unwanted edge line on print out

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Guest

How do I get rid of a thin line on left and top that is showing up on either B&w or gray scale full page slide printouts? Page size is set correctly, tried both scale to page and without. Looking at template the background (plain 1 color) appears to have a "shadow". Is it coming from that? and how do I turn it off. Using PPT 2002 windows.
 
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John Langhans [MSFT]

[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
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Updates".]

Hello,

PowerPoint will default to printing in grayscale mode, when printing to a
device which cannot produce color output. Since many presentations use
color heavily (primarily for on-screen display), PowerPoint automatically
adjust the color output so that objects which contrast well on-screen (in
color) will also contrast well when printed in either grayscale or black &
white mode. Otherwise color presentations would commonly result in very
dark, grayscale output using lots of toner when printed to black and white
devices. It's this automatic adjustment which is most likely causing the
unwanted line to print.

The default adjustments can, however, be overridden and customized on a
per-object basis if you find that the automatic decisions by PowerPoint are
not what you want. There's lots of information how to do this in the
PowerPoint help files. Simply query on "print grayscale", "print black and
white", or "print troubleshooting" and you should get a good list of
applicable topics.

Additionally, you can preview how your presentation will print in either of
the three print modes (Color, Grayscale, Pure Black and White) using the
Print Preview command in PowerPoint 2002 and 2003 (so that you can adjust
the behavior for the objects that don't preview the way you want, before
printing). In all version of PowerPoint that have the grayscale/black and
white printing feature you can also change to grayscale/black and white
view while editing your presentation and, while in this view, you can
adjust how selected objects print when using the grayscale print option.

For your specific presentation, simply switch your view to Grayscale view
(or Black and White view if you are using PowerPoint 2000 and earlier), go
to the slide containing the object that doesn't print as desired,
RIGHT+CLICK on the object and from the context menu choose change the
Grayscale (or Black and White) setting property until you find a setting
which gives you the desired results when printing using the grayscale print
option.

If you (or anyone else reading this message) have other ideas about how
color presentations should print to black and white printers and/or how to
make this feature more useful (without having to resort to programming or
add-ins), don't forget to send your feedback to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
your wish but also why it is important to you that your product suggestion
be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
suggestions every day and we read each one but, in any given product
development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible. Each submission should be
a single suggestion (not a list of suggestions).

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows

For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto

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Guest

these lines do not show up when viewing print preview, or gray scale, or b&W. There are also no objects on either the slide or the template (did a select all to double check) where these lines are showing up. They are on the left and top where the frame line would print, not showing on bottom or right - but are thiner than the printed frame line. How do I get rid of them? I have over 200 images to print formy client and the deadline is lurking!! HELP
 
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Echo S

I have seen this issue when printing 3-up handouts, pano. I'm not sure what
causes it, to tell you the truth. I wonder if it's something to do with
presentation/templates which have been carried through a bazillion versions
of PPT, but I've really no idea what the cause here really is.

Anyway, what I've had to do with these -- and there may be a better
resolution, but this works in a pinch -- is to go to View/Master/Slide
Master and place background-colored boxes with no lines on the edges of the
slides. Have them hang over so they're partially on the slide and partially
off. Put a box on each slide edge.

Then go to View/Black and White and right-click those boxes. Choose B/W
Settings and select "White" from those options.

Do the same on the Title master.

Now, this should take care of most of your slides, but you may have to add
those "edge boxes" to some slides themselves. For instance, I've always had
to add them to graph slides manually, as those slides don't seem to pick up
the "edge boxes" from the master for some reason.

Sorry I don't have a better resolution for you, but hopefully this will
allow you to get through your deadline.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

pano said:
these lines do not show up when viewing print preview, or gray scale, or
b&W. There are also no objects on either the slide or the template (did a
select all to double check) where these lines are showing up. They are on
the left and top where the frame line would print, not showing on bottom or
right - but are thiner than the printed frame line. How do I get rid of
them? I have over 200 images to print formy client and the deadline is
lurking!! HELP
 
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Steve Rindsberg

Where did the images come from, Pano?

Some applications antialias the edges of graphics when they export them. This
can lead to e.g. a white background image that has a thin border of one or two
pixels that are just slightly off-white.

Usually its' not visible to the eye, you need to use a paint program's
eyedropper tool to sample the pixels and get a numerical readout of the values
to catch the difference.

But the printer driver will sometimes emphasize these small differences; it may
assume that white means white, put down no dots; but off-white must be
deliberate, so put down the slightest visible dot pattern possible. That can
really emphasize these small diffs.

One possible fix is to open the image in an editor and if you do see the slight
diff. at the border, crop a few pixels off.

Or try cropping it slightly in PPT.
 

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