Wanna install software easily?

[MICHAEL]

Just turn that dam annoying UAC off.

If you know where the software came from and trust the provider-
install the programs you want and then turn UAC back on.

I could not get Office 2003 to install, it was driving me crazy.
Yes, I tried run as administrator. Finally, I just turned UAC off,
and it installed without a hitch- works great on Vista. Here's
what I'm thinking- when you click to run the install or setup on
some of these programs, that just starts an extraction process
and then the actual setup is run after that. I think UAC is blocking
some software and doing so without giving you a prompt. Or,
the "blocking" disrupts the install in some way, causing it to fail.

Just my opinion. What do you guys think?


-Michael

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi Michael,

UAC, by design, blocks any attempt at installation until the user approves
it. If you know you are installing, running setup as administrator should be
sufficient (has been for everything I tried installing, including Office
2003). UAC's biggest assett is blocking sureptitious installers, allowing
the end user to block unwanted "drive by" installers at web sites and in
emails. Disabling it is like opening the barn door. Closing it later is
about of the same usefulness. It may be a tad bit annoying, but so is
spending an afternoon removing unwanted spyware and viruses.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[MICHAEL]

Thanks, Rick. I completely understand the benefits
of UAC. For some reason, Office 2003 just would
not install with UAC turned. Perhaps, it was coincidence
that it installed after turning off UAC. I had made
numerous attempts at installing Office.

For what it's worth, I have been working with UAC on,
and believe once you get your computer setup, personalized,
and the programs you want- UAC is not so bad.

However, I do believe unless UAC is tweaked some more
and a few of the prompts eliminated- a lot of users will just
simply turn it off permanently.


-Michael

 

[Lars]

Michael,

Just turn that dam annoying UAC off.

How do we turn it off ? Thanks,

 

[Beck]

Just turn that dam annoying UAC off.

If you know where the software came from and trust the provider-
install the programs you want and then turn UAC back on.
I could not get Office 2003 to install, it was driving me crazy.
Yes, I tried run as administrator. Finally, I just turned UAC off,
and it installed without a hitch- works great on Vista. Here's
what I'm thinking- when you click to run the install or setup on
some of these programs, that just starts an extraction process
and then the actual setup is run after that. I think UAC is blocking
some software and doing so without giving you a prompt. Or,
the "blocking" disrupts the install in some way, causing it to fail.

Just my opinion. What do you guys think?

I like the UAC. Its a pain in the backside but it gives that extra level of
protection for my system - until it is hacked that is.
I will not switch mine off as it is there for a good purpose. Don't forget
we are new to Vista and probably constantly installing programs to see if
they work or whatever. Once things settle down you won't be installing
things every day or doing things that require permission every day, so you
will be prompted less and less as time goes on.
Personally I think you should keep it. Its good to know if there are bugs
in it - like your Office not installing, submit a bug report and continue.
Turn it off for that install and switch it on again after. There is no
point in MS giving people added security if people are not going to use it.

 

[BChat]

I made the following post and when it didn't show up I checked to find out
why -I had replied to MICHAEL instead of the group - my apologies Michael.
I am going to go to my room now and eat nothing but liver and lima beans for
a week (((((((
BChat


I installed Office 2003 Professional w/o any problems - BUT - I agree 100%
about the UAC needing some tweaking. I understand the need for security and
agree with it. It seems to me they have ''taken it to the max'' and are
annoying a lot of people. Somewhere between ''everything'' and ''nothing''
should be a ''this-is-nice-level-thing".

I have used WinXP Home SP2 for years - no problems. I practice "safe
computing". And if I fail to do my part - sucks to be and I deserve whatever
wrath the Gods of You-Screwed-Up blast down upon me.

All in all, my 1st beta "OS-ing" has been educational and fun filled. I have
said before, and will repeat here, IF I ever get my hands on the guy/gal
that decided to take away my ability to turn off the ''logon'' sound, I am
going to show them some of the cool things I learned in ''prison-guard"
school - lots of fun for me - not so much fun for them.



----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:29 AM
Subject: Wanna install software easily?

 

[Will Schuitman]

UAC is something I'd never turn off permanently
however for installing trusted software meaning software I have installed
before and know exactly what to expect, I do turn off UAC and turn it back
on after I have installed the software.
And I really like UAC once the pc is setup and running well, you don't even
know it's there

The only thing I would suggest as a change would be to add a feature such as
"install as administrator"and put it in as an override of UAC as opposed to
"run as administrator" which doesn't override UAC that would make life a lot
easier for people who frequently install software.
And have the added feature of "install as administrator" only available when
logged on as administrator.

Just an idea but I believe a lot of people would agree that it's worth
considdering

 

[MICHAEL]

Beck, I am not anti-UAC. See my other post
in this thread.

Oh, just give UAC some time- it will get on your nerves,
it will wear you down. ;-)


-Michael

 

[Beck]

Thanks, Rick. I completely understand the benefits
of UAC. For some reason, Office 2003 just would
not install with UAC turned. Perhaps, it was coincidence
that it installed after turning off UAC. I had made numerous attempts at
installing Office.

For what it's worth, I have been working with UAC on,
and believe once you get your computer setup, personalized,
and the programs you want- UAC is not so bad.

However, I do believe unless UAC is tweaked some more
and a few of the prompts eliminated- a lot of users will just
simply turn it off permanently.

Maybe they could have UAC so it can be customised so certain things prompt
and others don't. Have the default configuration for new users and a
customisable one for advanced users.

 

[Will Schuitman]

Yes that does sound sensible

Maybe they could have UAC so it can be customised so certain things prompt
and others don't. Have the default configuration for new users and a
customisable one for advanced users.

 

[dotcom]

Type "msconfig" in the start button search bar and then click on it.
Click on the "Tools" tab.
Scroll down to "Disable UAC" and click on Launch.
You will then see a confirmation.
dotcom

 

[dotcom]

I might add that turning it off is probably not a good idea.
In a pinch though, that is a quick way to turn it off and back on.
The more I am learning about UAC the more I understand its necessity
although I must add it is a bit annoying.
dotcom

 

[Chad Harris]

You're Michael. You're smart but you have a vulnerability. You luvs da
Panthers so you readin' all them drunk/frealedpit NC sports writers and
everything from the Ahoskie Gazette to the Yadkin Ripple be done tellin' ya
that the Panthers is gonna win da Division and da Panthers is gonna be in da
playoffs and da Panthers is gonna be in da Super Duper Bowl.

Ole Keyshawn (the pride of da Cowboys) ain't able to key on notin' and he
very quiet. They done shut his flamboyant butt down. Da only thing he be
receivin' is his bills.

And then one Sunday the rubber hits da road. All dem Pantherettes and
Pantherhomeboys comes to ole Bank of America stadium and it get emptied
faster than a piggie bank when the ice cream man get on da street.

Bank of America Stadium gets robbed and bankrupt on openin' day.

http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/CarolinaPanthers/aerial.jpg

and tale gate and settle in. Does they have laryngitis? Cause dey ain't
makin' da noise.

No they have Vickitis and Crumpleritis and Dunnitis. They done been done
in.

And then it hits ya.

The Panthers has been shutdown and put in da cage. Da Falcons flew 'em in
and won't let the Panther move. They done paralyzed the Panther and painted
it pinker than Steve Martin, Blake Edwards, Peter Sellers and David Nivin
ever did:

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thepinkpanther/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057413/

Don't believe what all them people tells ya in Creative Loafing, the
Charlotte Post, Chapel Hill News and the Charlotte Observer. Cause when
Game Day comed da Falcons done manhandled da Panthers.

They so shut their candy butts down. : >)

CH

 

[MICHAEL]

That wasn't nice, Chad. :-/

It's all good, three straight years we've lost the season
opener. Out of those three years, a trip to the SuperBowl
(perhaps, one of the greatest ever played), barely missing
the playoffs the next, and back to the NFC championship game
last year.

I reckon Michael Vick was pissed- we beat them twice last year-
knocking them out of the playoff race in the second meeting and
literally destroying them. Oh, our best player (league leader last year)
receiver Steve Smith, did not play.

But, it was an ugly game. Life goes on.


-Michael

 

[Chad Harris]

Michael--

1) If you watched that game and thought it was Steve Smith back in the
equation and Panthers dominate or win, I've got some Kudzu to sell you at
Midtown Manhatten prices.

2) "An energized Atlanta team came into town and stole a 20-6 win from the
Panthers." From the Panthers' site,--stole? I'd say they shut them down.

3) Fortunately Steve Smith will recover from his hamstring injury. Falcons
DE Steve Kerney was out most of the game.

4) Panthers were shut down passing and running. They should have chartered
Jet Blue.

5) Panthers gave up (it was not stolen) 252 rushing yards and Falcons had
203 rushing yards in first 3 quarters. Falcons had possession 36/23 min,
averaged 5.4 rushing and sacked Jake Delhomme 4 times, and were in his face
the whole game. Watch the replay on the websites.

The next time they play, it will be in Atlanta 12/24 and I'm betting it will
be a key game for both teams.

CH

 

[Jeff]

Umm
Jumpin in;
Speaking of big cats, my team lost;AGAIN-Lions
Jeff

 

[MICHAEL]

Lawd have mercy. I didn't say anything about the game
being "stolen" or Atlanta getting lucky. What part of
"But, it was an ugly game." don't you understand? It
wasn't ugly for Atlanta, but it sure was for Carolina.

Life goes on.

Are you ever not acting like some ludicrous popinjay?

-Michael

P.S.

I don't need any Kudzu- got plenty around these parts.
Did you pull the Kudzu out from between your ears or
your arse? Not sure if that makes a difference for you. ;-)

 

[Chad Harris]

I took the stolen quote from the NFL Panthers' site. I understand every
part of any team on any given Sunday can have any type of game. I hope both
Mannings have a good game and get plenty of protection.

It's so rare to see two brothers make it to starting quaterback considering
the odds of just one of them doing it.

I'm always acting like a ludicrous popinjay--boy did you hit the nail on the
head. I don't know what was showcased there better, your writing ability or
your insight. How ridiculous of me to expect the softies to have fixed
Device Manager after 12 years so that it's anywhere near clear, confident,
and Connnected.

Your command of anatomy is impressive. Of course there is no diff.

CH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Peyton does great commercials. I'll bet he goes on to a Hollywood career.

 

[MICHAEL]

You made me laugh, Chad. Thanks.

The Mannings meeting to play against one another
is good stuff.

Take care,

Michael