Upgrading processor, have cooler question

[jtpryan]

I am upgrading my current processor (1.60 gigahertz Intel Core Duo) to
an ntel® Core™2 Duo Desktop Processor 2.6 gigahertz E4700. Will I
need to use a different fan, or will the one on the current processor
suffice? If I need another one, how would I spec it out?

Thank you,

Jim

 

[JR Weiss]

I am upgrading my current processor (1.60 gigahertz Intel Core Duo) to
an ntel® Core™2 Duo Desktop Processor 2.6 gigahertz E4700. Will I
need to use a different fan, or will the one on the current processor
suffice? If I need another one, how would I spec it out?


If you buy the retail box version of the Intel CPU, it comes with a cooler.

If you're buying the bare CPU and have a cooler, the old one will work if the
TDP (thermal design power) of the new CPU (AFAIK, 65 Watts) is same or less than
the old one.

 

[Z]

I am upgrading my current processor (1.60 gigahertz Intel Core Duo) to
an ntel(R) Core(tm)2 Duo Desktop Processor 2.6 gigahertz E4700. Will I
need to use a different fan, or will the one on the current processor
suffice? If I need another one, how would I spec it out?

Thank you,

Jim

Your current CPU must be the "T2050".

search the intel CPUs at "intel.com":
the only one that meet the "Core Duo" and "1.60GHz" condition is
T2050, which is actually for mobile...
T2050 65 nm 2 MB L2 1.6 GHz 533 MHz 31W
Its "Power"(or "TDP"?) is 31W.

and in
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm?iid=prod_core2duo+tab_spec
we cannot see the E4700 one though, but the max TDP(or "Power"?) of
the E4?00(?={3, 4, 5, 6}) series is 65W

but on
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/index.htm
it says:"Investing in new PCs with Intel(R) Core(tm)2 processor family can
mean big savings for your business. Delivering faster performance,
greater energy efficiency..."

The CPUs can be thought of as an induction cooker sometime, and the
higher TDP(or Power?) it marks the warmer it feels. But part of the
CPUs can run at a much lower power when the computing is not that
heavy, so the power just varies according to the computing scales.
Most of the modern CPUs have this function, and it seems that the
later CPUs do better in this aspect. So sometimes we can cool the CPU
by decrease the computing while running low utilizing rate apps and
services.

 

[jtpryan]

Your current CPU must be the "T2050".

search the intel CPUs at "intel.com":
the only one that meet the "Core Duo" and "1.60GHz" condition is
T2050, which is actually for mobile...
T2050 65 nm 2 MB L2 1.6 GHz 533 MHz 31W
Its "Power"(or "TDP"?) is 31W.

and inhttp://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm?i...
we cannot see the E4700 one though, but the max TDP(or "Power"?) of
the E4?00(?={3, 4, 5, 6}) series is 65W

but onhttp://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/index.htm
it says:"Investing in new PCs with Intel(R) Core(tm)2 processor family can
mean big savings for your business. Delivering faster performance,
greater energy efficiency..."

The CPUs can be thought of as an induction cooker sometime, and the
higher TDP(or Power?) it marks the warmer it feels. But part of the
CPUs can run at a much lower power when the computing is not that
heavy, so the power just varies according to the computing scales.
Most of the modern CPUs have this function, and it seems that the
later CPUs do better in this aspect. So sometimes we can cool the CPU
by decrease the computing while running low utilizing rate apps and
services.

I ran the Processor ID utility from Intel on it and it is the E2140.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLA93

The one I want to put in is:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLALT



-Jim

 

[Paul]

I ran the Processor ID utility from Intel on it and it is the E2140.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLA93

The one I want to put in is:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLALT

-Jim

I measured the power consumption on my E4700, and at the input
to the Vcore regulator, it draws 36W while doing Prime95. So
I don't expect you'll need powerful CPU cooling. That is less
power than the 65W listed in the Intel web page.

Paul

 

[jtpryan]

I measured the power consumption on my E4700, and at the input
to the Vcore regulator, it draws 36W while doing Prime95. So
I don't expect you'll need powerful CPU cooling. That is less
power than the 65W listed in the Intel web page.

    Paul

Yeah, I think I'll use the same cooler I have now. I did note on a
cooler website a discalimer that said something along the lines of
"socket 775 requires removal of motherboard to install this cooler".
What is that about? Can't I just pull the processor, remove the
current cooler, put it on the new processor, install new processor?

-Jim

 

[Paul]

Yeah, I think I'll use the same cooler I have now. I did note on a
cooler website a discalimer that said something along the lines of
"socket 775 requires removal of motherboard to install this cooler".
What is that about? Can't I just pull the processor, remove the
current cooler, put it on the new processor, install new processor?

-Jim

You didn't mention which cooler you're looking at.

I have this cooler, and it has nuts that tighten on the back
of the motherboard. So for this one, you have to take the
motherboard out of the case, to fit it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103046

If you're using the Intel retail fan, it has the push pins. They
fit from the front. So if you use an Intel cooler with the push
pins, you don't have to take it apart.

If you want to see how to install the Intel retail cooler with
push pins, there is a video available here. It shows how to use
the push pins, further along in the video. (You can right-click
one of the links on the page, and select "save-as" to save
the file.)

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/100617.htm

Paul

 

[jtpryan]

You didn't mention which cooler you're looking at.

I have this cooler, and it has nuts that tighten on the back
of the motherboard. So for this one, you have to take the
motherboard out of the case, to fit it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103046

If you're using the Intel retail fan, it has the push pins. They
fit from the front. So if you use an Intel cooler with the push
pins, you don't have to take it apart.

If you want to see how to install the Intel retail cooler with
push pins, there is a video available here. It shows how to use
the push pins, further along in the video. (You can right-click
one of the links on the page, and select "save-as" to save
the file.)

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/100617.htm

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Thank you, that was very helpful.

Thank you all for the input.

-Jim

 

[JR Weiss]

I measured the power consumption on my E4700, and at the input
to the Vcore regulator, it draws 36W while doing Prime95. So
I don't expect you'll need powerful CPU cooling. That is less
power than the 65W listed in the Intel web page.

Yeah, I think I'll use the same cooler I have now. I did note on a cooler
website a discalimer that said something along the lines of "socket 775
requires removal of motherboard to install this cooler". What is that
about? Can't I just pull the processor, remove the current cooler, put it
on the new processor, install new processor?

Most of the high-end coolers require mounting plates under the MoBo because
they are MUCH heavier than the max specified by Intel in their spec. The
plates stiffen the MoBo so it doesn't break.

Some reasonably good coolers do not require MoBo removal, including the
well-regarded Arctic Cooling Freezer 7
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134).

I run my 95W CPU at full load all the time, so I went with a Noctua cooler
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608001). If your
demands are lighter, the Freezer 7 may be fine. I would not rely on a
cooler designed for less than half the thermal dissipation...

 

[SteveH]

I second the Arctic Cooler Freezer 7. I have been using one for years
on an overclock and it has served me very well.

Bob

And again, and great value for money as well.

 

[Rarius]

I second the Arctic Cooler Freezer 7. I have been using one for years
on an overclock and it has served me very well.

Bob

I add my vote for the Freezer 7 Pro as well... I have a Intel Core 2
Quad 6600, overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3.25GHz cooled by a Freezer 7 Pro.
My CPU cores range from 30C at idle to 55C on full load which is WELL
within the thermal spec of the CPU.

Yes you did read right! An 40% overclocked quad core cooled by a Freezer
7 Pro reaching 55C on full load!

Rarius

 

[jtpryan]

I add my vote for the Freezer 7 Pro as well... I have a Intel Core 2
Quad 6600, overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3.25GHz cooled by a Freezer 7 Pro.
My CPU cores range from 30C at idle to 55C on full load which is WELL
within the thermal spec of the CPU.

Yes you did read right! An 40% overclocked quad core cooled by a Freezer
7 Pro reaching 55C on full load!

Rarius

Well, I used the same cooler and all seems to be doing well. Been
running for about 4 days and never going over 48 C.

Thank you for all the help.

-Jim