wanted: old Nikon LS-1000 film/slide scanner info *and* parts-useablein XP? make my own 'film carrie

D

dave

anybody here use the ol' Nikon LS-1000 film scanner under WinXP? (I
haven't tried, yet). just aquired mine - it's in "extra barebones with
unknown provenance" config. appears to power up 'LED lite' and
'mechanical sequences-wise' OK...

since I'm essentialy 'starting from zero', softwares and drivers-wise
(with a 'near zero' budget to match), and i wanna install Linux
*anyway*, might I be able to aquire 'more readily' Linux-specific
drivers and/or TWAIN stuff for this device, or whatever else I need to
drive and run the scanner? (I already have an ol' adaptec SCSI card)

any software (or drivers) I use to 'run' this baby are gonna need to be
downloaded off the net; specific recommendations most appreciated (I've
used irfanview in XP frequently, thinking of trying GIMP). really *most*
concerned with getting the images OFF the scanner ONTO my drive, though :)

and yeah, by crackey, if anybody has one of these scanners 'sitting
around busted, incomplete, partially crushed, or inoperable', I could
sure use a film carrier (called FH-2 by nikon) and maybe paper
manuals....and maybe a front faceplate, with or without the little tiny
lower left front 'bulk slide port' door....

knowledge search: anybody know (with certainty) if the FH-2 35mm
"filmstrip carrier" -itself- moves when the scanner is scanning
filmstrips? or does the film (and its carrier 'wrapper') simply stay
stationary within the scanner while the 'scanner head' moves past the
emulsion/images?

thanks much for info :)

super-tightwad the ol' toolie_guy
 
A

Andrew Koenig

anybody here use the ol' Nikon LS-1000 film scanner under WinXP? (I
haven't tried, yet). just aquired mine - it's in "extra barebones with
unknown provenance" config. appears to power up 'LED lite' and 'mechanical
sequences-wise' OK...

I believe it's doable. Visit nikontechusa.com and look for the page about
the LS-1000.

You probably need to install Nikon Scan version 3, along with whatever SCSI
drivers you may need.
 
D

dave

Andrew said:
I believe it's doable. Visit nikontechusa.com and look for the page about
the LS-1000.

You probably need to install Nikon Scan version 3, along with whatever SCSI
drivers you may need.
I looked a little at nikons (seemingly endless number of) sites
worldwide this AM. read them pretty extensively. per my recollection,
the LS-1000 FAQ site makes no mention of that version 3 software, but
the LS-2000 FAQ site does, and does suggest (like you do) that it BE
used with XP. but wether or not the scanners (in particular my ol'
klunker LS-1000) can 'appreciate' (or more accurately 'run on') that
newer version of "nikon scan" remains shrouded in mist...

I'm kinda trying to find out "what's doable or what's not" before I bust
my cranium trying to install some ol' SCSI card...and -its- drivers...

thank you andrew :)
 
D

dave

Andrew said:
Visit nikontechusa.com and look for the page about
the LS-1000....

hi again, gang,

this page at nikon:

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...p_prods=25,29&p_pv=2.29&p_cats=185&p_cv=1.185

says, at bottom, in links, that nikon scan version 1.6.3 is for WINDOWS,
*or*, seemingly, for mac...

clicking the 163 link for windows brings you to this

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...F9jdj0xLjE4NSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

page, also claiming to be version 163 for windows...but BOTTOM of page
now has "new set of links" showing version 163 is for Mac, but *another*
version, 414, is for windows....

clicking the 414 link brings ya to a download page, unbelievably enough,
for 414

jeesh...

interestingly enough, the nikon LS-2000 scanner site (admittedly -not-
my model, but I'm guessing 'similar, based on, umm, "looks" -
scientific, ay?) page, here:

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi..._new_search=1&p_search_type=answers.search_nl

now seems to recommend a version 251 for windows users...so, do nikon
scan version numbers get LOWER as the software =improves= over time? or
is the nikon site disorganized?

....mist-shrouded business, this...
 
A

Andrew Koenig

this page at nikon:

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bi...p_prods=25,29&p_pv=2.29&p_cats=185&p_cv=1.185

says, at bottom, in links, that nikon scan version 1.6.3 is for WINDOWS,
*or*, seemingly, for mac...

I believe that you need Nikon Scan version 3.x if you want to use it with
Windows XP.
Please look at the date associated with that link.

Incidentally, I would be very surprised if you could not use your LS-1000
with Vuescan (which you can purchase from www.hamrick.com and test for free
before you buy)
 
K

Kennedy McEwen

dave said:
clicking the 163 link for windows brings you to this

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin/nikonusa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.ph
p?p_faqid=203&p_created=1029938823&p_sid=P_g8hoIh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPS
ZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD00JnBfcHJvZHM9MjUsMjkmcF9jYX
RzPTE4NSZwX3B2PTIuMjkmcF9jdj0xLjE4NSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

page, also claiming to be version 163 for windows...but BOTTOM of page
now has "new set of links" showing version 163 is for Mac, but
*another* version, 414, is for windows....
No, thatt is "additional information": answers which are related to your
query and *may* be relevant.

If you click on "Agree to License and Start Download" on the page you
referenced then it will download Nikonscan 1.63 for Windows in file
NS163win.zip. This is the latest version of Nikonscan which supported
the LS-1000.

Unfortunately, according to Nikon, NS1.63 is *NOT* compatible with XP
and since they have a separate mnemonic for untested, I guess that "NO"
means it has been tested and does not work. But, it seems to work with
everything up to NT4, then becomes dodgy at W2K due to "Adaptec ASPI
support", finally becoming incompatible with XP. Given the cause of the
partial W2K support, it might be worth trying to get the XP ASPI layer
from Adaptec and giving it a whirl.
 
S

Sander Vesik

In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Kennedy McEwen said:
Unfortunately, according to Nikon, NS1.63 is *NOT* compatible with XP
and since they have a separate mnemonic for untested, I guess that "NO"
means it has been tested and does not work. But, it seems to work with
everything up to NT4, then becomes dodgy at W2K due to "Adaptec ASPI
support", finally becoming incompatible with XP. Given the cause of the
partial W2K support, it might be worth trying to get the XP ASPI layer
from Adaptec and giving it a whirl.

I have used the NS1.63 with XP to scan from Nikon Coolscan II (aka LS20).
You need to specially get ASPI from Adaptec but otherwise there were no
problems.
 
D

dave

CSM1 said:
You also will need ASPI from Adaptec. Windows XP does not have a SCSI ASPI
layer.
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.jsp?sess=...

ok, thanks for that info, looked at related sites, and will do :)
=================


andrew K said:
I believe that you need Nikon Scan version 3.x if you want to use it with
Windows XP.
Please look at the date associated with that link.
Incidentally, I would be very surprised if you could not use your LS-1000
with Vuescan (which you can purchase from www.hamrick.com and test for free
before you buy)

mm, yeah....thanks for that info too andrew - I just checked those guys
out-
apparently watermarks are "auto-stamped' on all outputs from their trail
version...
I "could" edit them out with irfanview, at the pixel level, but that
uhh, seems
impractical... :-/

on a sidenote, anybody ever use "silverscan"? I see it mentioned places
as a
sort of 'alternate' (or possibly better) 'scanner driver' or something...

==============
kennedy told me:
No, that is "additional information": answers which are related to your
query and *may* be relevant.

If you click on "Agree to License and Start Download" on the page you
referenced then it will download Nikonscan 1.63 for Windows in file
NS163win.zip. This is the latest version of Nikonscan which supported
the LS-1000.

Unfortunately, according to Nikon, NS1.63 is *NOT* compatible with XP
and since they have a separate mnemonic for untested, I guess that "NO"
means it has been tested and does not work. But, it seems to work with
everything up to NT4, then becomes dodgy at W2K due to "Adaptec ASPI
support", finally becoming incompatible with XP. Given the cause of the
partial W2K support, it might be worth trying to get the XP ASPI layer
from Adaptec and giving it a whirl.

WOOPS! guess I better look a little bit closer in there <grimace>...

=================

sander told me
I have used the NS1.63 with XP to scan from Nikon Coolscan II (aka LS20).
You need to specially get ASPI from Adaptec but otherwise there were no
problems.

thanks sander :). like to hear that "for sure" :)
=========
and thanks again to all you guys for educating me :)
 
A

Andrew Koenig

mm, yeah....thanks for that info too andrew - I just checked those guys
out-
apparently watermarks are "auto-stamped' on all outputs from their trail
version...
I "could" edit them out with irfanview, at the pixel level, but that uhh,
seems
impractical... :-/

Right -- that's how they get you to pay for it.

The point is that you get a full-functionality version with the watermarks
for free, which lets you see whether it will do what you want before paying
for it. Then you pay for it and they give you a serial number that will
remove the watermarks.
 
G

Gian Carlo

dave said:
anybody here use the ol' Nikon LS-1000 film scanner under WinXP? (I
haven't tried, yet). just aquired mine - it's in "extra barebones with
unknown provenance" config. appears to power up 'LED lite' and 'mechanical
sequences-wise' OK...

I dave, I use Nikon LS1000 with slide feeder SF-100 under WIN-XP
You need a SCSI-CARD (I have an old Adaptec 2940). WIN XP will recognize it.
After that you have to download the ASPI driver from Adaptec. I use V4.71a2.
The work fine
After that you install the SW from Nikon or from third pary. I tried the
original one from Nikon (Nikon Control V2.2)
and SilverFast. This last one is very good but also a little bit difficult
to use.

For linux forget to find some good driver! the are in alpha ...

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-NIKON


Best regards


Gian Carlo
 

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