Use W98SE Version of Paint Under Windows 2000?

[Guest]

W98SE included Paint (PBRUSH.EXE, 20 KB, 5/11/98), which supported writing
image files in the .gif and .jpg formats, which I frequently use. W2K
includes Paint (MSPAINT.EXE, 313 KB, 6/19/03), which doesn't support writing
image files in either of those formats. Copying over W98SE Paint to W2K and
opening it invokes W2K Paint (suspect WFP is getting in the way -- both files
probably have the same digital signature). How can I use the W98SE version
of Paint under W2K? My configuration is W2K Pro SP4, Rollup1. Thank you.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

W98SE included Paint (PBRUSH.EXE, 20 KB, 5/11/98), which supported writing
image files in the .gif and .jpg formats, which I frequently use. W2K
includes Paint (MSPAINT.EXE, 313 KB, 6/19/03), which doesn't support writing
image files in either of those formats. Copying over W98SE Paint to W2K and
opening it invokes W2K Paint (suspect WFP is getting in the way -- both files
probably have the same digital signature). How can I use the W98SE version
of Paint under W2K? My configuration is W2K Pro SP4, Rollup1. Thank you.

I tried both bprush.exe (Win98) and mspaint.exe (Win2000) on two
of my Win2000 machines. Both programs ran fine and both behaved
in exactly the same manner:

- On PC1, both were able to save files in .gif and .jpg format.
- On PC2, neither had the .gif or .jpg options.

I suspect the difference is not so much due to the different versions
but more to what else is loaded on the machine, probably MS Office.
Maybe an Office newsgroup could shed more light on this.

 

[Frank346]

W98SE included Paint (PBRUSH.EXE, 20 KB, 5/11/98), which supported writing
image files in the .gif and .jpg formats, which I frequently use. W2K
includes Paint (MSPAINT.EXE, 313 KB, 6/19/03), which doesn't support writing
image files in either of those formats. Copying over W98SE Paint to W2K and
opening it invokes W2K Paint (suspect WFP is getting in the way -- both files
probably have the same digital signature). How can I use the W98SE version
of Paint under W2K? My configuration is W2K Pro SP4, Rollup1. Thank you.

The version of Paint is not the problem. Your Win2000 machine does not have
GIF and JPG filters installed. The information at
http://www.geocities.com/one_human/advanced.html#mspaint_fix may help.

 

[Guest]

I tried both bprush.exe (Win98) and mspaint.exe (Win2000) on two
of my Win2000 machines. Both programs ran fine and both behaved
in exactly the same manner:

- On PC1, both were able to save files in .gif and .jpg format.
- On PC2, neither had the .gif or .jpg options.

I suspect the difference is not so much due to the different versions
but more to what else is loaded on the machine, probably MS Office.
Maybe an Office newsgroup could shed more light on this.

Thank you for taking the time to perform this experiment, which negated my
hypothesis. You were right on -- had I installed MS Office with the
applicable graphics filters, MSPAINT would have been able to read and write
..gif and .jpg files. (See KB articles 230902 and 298580. I Googled and
searched the KB before posting, but just didn't pick these up.)

 

[Guest]

The version of Paint is not the problem. Your Win2000 machine does not have
GIF and JPG filters installed. The information at
http://www.geocities.com/one_human/advanced.html#mspaint_fix may help.

Thank you for the URL. The information at one_human was very helpful. I
followed his procedure to the letter (downloaded filters and merged registry
keys), but it didn't result in the .jpg and .gif options being displayed in
the Save As dialog box, even after re-boot. I suspect there's more registry
editing to do. I've got a W98SE machine that can deal with these images and
a W2K machine that can't. I just need to cross-check the paths and values to
get it working. At least I know what the problem is and am not groping in
the dark. And there's the fall-back position recommended at one_human of
installing IrfanView. Once again, thank you.

 

[Frank346]

I use Irfanview and can recommend it. Regarding the problem with Paint, I
found that exporting did not work using the One_Human files just as you did.
A better option that does work fully is available from Microsoft. Search for
article 212265 in the knowledge base. Follow the instructions to download
and install oconvpck.exe, the Office File Converter Pack.

 

[Rick Chauvin]

Thank you for the URL. The information at one_human was very helpful. I
followed his procedure to the letter (downloaded filters and merged
registry keys), but it didn't result in the .jpg and .gif options being
displayed in the Save As dialog box, even after re-boot. I suspect
there's more registry editing to do. I've got a W98SE machine that can
deal with these images and a W2K machine that can't. I just need to
cross-check the paths and values to get it working. At least I know

Absolutely the link and information does work! easily.
I suspect you just didn't do the procedures just right, but it certainly
does work.

Rick

 

[Guest]

I use Irfanview and can recommend it. Regarding the problem with Paint, I
found that exporting did not work using the One_Human files just as you did.
A better option that does work fully is available from Microsoft. Search for
article 212265 in the knowledge base. Follow the instructions to download
and install oconvpck.exe, the Office File Converter Pack.

Thanks for the reference. The article implies one must have MS Office
installed to work the solution. My machine is a server that collects data
all day and stores graphics at night, so I haven't installed MS Office.

Here's the problem with the one_human MS Paint fix. He assumes that MS
Office or another MS component application has been installed. But if you do
a clean install of W2K, SP4, and Rollup1 as I did -- without any graphics or
word processing application -- no image API filters are enabled in the Export
and Import keys of the HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shared Tools/Graphics Filters
key. (Recall that one_human's fix doesn't modify the Export or Import keys
-- it only adds the GIF and JPEG keys to them.)

The solution is to modify the "Image API Enabled Filters" value (REG_SZ) of
the Export and Import keys (no value after W2K install) to include the file
types GIF and JPEG. Then it will work.

If you're like me and don't want legacy OS directories hanging around, you
would also move the GIFIMP32.EXE and JPEGIM32.EXE filters to
C:\WINNT\MsApps\Grphflt, get rid of the C:\windows directory, and modify the
4 GIF and JPEG Path values in the Registry accordingly. (His fix is written
for Win98, not for W2K.)

Thanks for the help, and good luck in your other debug ventures.