back shows. Violence in fascism = Propaganda in democracy.

Not just all Governments of the world practice this but just look at
Microsoft. Operation, "Total Operating System Control", they'll work on the
mind after that. Not before every new computer comes with a credit card
swipe slot and every visit to the MS website requires a swipe.

- Winux P

 

[MAP]

Has anyone gone to Microsoft or Windows update and not been offered
the WGA notifications update?

I keep seeing in the press that is only going out to "random subset"
of computers, but I have yet to see a computer that it hasn't been
offer to.

Is MS lying again?

Hi Kurt!
I haven't been to WUP in about a month (I'm waiting for them to pull
their head out)
but after reading your post I decieded to go there to answer it, I could not
continue until I installed the lastest and greatest WGA, I geuss I'll have
to go and download them myself (What a crock of feces)!

 

[mamamia]

Has anyone gone to Microsoft or Windows update and not been offered the
WGA notifications update?

I keep seeing in the press that is only going out to "random subset" of
computers, but I have yet to see a computer that it hasn't been offer
to.

Is MS lying again?

Any Windows XP machine I have run Windows Updates on in the last week
(over 100) has had the Windows Genuine Advantage Notification update
listed in the updates and I have had to deselect it for every machine.
Random subset my arse!