Vertical lines on prints

[Craig]

I am currently using Canon ip4000 which is less than a year old.
Now, I am getting full of vertical lines on the prints. Colors are great,
though.
Even after maintenance (cleaning, and print head alignment), the vertical
lines did not disappears.
Those vertical lines on beautiful human faces transform into
not-so-beautiful faces.
Please advise me how to fix this problem. TIA. Craig

 

[CWatters]

I am currently using Canon ip4000 which is less than a year old.
Now, I am getting full of vertical lines on the prints. Colors are great,
though.
Even after maintenance (cleaning, and print head alignment), the vertical
lines did not disappears.
Those vertical lines on beautiful human faces transform into
not-so-beautiful faces.
Please advise me how to fix this problem. TIA. Craig

Vertical lines are usually caused by the output rollers.

Have you changed ink or paper? Some combinations take longer to dry and the
ink may not be dry before the printed bit goes through the rollers.

 

[Craig]

Have you changed ink or paper?

Yes. I filled inks last week.

Some combinations take longer to dry and the
ink may not be dry before the printed bit goes through the rollers.

Could you please advise me how to dry faster? TIA. Craig

 

[Lou]

Yes. I filled inks last week.


Could you please advise me how to dry faster? TIA. Craig

Move to AZ ("Its a dry heat") and print outside?

Lou

 

[Craig]

Move to AZ ("Its a dry heat") and print outside?

That is a good idea. BTW, we live right next to AZ.
Our place is also quite dry and everything dries faster except for those
damn inks in ip4000.

Craig

 

[CWatters]

On some printers you can change the drying time parameter. This does not
speed up drying! It slows down the paper so it takes longer to get from the
head to the rollers.

 

[measekite]

I am currently using Canon ip4000 which is less than a year old.
Now, I am getting full of vertical lines on the prints. Colors are great,
though.
Even after maintenance (cleaning, and print head alignment), the vertical
lines did not disappears.
Those vertical lines on beautiful human faces transform into
not-so-beautiful faces.
Please advise me how to fix this problem. TIA. Craig

use canon ink. if the problem persists then call canon tech support.
you will not get an answer here.

 

[Craig]

This is new to me.
measekite implied that one of the problems with non-OEM inks is to cause
vertical lines (i..e, slow drying time).
Is that correct? Craig

 

[zakezuke]

This is new to me.
measekite implied that one of the problems with non-OEM inks is to cause
vertical lines (i..e, slow drying time).
Is that correct? Craig

While i'm sure it's possible that some non-OEM inks have a different
drying time, measekite has NO experence with anything beyond OEM.
While using a different medium, like buying OEM or another brand, would
be thoughtful troubleshooting, I would personaly evaluate the mechanics
rather than the medium at this point.

While looking at the front of the printer, and opening the lid, there
is a button you can press to print when the lid is upright. Look tward
the aft of the lid, tward the right there are is a pyrimid like
patrusion.... below is small button... press the button with something
like a pencil and see if the lines happen while printing, or after
exiting.

While i don't have a picture of what you are talking about exactly,
what is likely is ink has collected on the rollers. This is normal
when using borderless printing.

-----
1. Perform Bottom plate cleaning (from the printer
driver) up to 3 times Change the paper in each Bottom plate
cleaning. The cleaning can end when paper
does not get any soiling.
2. If soiling on the paper still remains after 3 times
of Bottom plate cleaning, wipe the platen rib(s)
and their surroundings with a cotton swab.
----- ip4000 service manual 2-4

Buttom plate cleaning IIRC involves folding a piece of paper in half,
unfolding it, and using the feature which causes the paper to move back
and forth.

 

[measekite]

This is new to me.
measekite implied that one of the problems with non-OEM inks is to cause
vertical lines (i..e, slow drying time).
Is that correct? Craig

you have partially clogged nozzles due to generic ink

 

[Craig]

measerkit,

As posted earlier, I cleaned, and checked for both nozzles/ head alignment.
I do this maintenance routinely prior to printing images.
I swear that there was/is no clogging with ip4000.

Your diagnosis is definitely wrong. If you were MD, you were supposed to be
hit with a huge malpractice suit.
Your are now lucky because we are talking about cheap printers here.
God saved your life!!!!

Craig





after maintenance (cleaning, and print head alignment), the vertical

 

[Frank]

measerkit,

As posted earlier, I cleaned, and checked for both nozzles/ head alignment.
I do this maintenance routinely prior to printing images.
I swear that there was/is no clogging with ip4000.

Your diagnosis is definitely wrong. If you were MD, you were supposed to be
hit with a huge malpractice suit.
Your are now lucky because we are talking about cheap printers here.
God saved your life!!!!

Craig





after maintenance (cleaning, and print head alignment), the vertical

Pay no attention to that half-wit mmoron! Try this: on your print
quality setting, set it to custom and set halftoning to fine and diffusion.
HTH
Frank

 

[CWatters]

This is new to me.
measekite implied that one of the problems with non-OEM inks is to cause
vertical lines (i..e, slow drying time).
Is that correct? Craig

Some combinations of ink and paper don't work well together - the ink
doesn't soak in like it should it sits on the surface.

I have an Epson and an HP printer. The first photo paper I tried to use in
both printers didn't work well. Every other photo paper I've tried has
worked fine. Interestingly supermarket photo paper works well - I guess
because they try and make sure it works in all makes of printer - unlike
paper from the printer manufacture which is designed to work well with their
make of printer/ink.

 

[Fenrir Enterprises]

Some combinations of ink and paper don't work well together - the ink
doesn't soak in like it should it sits on the surface.

I have an Epson and an HP printer. The first photo paper I tried to use in
both printers didn't work well. Every other photo paper I've tried has
worked fine. Interestingly supermarket photo paper works well - I guess
because they try and make sure it works in all makes of printer - unlike
paper from the printer manufacture which is designed to work well with their
make of printer/ink.

Craig's problem sounds more like there's a problem with the printhead
than the paper combinations, but I've found that there are many
combinations of papers/printers that don't work well.

HP paper definitely doesn't work properly in any other brand printer.
It's polymer-swellable, and chemically formulated to work with HP inks
to make them more permanent. I know in an Epson the ink just beads up
on it. Epson paper is also polymer swellable, but from most reports
I've seen online, it works well with Canon printers and actually makes
better longevity. Canon paper is apparently microporous, as are most
'supermarket' brands. Microporous papers are more likely to be
universally compatible but don't offer as good a print longevity as
swellable paper.

I haven't had good luck with Kodak or Jet Print paper in any printer.
I wound up throwing all of it away because it just wouldn't work, the
ink would puddle or remain sticky. I have heard that Kodak paper has
been redesigned and is supposedly more compatible than it used to be.
I don't know whether these papers are polymer-swellable or microporous

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[measekite]

Craig's problem sounds more like there's a problem with the printhead
than the paper combinations, but I've found that there are many
combinations of papers/printers that don't work well.

HP paper definitely doesn't work properly in any other brand printer.
It's polymer-swellable, and chemically formulated to work with HP inks
to make them more permanent. I know in an Epson the ink just beads up
on it. Epson paper is also polymer swellable, but from most reports
I've seen online, it works well with Canon printers

oh yeah and that is why canon tech support will recommend epson paper if
you do not want to use canon

and actually makes
better longevity. Canon paper is apparently microporous, as are most
'supermarket' brands. Microporous papers are more likely to be
universally compatible but don't offer as good a print longevity as
swellable paper.

i have no problem with longevity and micropourous papers and canon ink.

 

[measekite]

measerkit,

As posted earlier, I cleaned, and checked for both nozzles/ head alignment.
I do this maintenance routinely prior to printing images.
I swear that there was/is no clogging with ip4000.

Your diagnosis is definitely wrong. If you were MD, you were supposed to be
hit with a huge malpractice suit.
Your are now lucky because we are talking about cheap printers here.
God saved your life!!!!

you do not know if there is or is not a god

 

[CWatters]

Craig's problem sounds more like there's a problem with the printhead

Could be but he has said he's done cleaning and nozle checks.

HP paper definitely doesn't work properly in any other brand printer.
It's polymer-swellable, and chemically formulated to work with HP inks
to make them more permanent. I know in an Epson the ink just beads up
on it.

Yes that pretty well describes what happened.

Epson paper is also polymer swellable, but from most reports
I've seen online, it works well with Canon printers and actually makes
better longevity.

Thanks. I don't think I tried Epron paper in the HP. I've been getting quite
good results from TDK PRO Quality 170g glossy in the Epson.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Most of Epson's paper is not swellable polymer type, but microporous.

In fact, I believe the only Epson swellable polymer paper is the one
type they designed to increase the lifespan of dye ink, which they
called something like "longlife" (Can't recall just now, but I've been
up for over 36 hours, too.)

Swellable Polymer papers do not work well with most Pigment inks, such
as Durabrite or Ultrachrome, BTW.

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