updating XP for new computer

[Gary L. Drescher]

I'm about to assemble a new computer and install Windows XP (OEM) to it
(deleting XP from my old computer). Beforehand, I'd like to download
critical updates (hopefully mostly in cumulative form) and write them to a
CDR so I can install from there to the new computer, rather than having a
window of vulnerability when the new computer is online to download the
updates.

Is this feasible? Is there a readily identifiable set of updates that can
be downloaded for this purpose?

Thanks.

 

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I'm about to assemble a new computer and install Windows XP (OEM) to it
(deleting XP from my old computer). Beforehand, I'd like to download
critical updates (hopefully mostly in cumulative form) and write them to a
CDR so I can install from there to the new computer, rather than having a
window of vulnerability when the new computer is online to download the
updates.

Is this feasible? Is there a readily identifiable set of updates that can
be downloaded for this purpose?

Thanks.

Go to the general Windows Update Web site, and under Other Options,
select Personalize Windows Update. Then select "Display the link to the
Windows Update Catalog under See Also" and then Save Settings.Under See
Also, you will now have Windows Update Catalog.

Then access the corporate Windows Update Catalog directly. After you
access the catalog, you can add several fixes to download to your
machine and copy to CD.


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[David]

I'm about to assemble a new computer and install Windows XP (OEM) to
it (deleting XP from my old computer). Beforehand, I'd like to
download critical updates (hopefully mostly in cumulative form) and
write them to a CDR so I can install from there to the new computer,
rather than having a window of vulnerability when the new computer is
online to download the updates.

Is this feasible? Is there a readily identifiable set of updates
that can be downloaded for this purpose?

Thanks.

OEM Disks are tied to the frist computer it is installed on. you
probably won't be able to activate an OEM XP on a new machine.

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[Gary L. Drescher]

OEM Disks are tied to the frist computer it is installed on. you
probably won't be able to activate an OEM XP on a new machine.

I'm essentially upgrading a *lot* of components all at once. Isn't that
allowed?

Thanks,
Gary

 

[Gary Drescher]

OEM Disks are tied to the frist computer it is installed on. you
probably won't be able to activate an OEM XP on a new machine.

It turns out there was no difficulty activating the OEM XP Pro on my new
machine--it just worked.

--Gary

 

[David]

I'm essentially upgrading a *lot* of components all at once. Isn't
that allowed?

Thanks,
Gary

Nope.

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[David]

It turns out there was no difficulty activating the OEM XP Pro on my new
machine--it just worked.

--Gary

Yes. But if you ever need to change the motherboard you will need to
purchase a new copy of XP. OEMs are tied to the FRIST computer it's
installed on.

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[Gary Drescher]

Yes. But if you ever need to change the motherboard you will need to
purchase a new copy of XP. OEMs are tied to the FRIST computer it's
installed on.

But I did change the motherboard. And the processor, memory, video card,
disk drive, DVD/RW, and case. The only parts I kept from the original OEM
computer are the mouse and the keyboard.

--Gary

 

[Gary Drescher]

But I did change the motherboard. And the processor, memory, video card,
disk drive, DVD/RW, and case. The only parts I kept from the original OEM
computer are the mouse and the keyboard.

--Gary

I just realized we might be misinterpreting one another. When I refer to my
OEM XP, I don't mean an installation disk from e.g. Dell. It's an MS
installation disk, but it's Microsoft's OEM version (the disk says it's for
distribution with a new PC only, and that the Certificate of Authenticity
should be physically attacthed to the PC). It's for smaller OEMs who just
assemble random custom components for customers. The customized
installation disks from other OEMs may well be more stringently tied to a
particular hardware configuration.

--Gary

 

[David]

But I did change the motherboard. And the processor, memory, video
card, disk drive, DVD/RW, and case. The only parts I kept from the
original OEM computer are the mouse and the keyboard.

Then you are in violation of the OEM EULA yet some how got it to
activate. Those changes would have tripped activation even on a full
retail vesion of XP. Prehaps if the changes were made after 120 days of
activation, you were able to re-activate. I don't know. All I know is
that according to MS. An OEM license can only be installed on eone
computer. Period. Even if the machine were physically destroyed, it's not
allowed to be installed on another computer.


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[David]

I just realized we might be misinterpreting one another. When I refer
to my OEM XP, I don't mean an installation disk from e.g. Dell. It's
an MS installation disk, but it's Microsoft's OEM version (the disk
says it's for distribution with a new PC only, and that the
Certificate of Authenticity should be physically attacthed to the PC).
It's for smaller OEMs who just assemble random custom components for
customers. The customized installation disks from other OEMs may well
be more stringently tied to a particular hardware configuration.

Makes no difference. It's still bound by the OEM license terms. PC
Manufactuerers usually provide a Recovery CD or a branded OEM XP CD.
Neither of which can be pfyically installed. Recovery CD's are images of
the hard drive as it came from the PC Factory and have to be installed on
the EXACT same hardwre. And, Branded CD's are BIOS-locked. They will only
install on a a system witht the same BIOS. The OEM Vesrion you have si
from Microsoft and like you said, is for small PC Builders. It can be
installed on any computer. But, can not be trasferred. This is the reason
that OEM CD's are cheaper then retail. Read the EULA on the CD.


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[Gary Drescher]

The OEM Vesrion you have si
from Microsoft and like you said, is for small PC Builders. It can be
installed on any computer. But, can not be trasferred. This is the reason
that OEM CD's are cheaper then retail.

I thought it was because MS provides no tech support for the OEM version.

--Gary

 

[Gary Drescher]

Then you are in violation of the OEM EULA yet some how got it to
activate. Those changes would have tripped activation even on a full
retail vesion of XP. Prehaps if the changes were made after 120 days of
activation, you were able to re-activate. I don't know. All I know is
that according to MS. An OEM license can only be installed on eone
computer. Period. Even if the machine were physically destroyed, it's not
allowed to be installed on another computer.

One problem with the OEM EULA is that there's no clear definition of
what constitues a different computer. Nothing in the EULA singles out
the motherboard as the anchor that establishes a computer's identity.
Does the original computer become a different one if you replace just
a single component? If you replace most of them? How about if you
gradually replace them, one by one, until no original component
remains? The PC manufacturer attached the certificate of authenticity
to the case; does that mean that the case (and only the case) has to
be retained to keep using that copy of XP?

I suspect that MS's automatic re-activation of my OEM XP indicates
either their acknowledgement that the replacement of all the
components is within bounds of the license, or else that their attempt
to prohibit transfer has been deemed an illegal restriction of fair
use.

--Gary