USB Thumb drive does not show drive install or contents.

C

computerkiller

With Scan Disk I can run software from the manufacture to to see the
contents, but I have no such luck with the Kingston Technology DataTraveler.
How do I find the USB Port that is associated with it and how do I read the
contents. (I got three USB ports on the front of my computer which I assume
the computer is calling drive I:, J:, K: and L:. This is for a Dell 700 XPS.
By the way how do I know what the drives on my monitor or keyboard would be?
I assume that the ports in the back of the computer do not count.)
 
R

RJK

computerkiller said:
With Scan Disk I can run software from the manufacture to to see the
contents, but I have no such luck with the Kingston Technology
DataTraveler.
How do I find the USB Port that is associated with it and how do I read
the
contents. (I got three USB ports on the front of my computer which I
assume
the computer is calling drive I:, J:, K: and L:. This is for a Dell 700
XPS.
By the way how do I know what the drives on my monitor or keyboard would
be?
I assume that the ports in the back of the computer do not count.)


I wonder if it's a mistake - tackling this one - because you're somewhat
vague !

By "Scan Disk" do you really mean "Sandisk" brand USB pen-drive :-
....so perhaps - Sandisk vs. Kingston USB pen-drives ?

In any event, a drive letter is not normally allocated to an empty USB port!

XP detects a USB pen-drive as a "mass-storage device" and gives it the next
available drive letter - on your system.
If your Dell 700 XPS has a 3 1/2" card reader bay, (too tired to look it
up), then, drives I: J: K: L:
probably belong to that !

The USB ports at the 'rear', (mounted on the motherboard), also do not have
drive letters assigned to them.
There has been some poor motherboard examples in the past where a "rear" USB
port is "shared" with a USB pin-header, (perhaps connected to a case-front
USB port/s) , causing problems when two USB devices are effectively
connected to the same USB port !

....hope that cleared up a couple of points.

regards, Richard
 
P

Paul

computerkiller said:
With Scan Disk I can run software from the manufacture to to see the
contents, but I have no such luck with the Kingston Technology DataTraveler.
How do I find the USB Port that is associated with it and how do I read the
contents. (I got three USB ports on the front of my computer which I assume
the computer is calling drive I:, J:, K: and L:. This is for a Dell 700 XPS.
By the way how do I know what the drives on my monitor or keyboard would be?
I assume that the ports in the back of the computer do not count.)

The XPS 700 has a media card reader. So that could account for
some of the drive letters.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps700/sp/SM_en/parts.htm#wp1126345

The front panel I/O board has two USB connectors (labeled "2"). The
one to the left of it is a Firewire connector (labeled "1").

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps700/sp/SM_en/mospo106.jpg

If you want to enumerate USB ports which are supported directly by the
Southbridge, this program can do it. Click one of the dated links, to
get a copy of UVCView.x86.exe. The x86 version is for WinXP 32 bit.

http://web.archive.org/*/http://dow...f-a31d-436b-9281-92cdfeae4b45/UVCView.x86.exe

The output of that program looks similar to this screen. The highlighted
article is a USB2 device connected to Port3. Ven=0ECD Dev=A100

http://www.die.de/blog/content/binary/usbview.png

Using this page of IDs, Ven=0ECD Dev=A100 gives...

http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

0ecd Lite-On IT Corp.
a100 LDW-411SX DVD/CD Rewritable Drive

So that person is using a USB optical drive of some sort.

To access the drive, there is no point unless it shows
up in Disk Management. If you see the device in there,
then there is hope. If it is not listed in Disk Management,
then there is some problem setting up USB endpoints or the
like. Check the file setupapi.log on your C: drive,
and near the end of the file, you may see something related
to the recent plug-in of that USB device.

If the device shows up in Disk Management, then you could
try copying all the sectors with a copy of "dd". There is
a bug in "dd, with regard to USB flash. The end of the
flash device is not properly detected. If copying all the
sectors, you need to enter a precise block size and count
option.

http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

For example, on my computer, this is how I would copy my 8GB
OCZ Rally2 Flash stick, using a command prompt window.

dd --list

\\?\Device\Harddisk2\Partition0 <---- this entry is the whole disk
...
Removable media other than floppy. Block size = 512
size is 8019509248 bytes

\\?\Device\Harddisk2\Partition1 <---- the first and only partition on it
...
Removable media other than floppy. Block size = 512
size is 8013233152 bytes

Notice that the single partition is smaller than the whole "disk".

Now, to copy off all of the sectors on the device, and store
them on my NTFS volume V: as a single file. The only value of
this file presently, is as a restoration mechanism later, to
another 8GB or larger flash stick.

First, I use the Linux "factor" program, to factor that large
number 8019509248 = 2**25 * 239, or 1048576 * 7648. Now I'm ready
to issue the copy command, storing a backup copy.

dd if=\\?\Device\Harddisk2\Partition0 of=V:\big.bin bs=1048576 count=7648

7648+0 records in
7648+0 records out

The copy runs at 20MB/sec and takes almost 7 minutes (no, I didn't time it).

Now, if my flash stick fails completely, I have a 8019509248 byte
copy of its contents. I can copy that back onto another
flash stick later.

Now, if I wanted, I could try to repair the file system on the
flash stick, without fear of losing everything. I have my 8GB backup
file on V: . It would depend on how the flash stick was prepared in
the first place, as to what I'd do with it. I'm not a data
recovery guy, so at this point, maybe someone else can help with
that aspect.

Paul
 
C

computerkiller

Sorry the point of using San Disk brand of USB was to show it worked, after
down loading the software, versus the fact that Kingston USB pen-drives did
not work. I wanted to know how I could make the Kingston USB pen-drives have
the ability to search the drive. (Please note Vista actomaticly reconizes the
the drive.) Thank you for your help.

Dennis

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