users of News.Individual.NET,

M

Maurice Helwig

I received this today is it genuine ir is it a joke -- April 1st is
mentioned a bit

Maurice Helwig
moritzATspinDOTnetDOTau

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear users of News.Individual.NET,

effective from April 1th, 2005, use of News.Individual.NET will
not be free of charge anymore. The news service will continue as
a fee-based service.

The details:
============

Effective immediately, registration for our news service is only
possible through our web site:

http://news.individual.net/

Registration by e-mail (as hitherto) is no longer possible.

Holders of existing accounts who want to continue using their account
need to convert it into a pay account. This is also only possible
through our web site:

http://news.individual.net/

You will also find all details on payment options, terms of use, and
terms of contract on the web site.

The time until March 31th, 2005, is a transitional period so that
holders of existing accounts will have plenty of time for convenient
conversion. Sign-up for new accounts or conversion of existing accounts
made within the transitional period (before April 1th, 2005) will not
cause any disadvantages:

Contracts concluded within the transitional period will last until
March 31th, 2006 (Annual Subscription) or June 30th, 2005 (3 Months
Subscription) without additional costs. Then the contracts will auto-
matically renew themselves for another year or another three months
respectively.

Important notes:

Effective from April 1th, 2005, all non-converted accounts will stop
working.

Users who use the server News.CIS.DFN.DE as part of the DFNNetNews
project are not effected by the changes described above. Nothing will
change for these users, they do not need to do anything.

The fee:
========

The fee for an account for News.Individual.NET is 10 EUR per year
(annual payment), that converts to only 0.84 EUR per month. The price
includes VAT at 16%.

The background:
===============

The tradition of running news servers at Freie Universitaet Berlin goes
back as far as 1989 (historic keyword: "Methan"). The news service was
open for external users ever since: Until 1992, there was no access
restriction at all (as usual at that time). Later, a basic access
management where IP numbers and domain names were added on request was
established.

Starting with the CIS project (a third-party funded project of DFN)
of ZEDAT of Freie Universitaet Berlin, the news service was expanded
by the feature of registration for individual users in the beginning
of the year 1998:

News.CIS.DFN.DE was born. (*)

(*) see Message-ID: <[email protected]>

After the CIS project was finished in mid 2002, the administrators kept
this service alive by maintaining it mainly in their spare time. Since
this was not sustainable in perpetuity, options on how to raise money
from external people and institutions for the provision and maintenance
of the service had to be researched and created. Several approaches to
find sponsors for the service eventually failed, especially due to the
lack of understanding by the potential sponsors for the nature of Usenet.

Since July 1th, 2003, ZEDAT offers - again in cooperation with DFN - news
services to other research and education institutions for money (service
name: "DFNNetNews"). In the course of this cooperation, the server name
"News.CIS.DFN.DE" vested exclusively to DFNNet
"News.Individual.DE" and "News.Individual.NET" are the new server names
under which the service is available for the more than 250,000 external
individual users that were registered since the beginning of 1998.

After a long evaluation and preparation period, the service will convert
to a fee-based service for these external individual users effective from
April 1th, 2005. We regret that it is no longer possible to offer this
service free of charge.

We would be very happy if our service convinced its users of its quality
and of the engagement of its operators during the many years of its
existence so that they decide to stay our users even if the service is not
free of charge anymore.

Besides, we would - of course - like to thank all people that recommended
our service over the years and used it responsibly and carefully in the
spirit of Usenet!

Best regards,
the NetNews Team of Freie Universitaet Berlin

Glossary:
=========

CIS = DFN project "Center for Information Services"
DFN = Germany's National Research and Education Network
ZEDAT = Computer Center of Freie Universitaet Berlin

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
K

Kerry Liles

It does not seem like a joke. But 10Euros a year for a well managed news
server (albeit text only groups) seems more than reasonable.
 
F

Filthy McNasty

Using at least one appendage, the entity known in this space-time continuum
Dear users of News.Individual.NET,

Sad day. My own ISP's News service is "erratic", and this is going to force
me to consider reverting to their own gappy offerings. It IS a very
reasonable price, but us po' trash are still going to be looking for free,
reliable alternatives. Any suggestions? Binaries would be nice, but not
essential

Will Cornish of Cardigan, UK - No nastier than you; No filthier than usual

To EMail Remove Anti-Spam Spaces: filthy-mcnasty @ btconnect.com
 
J

Jsp

Maurice said:
I received this today is it genuine ir is it a joke -- April 1st is
mentioned a bit


Dear users of News.Individual.NET,

effective from April 1th, 2005, use of News.Individual.NET will
not be free of charge anymore. The news service will continue as
a fee-based service.
How about freetext.usenetserver.com as an alternative newsserver. Any
experience with this one?
Jsp
 
S

Sweet Andy Licious

Maurice said:
I received this today is it genuine ir is it a joke -- April 1st is
mentioned a bit

Maurice Helwig
moritzATspinDOTnetDOTau

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear users of News.Individual.NET,

effective from April 1th, 2005, use of News.Individual.NET will
not be free of charge anymore. The news service will continue as
a fee-based service.

The details:
============

Effective immediately, registration for our news service is only
possible through our web site:

http://news.individual.net/

Registration by e-mail (as hitherto) is no longer possible.

Holders of existing accounts who want to continue using their account
need to convert it into a pay account. This is also only possible
through our web site:

http://news.individual.net/

You will also find all details on payment options, terms of use, and
terms of contract on the web site.

The time until March 31th, 2005, is a transitional period so that
holders of existing accounts will have plenty of time for convenient
conversion. Sign-up for new accounts or conversion of existing
accounts made within the transitional period (before April 1th, 2005)
will not cause any disadvantages:

Contracts concluded within the transitional period will last until
March 31th, 2006 (Annual Subscription) or June 30th, 2005 (3 Months
Subscription) without additional costs. Then the contracts will auto-
matically renew themselves for another year or another three months
respectively.

Important notes:

Effective from April 1th, 2005, all non-converted accounts will stop
working.

Users who use the server News.CIS.DFN.DE as part of the DFNNetNews
project are not effected by the changes described above. Nothing will
change for these users, they do not need to do anything.

The fee:
========

The fee for an account for News.Individual.NET is 10 EUR per year
(annual payment), that converts to only 0.84 EUR per month. The price
includes VAT at 16%.

The background:
===============

The tradition of running news servers at Freie Universitaet Berlin
goes back as far as 1989 (historic keyword: "Methan"). The news
service was open for external users ever since: Until 1992, there was
no access restriction at all (as usual at that time). Later, a basic
access management where IP numbers and domain names were added on
request was established.

Starting with the CIS project (a third-party funded project of DFN)
of ZEDAT of Freie Universitaet Berlin, the news service was expanded
by the feature of registration for individual users in the beginning
of the year 1998:

News.CIS.DFN.DE was born. (*)

(*) see Message-ID: <[email protected]>

After the CIS project was finished in mid 2002, the administrators
kept this service alive by maintaining it mainly in their spare time.
Since this was not sustainable in perpetuity, options on how to raise
money from external people and institutions for the provision and
maintenance of the service had to be researched and created. Several
approaches to find sponsors for the service eventually failed,
especially due to the lack of understanding by the potential sponsors
for the nature of Usenet.

Since July 1th, 2003, ZEDAT offers - again in cooperation with DFN -
news services to other research and education institutions for money
(service name: "DFNNetNews"). In the course of this cooperation, the
server name "News.CIS.DFN.DE" vested exclusively to DFNNet
"News.Individual.DE" and "News.Individual.NET" are the new server
names under which the service is available for the more than 250,000
external individual users that were registered since the beginning of
1998.

After a long evaluation and preparation period, the service will
convert to a fee-based service for these external individual users
effective from April 1th, 2005. We regret that it is no longer
possible to offer this service free of charge.

We would be very happy if our service convinced its users of its
quality and of the engagement of its operators during the many years
of its existence so that they decide to stay our users even if the
service is not free of charge anymore.

Besides, we would - of course - like to thank all people that
recommended our service over the years and used it responsibly and
carefully in the spirit of Usenet!

Best regards,
the NetNews Team of Freie Universitaet Berlin

Glossary:
=========

CIS = DFN project "Center for Information Services"
DFN = Germany's National Research and Education Network
ZEDAT = Computer Center of Freie Universitaet Berlin

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not a joke.
I too use this service. I do have an ISP which still provides newsgroup
service, but I notice many are not now. Or at least usenet is not important
to them.

Try http://www.yottanews.com/ I just found it searching the web, so I have
no idea how good it is. There are probably others.
 
S

stxol

Sweet Andy Licious wrote:
/snip/
Try http://www.yottanews.com/ I just found it searching the web, so I have
no idea how good it is. There are probably others.

--
Andy


email: sweetandylicious at eml dot cc
From yottanews' FAQ:

"I have a free account can I get posting rights?

No. Due to abuse we will not allow free users to post. We have
several very economical premium packages that will allow you to post."
 
?

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=

"I have a free account can I get posting rights?

No. Due to abuse we will not allow free users to post. We have
several very economical premium packages that will allow you to
post."

And here's what happens when you sign up for a free account:

An account has been created for IP address 157.30.140.144.

That's me! But it won't be me in a few minutes.

You will only be able to use this account when connecting from
that IP address.

Oh, well. For people with static IPs 1 free GB/month isn't bad.
 
C

Chaos Master

This is »Q« for forever:
And here's what happens when you sign up for a free account:

An account has been created for IP address 157.30.140.144.

That's me! But it won't be me in a few minutes.

You will only be able to use this account when connecting from
that IP address.

Makes it useless for me... I'm on dynamic IP (-56k dial-up)

[]s
--
Chaos Master®, posting from Canoas, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil - 29.55° S
/ 51.11° W / GMT-2h / 15m .

"People told me I can't dress like a fairy.
I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want!"
-- Amy Lee

(My e-mail address isn't read. Please reply to the group!)
 

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