Using bootvis, I found 5 sec disk init time!?, would like to correct it

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El Perro

Hi all! Seeking your wisdom. I have XP w/ SP1, 3.2GHz P4 w/ HT (so XP
sees it as ACPI multiprocessor) 800MHZ fsb, 1GB RAM. Want to perfect
my boot time using bootvis. All goes fast except for the disk init
time reported by bootvis. It should be within the typical 2 seconds,
but is instead at 5 seconds. I know, it's "only" 3 seconds, but I
paid so much for the system, I don't want to accept BS delays. When I
zoom in on "cpu usage" during the "offending" 3 seconds, hal is
running under the "system" PID and "ntoskrnl" is running under the
"idle" PID, AND THAT'S IT. I've disabled the ide slaves under device
manager, and they are on DMA mode. Not sure where to go from here.
Any diagnostic utilities out there that may better analyze what is
occuring at that time? My deepest thanks for any help.
-Ben
 
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Chris Lanier

Just FYI. Bootvis is not for the end user. If is a tool for developers.
you can post here, but dont expect a good answer.

"Please note that Bootvis.exe is not a tool that will improve boot/resume
performance for end users. Contrary to some published reports, Bootvis.exe
cannot reduce or alter a system's boot or resume performance. The boot
optimization routines invoked by Bootvis.exe are built into Windows XP.
These routines run automatically at pre-determined times as part of the
normal operation of the operating system."
 
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The Unknown P

The following statement By Chrs is entirely misleading and
patently false.

"Please note that Bootvis.exe is not a tool that will
improve boot/resume
performance for end users. Contrary to some published
reports, Bootvis.exe
cannot reduce or alter a system's boot or resume
performance. The boot
optimization routines invoked by Bootvis.exe are built
into Windows XP.
These routines run automatically at pre-determined times
as part of the
normal operation of the operating system."

This statement is entirely BS. BootVis can and does
optimize the boot procedure on any end users OS. XP does
optimize boot performance but only about every three days
or so. This can lead to a slow boot on systems that are
not left on at all times. BootVis activates this
optimizing feature immediately and will reduce bootup
times considerably. For instance. My initial Boot Trace
time showed 64 seconds. I then clicked the optimize boot
performance and let it do it's things. After arranging
files for improved performance I once again used the Boot
Trace to see what bootup times were now. The time had been
reduced to 45 seconds. Nearly a 20 second improvement.
Please don't spread false information Chris. If you posted
this in error then you should check out the facts about
BootVis before misleading the unknowing. Keep smiling.
 
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john

I would tend to forget about Bootvis, as MS has pulled the download for some
'known only to them' reason.
There are a few reports I've seen where it supposedly has caused unscheduled
severe boot-up probs & driver changes.

Seeing you don't appear to worry about spending a bit extra, why not do what
I did?
Forget the inbuilt XP Defrag (which is a 'bare-bones' defrag prog. written
by Diskeeper for MS) & download Diskeeper Pro 8.0
http://www.executive.com/diskeeper/diskeeper.asp

Apart from their normal "set-it-and-forget-it" setting, which works like a
dream and doesn't affect performance while running, there's an option there
to run "Set a boot-time defragmentation", which is a manual one-off end-user
option.
It makes one hell of a difference. e.g., after running it (it initiates
during the next boot-up), open any app.which normally takes a few secs to
open, time it, close & re-open the app. & I guarantee it opens at least
twice as fast.
 
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rlmars1

I had some problems on my system when I used BootVis, I would definitely
recommend that it NOT be used. If your systems boots in around twenty to
30 seconds, you are doing good. Depending on your BIOS, you may be able to
shave a few seconds off boot, by turning on rapid-bios boot etc. Check you
bios and bios documentation, and see if there is anything there that can be
speeded up.

Diskeper is a better idea, however, in Win Xp a boot-time defragmenmtation
is NOT needed and unnecessary. Runing diskeper often enough is the key.
Diskeper technical support will confirm this for any that do not believe me.

Richard
 
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