USB

[Ed Murray - Dillegm]

Does line depravation apply to USB cabling?

In example: Could I theoretically create a 50 foot long or more USB cable?

How about s-video? Same thing?

Here is the scenerio...
Our office is about 35-40 feet from our family room. I would like to setup a
home-theater box in the family room. I can't splurge right now, so I want to
do the next best thing. I am putting a tuner card in our computer soon. I
would like to run audio and video cables from the PC (in the office) to our
TV (in the family room) Also, I have a Microsoft IR remote (designed for
MCE/Vista). The receiver is USB, and has a 6' cable. I would also like to
run a USB cable along with the audio/video cables into the family room (if
this is even possible) We have TV cable into our office, to hook up the
tuner card. Essentially, this would work, as long as the USB cable is
possible. I know this seems like a lot, but I like PVR's and I also enjoy
tinkering. Any suggestions?

Thank you!

 

[Rod Speed]

Does line depravation apply to USB cabling?

That is a poor way to describe what you are asking about.

In example: Could I theoretically create a 50 foot long or more USB cable?

Yes, but you cant just have one that long.

How about s-video? Same thing?

s-video is a different animal, essentially because it a one way system and
since its analog and not digital, you get some degradation of the signal with
any cable, more with longer cables, and you can conteract that with a better
cable too. The short story is that thats quite feasible length wise.

Here is the scenerio...
Our office is about 35-40 feet from our family room. I would like to
setup a home-theater box in the family room. I can't splurge right
now, so I want to do the next best thing. I am putting a tuner card
in our computer soon. I would like to run audio and video cables from
the PC (in the office) to our TV (in the family room) Also, I have a
Microsoft IR remote (designed for MCE/Vista). The receiver is USB,
and has a 6' cable. I would also like to run a USB cable along with
the audio/video cables into the family room (if this is even possible)

The max length for a simple USB cable is 5M. You have have 5 hubs
between 5M cables, and so get 30M, or even 25M with a single
cable with a slow speed USB device.

We have TV cable into our office, to hook up the tuner card. Essentially, this would work, as long
as the USB cable is possible.

Yes, some do it that way.

I know this seems like a lot, but I like PVR's and I also enjoy tinkering.

Yeah, I use a PVR myself, tho I have it all in the one room.

Any suggestions?

Just try a long one and put a hub between two half that far if it doesnt work.

 

[Ed Murray - Dillegm]

That is a poor way to describe what you are asking about.

I appologize for the lack of proper wording. When it comes to explanations,
I'm rather poor. But that's why people such as yourself exist; to correct
people like me.

Yes, but you cant just have one that long.

s-video is a different animal, essentially because it a one way system and
since its analog and not digital, you get some degradation of the signal
with
any cable, more with longer cables, and you can conteract that with a
better
cable too. The short story is that thats quite feasible length wise.

For Audio/Video purposes, do you suggest another route? (Besides building a
PVR box) It would bug the hell out of me if there was a timing or latency
issue with either one. However I decide to do this, hopefully it will be a
long-term solution.

The max length for a simple USB cable is 5M. You have have 5 hubs
between 5M cables, and so get 30M, or even 25M with a single
cable with a slow speed USB device.

Yes, some do it that way.

Yeah, I use a PVR myself, tho I have it all in the one room.

Just try a long one and put a hub between two half that far if it doesnt
work.

I will try that. I assume the hub would have to be the powered type, so that
signal is "boosted" or atleast regulated?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Rod Speed]

I appologize for the lack of proper wording.

A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel itself |-)

When it comes to explanations, I'm rather poor.

You are indeed.

But that's why people such as yourself exist; to correct people like me.

Down, boy.

For Audio/Video purposes, do you suggest another route?

Nope, I should have been clearer that that was just
the theory and that it should be fine in your situation.

(Besides building a PVR box) It would bug the hell out of me if there was a timing or latency
issue with either one.

That isnt possible with s-video. The most that can happen
is that the video quality wont be as good as when its close,
and you should be able to get a better cable if that happens.

The USB will either work or it wont, and a hub between
two half length cables should work fine if no hub doesnt.

However I decide to do this, hopefully it will be a long-term solution.

Should work fine as long as you are happy with what you can do with the remote.

I will try that. I assume the hub would have to be the powered type, so that signal is "boosted"
or atleast regulated?

Nope, a non powered one should be fine, essentially because the repeat
function is powered from the cable, not much power is needed to do that.

Thanks for your help.

No problem.

 

[Dusty Steenbock]

A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel itself |-)


You are indeed.

<Snip>

Don't worry Mr Murray. No one In this group looks down on you. Except rod
speed who Is miracousally right In all his answers and looks down on
everyone who disagrees with him. Ignore his pathetic, childish atics.

 

[Stephen]

Does line depravation apply to USB cabling?

In example: Could I theoretically create a 50 foot long or more USB cable?

How about s-video? Same thing?

Here is the scenerio...
Our office is about 35-40 feet from our family room. I would like to setup a
home-theater box in the family room. I can't splurge right now, so I want to
do the next best thing. I am putting a tuner card in our computer soon. I
would like to run audio and video cables from the PC (in the office) to our
TV (in the family room) Also, I have a Microsoft IR remote (designed for
MCE/Vista). The receiver is USB, and has a 6' cable. I would also like to
run a USB cable along with the audio/video cables into the family room (if
this is even possible) We have TV cable into our office, to hook up the
tuner card. Essentially, this would work, as long as the USB cable is
possible. I know this seems like a lot, but I like PVR's and I also enjoy
tinkering. Any suggestions?

Thank you!

http://www.usb.org/developers/usbfaq/#cab1

For the video get a set of cat5 to video baluns.

Stephen
--

 

[Rod Speed]

Don't worry Mr Murray. No one In this group looks down on you. Except rod speed who Is
miracousally right In all his answers and looks down on everyone who disagrees with him.

That was a joke, ****wit.

It even had a smiley for the terminally SoH challenged.

 

[Rod Speed]

For the video get a set of cat5 to video baluns.

No need for 40' of s-video, just a decent cable is all you need.

 

[Rod Speed]

http://www.usb.org/developers/usbfaq/#cab1

Pity about
http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5/
and the explicit mention of low speed in that.

 

[Dusty Steenbock]

That was a joke, ****wit.

It even had a smiley for the terminally SoH challenged.

Smiling while being a dick doesn't make It any better shit for brains. Don't
bother replying. My killfile Is getting a new addition. It'll be much more
pleasurable reading this group without your inane babble.

 

[zappo]

Smiling while being a dick doesn't make It any better shit for brains.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

Don't bother replying. My killfile Is getting a new addition.

Fat lot of good that will do you, ****wit child.

It'll be much more pleasurable reading this group without your inane babble.

No one actually gives a flying red **** what you do or do not read, ****wit child.

 

[Dusty Steenbock]

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

*Yawn* Same, boring reply to everyone.

Fat lot of good that will do you, ****wit child.

Oh It will do me much good. *plonk*

No one actually gives a flying red **** what you do or do not read,
****wit child.

Apparently you do.

 

[Jim P Sharma]

*Yawn* Same, boring reply to everyone.

Oh It will do me much good. *plonk*

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.

Apparently you do.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.

 

[Dusty Steenbock]

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.



Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.

LOL Do you cut and paste this dribble? *plonk*

 

[JAD]

there are repeater cables for usb that enable you to run upto 3 of them in a
row for 40 feet or so

 

[geoff]

LOL, college kids, he claims to be an old guy but takes the time to change
his name so he can call people ****wits, lol.

Actually, I wonder if he is even at college level, he sounds more like
highschool or less.

-g

 

[Sam Jones]

LOL Do you cut and paste this dribble? *plonk*

Fat lot of good that will do you, ****wit child.

 

[Jim P Sharma]

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
geoff <[email protected]> desperately attempted
to bullshit its way out of its predicament and fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always.

 

[geoff]

Ok little boy . . .

-g

 

[Jim P Sharma]

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
geoff <[email protected]> desperately attempted
to bullshit its way out of its predicament and fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always.