Viewing Hidden files and folders

R

R. C. White

Hi, Bob.

Dir /s shows subfolders - all the way down - so you get all files and
folders in the entire tree.

Dir c:\ /s/a is a command that I use often to see ALL files, no matter where
they are and no matter what attributes may be set. The c:\ (or other drive
letter) starts at the Root of the drive, /s shows the whole tree and /a show
all the files. Dir C:\ help*.* /s/a will show every file that starts with
"help", no matter the extension, location, attributes or anything else.
That's my "brute force" command when all else fails to find a file that I
KNOW is there...somewhere.

In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us), so he
can cd to that folder and save some time. If that doesn't work, he can
start in "\", the Root, and search the whole volume. He may have time for a
cup of coffee - or even lunch, if it's a big drive with lots of files.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Bob said:
Dir /s shows the whole nine yards.

R. C. White said:
Hi, Paul.

Now, what do you see with a simple Dir? How about Dir /a?

When I opened an Administrator:Command Prompt window and tried your
attrib -h *.* (I had to add a space after the -h, as Bob instructed.) in
my C:\Windows\System32 folder I got hundreds of lines of "Access
denied..." because I was (unintentionally) telling Vista to remove the
Hidden attribute from all those system files.

So I switched to C:\ and tried it again. This time, I got just two
lines:
C:\>attrib -h *.*
Not resetting system file - C:\hiberfil.sys
Not resetting system file - C:\pagefile.sys

That's because Vista was refusing to reset the Hidden attribute for those
two system files. But now there are no hidden files on C:\ and I can see
all files and folders in C:\ by using the simple Dir command.

But if I use Dir /a, the /a shows me not just files and folders, but
Junctions, too - AND those two .sys files from which Attrib wouldn't
clear the Hidden attribute. Dir shows 1 File and 12 Directories; Dir /a
shows 3 files and 16 Directories, including the Recycle Bin and System
Volume Information, which don't show with the simple Dir - even after the
Hidden attribute is removed from *.*.

So, in an Administrator:Command Prompt window, cd to the folder that
holds your hidden files. Enter Dir /a. What do you see?

RC

PAS said:
Hello R. C. White,

I have just rebooted my computer, I have the Administrator Command
Prompt on
my screen, at this point before when I typed attrib -h*.* the screen
just
flashed, I now have text within the black screen.

There are nine lines of text all starting, Not resetting system file....

Paul

:

Hi, Paul.

tried the below,

You tried WHAT below?

At what point does:
a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long enough

Step by step, HOW to you open the Administrator:Command Prompt. I do
this
often and it never just "flashes". The window stays open until I
dismiss
it. And any command I run in this window "runs elevated".

In an earlier post you said:
Yes I am logged on as Administrator,

Just to be clear: Start | All Programs | Accessories, right-click on
Command Prompt, then Run as Administrator. You'll need to furnish
Administrator credentials to get past here.

Even if you are already running as AN administrator, this is what you
need
to do to open the Administrator:Command Prompt as THE Administrator.
In
Vista, there really are two levels of administrator; only THIS one is
GOD.

You shouldn't really need THE Administrator credentials to run the
Attrib
command, but there may be some restrictions that you might not know
about or
might have forgotten about. But the window should stay open as long as
you
want, plenty of time to see whatever you need to see.

RC

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
P

PAS

Hi R. C. White and Bob,

Sorry I have taken some time in getting back to you had a few problems at
work that needed sorting out.

Yes I can see all the hidden files and folders and with the command Dir /s I
have a screen full,

Paul

R. C. White said:
Hi, Bob.

Dir /s shows subfolders - all the way down - so you get all files and
folders in the entire tree.

Dir c:\ /s/a is a command that I use often to see ALL files, no matter where
they are and no matter what attributes may be set. The c:\ (or other drive
letter) starts at the Root of the drive, /s shows the whole tree and /a show
all the files. Dir C:\ help*.* /s/a will show every file that starts with
"help", no matter the extension, location, attributes or anything else.
That's my "brute force" command when all else fails to find a file that I
KNOW is there...somewhere.

In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us), so he
can cd to that folder and save some time. If that doesn't work, he can
start in "\", the Root, and search the whole volume. He may have time for a
cup of coffee - or even lunch, if it's a big drive with lots of files.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Bob said:
Dir /s shows the whole nine yards.

R. C. White said:
Hi, Paul.

Now, what do you see with a simple Dir? How about Dir /a?

When I opened an Administrator:Command Prompt window and tried your
attrib -h *.* (I had to add a space after the -h, as Bob instructed.) in
my C:\Windows\System32 folder I got hundreds of lines of "Access
denied..." because I was (unintentionally) telling Vista to remove the
Hidden attribute from all those system files.

So I switched to C:\ and tried it again. This time, I got just two
lines:
C:\>attrib -h *.*
Not resetting system file - C:\hiberfil.sys
Not resetting system file - C:\pagefile.sys

That's because Vista was refusing to reset the Hidden attribute for those
two system files. But now there are no hidden files on C:\ and I can see
all files and folders in C:\ by using the simple Dir command.

But if I use Dir /a, the /a shows me not just files and folders, but
Junctions, too - AND those two .sys files from which Attrib wouldn't
clear the Hidden attribute. Dir shows 1 File and 12 Directories; Dir /a
shows 3 files and 16 Directories, including the Recycle Bin and System
Volume Information, which don't show with the simple Dir - even after the
Hidden attribute is removed from *.*.

So, in an Administrator:Command Prompt window, cd to the folder that
holds your hidden files. Enter Dir /a. What do you see?

RC

Hello R. C. White,

I have just rebooted my computer, I have the Administrator Command
Prompt on
my screen, at this point before when I typed attrib -h*.* the screen
just
flashed, I now have text within the black screen.

There are nine lines of text all starting, Not resetting system file....

Paul

:

Hi, Paul.

tried the below,

You tried WHAT below?

At what point does:
a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long enough

Step by step, HOW to you open the Administrator:Command Prompt. I do
this
often and it never just "flashes". The window stays open until I
dismiss
it. And any command I run in this window "runs elevated".

In an earlier post you said:
Yes I am logged on as Administrator,

Just to be clear: Start | All Programs | Accessories, right-click on
Command Prompt, then Run as Administrator. You'll need to furnish
Administrator credentials to get past here.

Even if you are already running as AN administrator, this is what you
need
to do to open the Administrator:Command Prompt as THE Administrator.
In
Vista, there really are two levels of administrator; only THIS one is
GOD.

You shouldn't really need THE Administrator credentials to run the
Attrib
command, but there may be some restrictions that you might not know
about or
might have forgotten about. But the window should stay open as long as
you
want, plenty of time to see whatever you need to see.

RC

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
B

Bob

Thanks R. C., that's good information.

R. C. White said:
Hi, Bob.

Dir /s shows subfolders - all the way down - so you get all files and
folders in the entire tree.

Dir c:\ /s/a is a command that I use often to see ALL files, no matter
where they are and no matter what attributes may be set. The c:\ (or
other drive letter) starts at the Root of the drive, /s shows the whole
tree and /a show all the files. Dir C:\ help*.* /s/a will show every file
that starts with "help", no matter the extension, location, attributes or
anything else. That's my "brute force" command when all else fails to find
a file that I KNOW is there...somewhere.

In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us), so
he can cd to that folder and save some time. If that doesn't work, he can
start in "\", the Root, and search the whole volume. He may have time for
a cup of coffee - or even lunch, if it's a big drive with lots of files.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Bob said:
Dir /s shows the whole nine yards.

R. C. White said:
Hi, Paul.

Now, what do you see with a simple Dir? How about Dir /a?

When I opened an Administrator:Command Prompt window and tried your
attrib -h *.* (I had to add a space after the -h, as Bob instructed.) in
my C:\Windows\System32 folder I got hundreds of lines of "Access
denied..." because I was (unintentionally) telling Vista to remove the
Hidden attribute from all those system files.

So I switched to C:\ and tried it again. This time, I got just two
lines:
C:\>attrib -h *.*
Not resetting system file - C:\hiberfil.sys
Not resetting system file - C:\pagefile.sys

That's because Vista was refusing to reset the Hidden attribute for
those two system files. But now there are no hidden files on C:\ and I
can see all files and folders in C:\ by using the simple Dir command.

But if I use Dir /a, the /a shows me not just files and folders, but
Junctions, too - AND those two .sys files from which Attrib wouldn't
clear the Hidden attribute. Dir shows 1 File and 12 Directories; Dir /a
shows 3 files and 16 Directories, including the Recycle Bin and System
Volume Information, which don't show with the simple Dir - even after
the Hidden attribute is removed from *.*.

So, in an Administrator:Command Prompt window, cd to the folder that
holds your hidden files. Enter Dir /a. What do you see?

RC

Hello R. C. White,

I have just rebooted my computer, I have the Administrator Command
Prompt on
my screen, at this point before when I typed attrib -h*.* the screen
just
flashed, I now have text within the black screen.

There are nine lines of text all starting, Not resetting system
file....

Paul

:

Hi, Paul.

tried the below,

You tried WHAT below?

At what point does:
a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long enough

Step by step, HOW to you open the Administrator:Command Prompt. I do
this
often and it never just "flashes". The window stays open until I
dismiss
it. And any command I run in this window "runs elevated".

In an earlier post you said:
Yes I am logged on as Administrator,

Just to be clear: Start | All Programs | Accessories, right-click on
Command Prompt, then Run as Administrator. You'll need to furnish
Administrator credentials to get past here.

Even if you are already running as AN administrator, this is what you
need
to do to open the Administrator:Command Prompt as THE Administrator.
In
Vista, there really are two levels of administrator; only THIS one is
GOD.

You shouldn't really need THE Administrator credentials to run the
Attrib
command, but there may be some restrictions that you might not know
about or
might have forgotten about. But the window should stay open as long
as you
want, plenty of time to see whatever you need to see.

RC

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the
link and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know
there are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above
that says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
P

PAS

Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Export the following two keys and post the exports
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy of the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit, Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1), there was no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing, went back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files on my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft OneCare due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this, and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option on and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the
link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know
there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above
that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
K

Keith Miller \(MVP\)

The .reg files are text files. Right-click & select 'Edit' to open in
notepad, then copy & paste into your reply.

That's characteristic of a policy to override a manual change like that --
that's why I'd like to see the reg exports.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Export the following two keys and post the exports
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy of the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit, Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1), there was
no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing, went
back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

:

Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files on
my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find
them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not
view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been
locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that
could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft OneCare
due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this,
and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to
another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so
far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the
problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option on
and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a
looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not
long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and
its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to
another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h
*.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the
link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know
there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or
folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden
files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when
either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on
"Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above
that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
K

Keith Miller \(MVP\)

R. C. White said:
Hi, Bob.


In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us) so
he can cd to that folder and save some time.

It just occurred to me -- if he's trying to figure out temporary internet
files & didn't come out & say so, I'm gonna be mad!! :)
 
P

PAS

Hello Keith,

No I am trying to view word and excel documents, Photos and plans, I have a
number of details that I wanted to keep away from other people viewing, when
I wanted them I just clicked on show hidden files and folders and the
documents where there, now I can not do this. They are not that sensitive
just I do not want the locals finding out prices and suppliers.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
R. C. White said:
Hi, Bob.


In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us) so
he can cd to that folder and save some time.

It just occurred to me -- if he's trying to figure out temporary internet
files & didn't come out & say so, I'm gonna be mad!! :)



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
 
P

PAS

Hello Keith,

Hope I have done this right, here goes

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000000
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000001
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000001
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"ListviewWatermark"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:00000003
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"TaskbarGlomming"=dword:00000000
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000000
"FolderContentsInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"FriendlyTree"=dword:00000001
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000000
"PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000000
"ShowPreviewHandlers"=dword:00000001
"SharingWizardOn"=dword:00000001
"TypeAhead"=dword:00000000
"Start_ShowRecentDocs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackProgs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackDocs"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"Start_MinMFU"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuAdminTools"="NO"
"StartMenuFavorites"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuLogoff"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuRun"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuChange"=dword:00000001
"CascadeControlPanel"="NO"
"CascadeMyDocuments"="NO"
"CascadeNetworkConnections"="NO"
"CascadeMyPictures"="NO"
"CascadePrinters"="NO"
"StartMenuScrollPrograms"="NO"
"IntelliMenus"=dword:00000001

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
The .reg files are text files. Right-click & select 'Edit' to open in
notepad, then copy & paste into your reply.

That's characteristic of a policy to override a manual change like that --
that's why I'd like to see the reg exports.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Export the following two keys and post the exports

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy of the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit, Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1), there was
no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing, went
back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

:

Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files on
my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find
them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not
view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been
locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that
could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft OneCare
due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this,
and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to
another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so
far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the
problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option on
and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a
looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not
long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and
its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to
another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h
*.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the
link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know
there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or
folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden
files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when
either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on
"Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above
that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
D

Dave

PAS said:
Hello Keith,

No I am trying to view word and excel documents, Photos and plans, I have
a
number of details that I wanted to keep away from other people viewing,
when
I wanted them I just clicked on show hidden files and folders and the
documents where there, now I can not do this. They are not that sensitive
just I do not want the locals finding out prices and suppliers.


I haven't been following this thread so if I am out of line just ignore my
comment.
BUT! using "show hidden files and folders" to keep other from viewing your
documents is about the most insecure thing you could do.

You can password protect your Office files from within word or Excel if you
dont want others to see them. As far as your pictures and plans at least!
store them under your user name and password portect your account (wont be
100% secure but better then what your doing). Any files/folders you want
Guests or other accounts to have access to put them in the Public Documents
folder.

The best way to secure your files/folders is to use a encryption program.

Dave

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
R. C. White said:
Hi, Bob.


In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us)
so
he can cd to that folder and save some time.

It just occurred to me -- if he's trying to figure out temporary internet
files & didn't come out & say so, I'm gonna be mad!! :)



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
 
P

PAS

Hi Dave,

Thanks, Yes I do password protect and I do use a password protected account
but I have other reasons for hiding them, one if some body is just looking
even if they where able to see hidden files and folders they would have to
know where to look for the folders and that would take them time, and upto
now it has not been a problem.

Dave said:
PAS said:
Hello Keith,

No I am trying to view word and excel documents, Photos and plans, I have
a
number of details that I wanted to keep away from other people viewing,
when
I wanted them I just clicked on show hidden files and folders and the
documents where there, now I can not do this. They are not that sensitive
just I do not want the locals finding out prices and suppliers.


I haven't been following this thread so if I am out of line just ignore my
comment.
BUT! using "show hidden files and folders" to keep other from viewing your
documents is about the most insecure thing you could do.

You can password protect your Office files from within word or Excel if you
dont want others to see them. As far as your pictures and plans at least!
store them under your user name and password portect your account (wont be
100% secure but better then what your doing). Any files/folders you want
Guests or other accounts to have access to put them in the Public Documents
folder.

The best way to secure your files/folders is to use a encryption program.

Dave

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Hi, Bob.


In Paul's case, he knows the folder name (although he hasn't told us)
so
he can cd to that folder and save some time.

It just occurred to me -- if he's trying to figure out temporary internet
files & didn't come out & say so, I'm gonna be mad!! :)



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
 
K

Keith Miller \(MVP\)

Hmmm, don't see any policies that would affect hidden files.

For curiosity's sake, see if the problem still exists in Safe Mode or when
logged on as a different user.

The only other troubleshooting option I know of is auditing the registry key
& that will generate a lot of data to sort thru.

Search help & support for 'auditing' and read the topic named 'Monitor
attempts to access and change settings on your computer'

If you think you're up for that, let me know.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Hope I have done this right, here goes

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000000
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000001
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000001
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"ListviewWatermark"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:00000003
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"TaskbarGlomming"=dword:00000000
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000000
"FolderContentsInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"FriendlyTree"=dword:00000001
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000000
"PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000000
"ShowPreviewHandlers"=dword:00000001
"SharingWizardOn"=dword:00000001
"TypeAhead"=dword:00000000
"Start_ShowRecentDocs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackProgs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackDocs"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"Start_MinMFU"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuAdminTools"="NO"
"StartMenuFavorites"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuLogoff"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuRun"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuChange"=dword:00000001
"CascadeControlPanel"="NO"
"CascadeMyDocuments"="NO"
"CascadeNetworkConnections"="NO"
"CascadeMyPictures"="NO"
"CascadePrinters"="NO"
"StartMenuScrollPrograms"="NO"
"IntelliMenus"=dword:00000001

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
The .reg files are text files. Right-click & select 'Edit' to open in
notepad, then copy & paste into your reply.

That's characteristic of a policy to override a manual change like
that --
that's why I'd like to see the reg exports.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and
have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

:

Export the following two keys and post the exports

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy of
the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit,
Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1), there
was
no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the
value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing, went
back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

:

Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a
value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit
as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files
on
my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find
them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not
view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable
the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been
locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that
could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft
OneCare
due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this,
and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are
all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to
another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so
far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the
problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take
a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option
on
and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a
looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but
not
long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and
its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to
another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program,
I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of
is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the
folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path]
attrib -h
*.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed
the
link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I
know
there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an
external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or
folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden
files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when
either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on
"Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window,
above
that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
P

PAS

Hi Keith

I tried Safe Mode the same problem, tried logging in as another user again
same problem,

Typed Auditing, I have two options, 1. Windows security information for IT
Pros, 2 What information appears in event logs? (Event Viewer).

So what do I do?

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Hmmm, don't see any policies that would affect hidden files.

For curiosity's sake, see if the problem still exists in Safe Mode or when
logged on as a different user.

The only other troubleshooting option I know of is auditing the registry key
& that will generate a lot of data to sort thru.

Search help & support for 'auditing' and read the topic named 'Monitor
attempts to access and change settings on your computer'

If you think you're up for that, let me know.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Hope I have done this right, here goes

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000000
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000001
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000001
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"ListviewWatermark"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:00000003
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"TaskbarGlomming"=dword:00000000
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000000
"FolderContentsInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"FriendlyTree"=dword:00000001
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000000
"PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000000
"ShowPreviewHandlers"=dword:00000001
"SharingWizardOn"=dword:00000001
"TypeAhead"=dword:00000000
"Start_ShowRecentDocs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackProgs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackDocs"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"Start_MinMFU"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuAdminTools"="NO"
"StartMenuFavorites"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuLogoff"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuRun"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuChange"=dword:00000001
"CascadeControlPanel"="NO"
"CascadeMyDocuments"="NO"
"CascadeNetworkConnections"="NO"
"CascadeMyPictures"="NO"
"CascadePrinters"="NO"
"StartMenuScrollPrograms"="NO"
"IntelliMenus"=dword:00000001

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
The .reg files are text files. Right-click & select 'Edit' to open in
notepad, then copy & paste into your reply.

That's characteristic of a policy to override a manual change like
that --
that's why I'd like to see the reg exports.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and
have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

:

Export the following two keys and post the exports

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy of
the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit,
Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1), there
was
no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the
value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing, went
back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

:

Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a
value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit
as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files
on
my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find
them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not
view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable
the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been
locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that
could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft
OneCare
due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this,
and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are
all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to
another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so
far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the
problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take
a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option
on
and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a
looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but
not
long
enough
 
S

SG

Hi Paul,

Can't help with your problem, but in the future you may be interested in
this....
http://lifehacker.com/software/windows-tip/make-a-folder-invisible-307527.php

--
All the best,
SG


PAS said:
Hi Keith

I tried Safe Mode the same problem, tried logging in as another user again
same problem,

Typed Auditing, I have two options, 1. Windows security information for IT
Pros, 2 What information appears in event logs? (Event Viewer).

So what do I do?

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Hmmm, don't see any policies that would affect hidden files.

For curiosity's sake, see if the problem still exists in Safe Mode or
when
logged on as a different user.

The only other troubleshooting option I know of is auditing the registry
key
& that will generate a lot of data to sort thru.

Search help & support for 'auditing' and read the topic named 'Monitor
attempts to access and change settings on your computer'

If you think you're up for that, let me know.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hello Keith,

Hope I have done this right, here goes

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=dword:00000091

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"LogonHoursAction"=dword:00000002
"DontDisplayLogonHoursWarnings"=dword:00000001




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000000
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000001
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000001
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"ListviewWatermark"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:00000003
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"TaskbarGlomming"=dword:00000000
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000000
"FolderContentsInfoTip"=dword:00000001
"FriendlyTree"=dword:00000001
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000000
"PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000000
"ShowPreviewHandlers"=dword:00000001
"SharingWizardOn"=dword:00000001
"TypeAhead"=dword:00000000
"Start_ShowRecentDocs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackProgs"=dword:00000000
"Start_TrackDocs"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"Start_MinMFU"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuAdminTools"="NO"
"StartMenuFavorites"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuLogoff"=dword:00000000
"StartMenuRun"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuChange"=dword:00000001
"CascadeControlPanel"="NO"
"CascadeMyDocuments"="NO"
"CascadeNetworkConnections"="NO"
"CascadeMyPictures"="NO"
"CascadePrinters"="NO"
"StartMenuScrollPrograms"="NO"
"IntelliMenus"=dword:00000001

Paul

:

The .reg files are text files. Right-click & select 'Edit' to open in
notepad, then copy & paste into your reply.

That's characteristic of a policy to override a manual change like
that --
that's why I'd like to see the reg exports.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Sorry I do not understand, I know where the HKEY's are located and
have
exported them, but what do you mean post the exports?

Every time I change the value for Hidden from (0) to (1) when I
close
RegEdit it resets back to (0),

What have I done wrong.

Paul

:

Export the following two keys and post the exports

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies]



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hello Keith,

Entered the Registry, found the HKEY you indicated, Made a copy
of
the
Registry, Hidden had the value (0), so highlited the text, Edit,
Modify
and
changed the value to (1), ShowSuperHidden has the value (1),
there
was
no
DontShowSuperHidden but there was an entry SuperHidden it has the
value
(1)

I closed the registry, checked foe hidden files still nothing,
went
back
into Registry and the value has reset to (0).

Paul

:

Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a
value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values,
create/edit
as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of
files
on
my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and
find
them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can
not
view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to
enable
the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has
been
locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program
that
could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have
not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft
OneCare
due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before
this,
and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure
this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are
all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to
another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them
so
far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the
problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you
take
a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have
any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View
option
on
and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a
looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but
not
long
enough
 
P

PAS

Firstly to All many thanks for your help in trying to sort out my Hidden File
and Folder problem, I have got round the problem by reinstalling Windows and
everything is working fine now.

Keith just checked the HKEY and this is what I have found,

First when the tick box for Do Not Show Hidden Files or Folders

Hidden = 2
ShowSuperHidden = 0
Superhidden = 0

second when the tick box for Show Hidden Files and Folders

Hidden = 1
ShowSuper Hidden = 0
Superhidden = 0

So still do not know what the problem was, I have reinstalled all the
programs as before and all my files and folders, and every thing is working
fine.

again many thanks for your help, keep up he good work.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a value named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files on my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find them, I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not view any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been locked so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that could be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft OneCare due to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this, and as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

Bob F. said:
Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are all these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so far, say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take a test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any (view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option on and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a looking for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder. Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.* and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 
B

Bob F.

Paul,
One long shot. Maybe you already answered this but, have you tried what you
are trying to do on another Vista computer? Just trying to eliminate
you...so to speak. Not trying to be offensive.
BobF.

PAS said:
Firstly to All many thanks for your help in trying to sort out my Hidden
File
and Folder problem, I have got round the problem by reinstalling Windows
and
everything is working fine now.

Keith just checked the HKEY and this is what I have found,

First when the tick box for Do Not Show Hidden Files or Folders

Hidden = 2
ShowSuperHidden = 0
Superhidden = 0

second when the tick box for Show Hidden Files and Folders

Hidden = 1
ShowSuper Hidden = 0
Superhidden = 0

So still do not know what the problem was, I have reinstalled all the
programs as before and all my files and folders, and every thing is
working
fine.

again many thanks for your help, keep up he good work.

Paul

Keith Miller (MVP) said:
Look in the registry under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

There should be a value named 'Hidden' with a value of 1 and a value
named
'ShowSuperHidden' with a value of 1.

If these values do not exist or have different values, create/edit as
necessary.

Also check under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

and (if it exists)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

if a value named 'DontShowSuperHidden' exists, delete it.


--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



PAS said:
Hi Bob,

I have a number of hidden folders with different types of files on my
computer, as I know the file names I can search for them and find them,
I
can
then copy them to other folders and view them no problem,

If I take a file and make it hidden I can not view it. I can not view
any
hidden files including system files.

The View Folders and Files, I can not change the state to enable the
viewing
of hidden files and folders. it is as though this part has been locked
so
no
hidden files can be viewed.

I remember in the old days of Windows 98 there was a program that could
be
installed and do exactly what is happening here. But I have not
installed
any
such program here, the only recent reinstalls was Microsoft OneCare due
to
a
back up problem, but the hidden file problem started before this, and
as I
said I have tried all the system restores none of which cure this
problem
with not being able to view hidden files.

Paul

:

Paul ... Just a couple more questions if you don't mind. Are all
these
hidden files in the same folder? You said you moved them to another
system
and you could read them. What happens if you don't move them so far,
say
to
another folder (out from under the one(s) you are having the problem
with) ?
Can you read hidden files anyplace on your system? Can you take a
test
file
that you can read, go to it's properties and see if you have any
(view)
control over it by turning the Hidden File, Folder View option on and
off.
How does the test file view behave? I am not sure what we a looking
for
here...but we'll know it when we see it.
Bob F.

Hi Bob,

tried the below, a black screen flashes onto the screen but not long
enough
to read any thing, but still no luck in viewing the folder and its
contents.

I have retrieved the files using Search and copied them to another
folder.

I have run every type of Anti virus, Malware, Spyware program, I
have
tried
all the system restores. the only other thing I can think of is
running
the
recovery program.

But any other ideas before I go for that.

Paul

:

Try this.
Open an administrator command prompt and navigate to the folder.
Type
attrib -h *.* and press Enter.

Or open an administrator command prompt. Type [path] attrib -h *.*
and
press
Enter.


Hello Bob F.
Yes I am logged on as Administrator, and I have followed the
link
and
followed the instructions, the icons in the Control panel
disappear
briefly
when I click Apply but when I go to the folder where I know
there
are
hidden
files there is nothing, If I copy this folder to an external
hard
drive
and
then connect it to another computer I can view the files.
Paul

I am out of ideas. I've never had these steps fail. Maybe
someone
else
can help.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.
The box you indicated is greyed out.

Paul
See:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
Note items 6 and 7.
Bob F.


:

Hi Bob F.

I can not uncheck the Do Not Show Hidden files or folders
it
just
highlites
the text, if I click on the line below Show hidden files
and
folders
the
blue
marker moves to show it has been selected but when either
I
click
apply
or
ok
I get the same result I can not view hidden files.>>


Ok you are about there. You are right. Just click on "Show
hidden
files
and folders" Then what I left out was:
Hit the first rectangular box, in the View Window, above
that
says
"Apply
to
Folders".
Bob F.
 

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