Uninstall program recommendation please

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***In2Ndo***

Hello,
New to Win Vista, last used XP-Pro. If I remember correctly. uninstalling
programs would live junk in the system and registry.
Is there a program that will take care of program uninstalling taking care
of all the junk and registry? or is Vista taking care of this?


Thank you

Oscar A.
 
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Snidley W.

***In2Ndo*** said:
Hello,
New to Win Vista, last used XP-Pro. If I remember correctly. uninstalling
programs would live junk in the system and registry.
Is there a program that will take care of program uninstalling taking care
of all the junk and registry? or is Vista taking care of this?

Uninstall using the program's own utility or Programs and Features
(formerly Add or Remove Programs). Leave everything be after that.
Vista doesn't need registry "cleaning". If you decide to try to use
one, make ABSOLUTELY SURE you have your system backed up by something
like Acronis True Image.

You very will might need it.
 
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Victek

Hello,
New to Win Vista, last used XP-Pro. If I remember correctly. uninstalling
programs would live junk in the system and registry.
Is there a program that will take care of program uninstalling taking care
of all the junk and registry? or is Vista taking care of this?


Thank you
Revo Uninstaller is safe in my experience, and will remove traces left
beyond by the application's uninstaller.
 
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Snidley W.

Victek said:
Revo Uninstaller is safe in my experience, and will remove traces left
beyond by the application's uninstaller.

And if you've never run it before it will find crap to remove from the
registry that will DEFINITELY mess things up if the operator doesn't
have a clue.
 
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***In2Ndo***

Thanks for the replies....
I've been playing with windows since Win-95 so I think I'll be ok playing
with the registry.. I've always liked my systems running clean and smooth.
Always clone the drive first and always read before clicking delete. The
system. at least up to Win-XP will eventually run horrible or not at all if
all the junk is left in there. This wouldn't be my first time doing this.
I'm just new to Win Vista... and I have had my share of Win reinstallation's
while learning. :) but its been a while.

Thanks again

Oscar A.
 
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***In2Ndo***

Just one question... If you don't mind
Win-Xp had a way to start the system running only the minimum required
tasks.. It was accomplish by removing a check mark somewhere and the system
would prompt to turn it back on at the next restart.
Now.. the question is, where or how can I accomplish this on Vista?
Just in case, not to be confused with safe mode.
The reason for this is because I like to clone the drive while only the
minimum tasks are running. this way I haven't found problems when having to
use the cloned copy.

Thanks

Oscar A.
 
K

Ken Blake

Hello,
New to Win Vista, last used XP-Pro. If I remember correctly. uninstalling
programs would live junk in the system and registry.


Often, but not always.

But it doesn't matter. The amount of space the junk takes up is normally
tiny, and having it there has no effect on performance.

Is there a program that will take care of program uninstalling taking care
of all the junk and registry? or is Vista taking care of this?


There are several programs that purport to address this issue. My strong
recommendation is that you avoid them all, since they don't do anything
important and they are very dangerous. Here's my standard post on this
subject:

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry
isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any
registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, andwhat vendors of
registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having
unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may
have.
 
G

Gordon

***In2Ndo*** said:
Thanks for the replies....
I've been playing with windows since Win-95 so I think I'll be ok playing
with the registry.. I've always liked my systems running clean and smooth.
Always clone the drive first and always read before clicking delete. The
system. at least up to Win-XP will eventually run horrible or not at all
if
all the junk is left in there.

This doesn't really apply to Vista - orphaned entries in the registry won't
make any difference to the running of the machine that you would be able to
see....
 
V

Victek

Hello,
And if you've never run it before it will find crap to remove from the
registry that will DEFINITELY mess things up if the operator doesn't
have a clue.

Not sure what you're talking about. My experience with Revo Uninstaller is
it only removes files and registry keys associated with the specific
application that is being removed. I have used it for a long time and it
has never caused problems.
 
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Ron

Rubbish!!

If you know what you are doing then cleaning and defragging the registry is
a walk in the park.

BTW...If you run many programs and have to uninstall and re-install updates
you will find there is a lot of rubbish left in the registry AND it does
slow your computer down!!

Cheers

Ron
 
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Bruce Chambers

Ron said:
Rubbish!!

If you know what you are doing then cleaning and defragging the registry
is a walk in the park.


No, it's never a "walk in the park." It can be done safely, but only
if you know what you're doing; most people don't. In fact, those who
know what they're doing can do it without using a dangerous registry
cleaner; all others should leave the registry alone.

BTW...If you run many programs and have to uninstall and re-install
updates you will find there is a lot of rubbish left in the registry....


Only if one consistently uses improperly designed/coded or incompatible
applications.

.... AND
it does slow your computer down!!


Sorry, but *NO ONE* has ever been able to offer any scientifically
verifiable evidence to support that claim. Will you be the first?


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Ron

The Max said:
Sorry, Charlie... that is a holdover memory from the 286/386/486 days
of computing.

It has absolutely no merit today - except in the minds of misinformed
home computer users..

Do you process 1000's of images regularly in photoshop?

If so, have you looked in the registry to see how many entries are built up
re: these images?

I am a professional photographer and far from an inexperienced home computer
user.

BTW I seriously hope microsoft brings out a much better OS than Vista
Ultimate 64, otherwise I'm switching to some other OS.

For those defenders of the realm (microsoft) why is it that the majority of
businesses aren't using Vista?

Cheers

Ron
 
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Bruce Chambers

Do you process 1000's of images regularly in photoshop?

If so, have you looked in the registry to see how many entries are built
up re: these images?

So what? And why aren't you ranting at the makers of the clearly poorly
designed PhotoShop, rather than trying to blame Vista for another
product's inadequacies? And you still haven't offered any evidense to
suggest that these entries hinder performance in any way.

I am a professional photographer and far from an inexperienced home
computer user.


No meaningful difference, for the purposes of this discussion, though.
Being a "professional photographer" (why would a skilled, professional
photographer even need to use PhotoShop? I though PhotoShop was
primarily used to alter and correct the photographer's mistakes.) hardly
makes you an experienced computer technician.
BTW I seriously hope microsoft brings out a much better OS than Vista
Ultimate 64, otherwise I'm switching to some other OS.


Feel free. Good luck with that. (Although, if you can't learn to
handle Vista, I'd suggest you stick to something that requires even less
technical ability: get an Apple; you'd never manage Linux.)

For those defenders of the realm (microsoft) why is it that the majority
of businesses aren't using Vista?


"Majority?" Where do you get your numbers? Can you substantiate that
claim? No matter. I'd have thought that a "professional photographer,"
being in business, himself, would understand that no responsible
business is likely to do a wholesale migration to a new OS just because
it's the "newest and shiniest." Businesses upgrade primarily through
attrition: they don't invest in new technologies/software until it's
clear that the old equipment and OS can no longer meet their needs.


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Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
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Lester Stiefel

Bruce said:
So what? And why aren't you ranting at the makers of the clearly
poorly designed PhotoShop, rather than trying to blame Vista for another
product's inadequacies? And you still haven't offered any evidense to
suggest that these entries hinder performance in any way.




No meaningful difference, for the purposes of this discussion,
though. Being a "professional photographer" (why would a skilled,
professional photographer even need to use PhotoShop? I though
PhotoShop was primarily used to alter and correct the photographer's
mistakes.) hardly makes you an experienced computer technician.



Feel free. Good luck with that. (Although, if you can't learn to
handle Vista, I'd suggest you stick to something that requires even less
technical ability: get an Apple; you'd never manage Linux.)




"Majority?" Where do you get your numbers? Can you substantiate
that claim? No matter. I'd have thought that a "professional
photographer," being in business, himself, would understand that no
responsible business is likely to do a wholesale migration to a new OS
just because it's the "newest and shiniest." Businesses upgrade
primarily through attrition: they don't invest in new
technologies/software until it's clear that the old equipment and OS can
no longer meet their needs.
I had to work with apple because of a similar problem 2
yrs ago. I suggest you contact adobe on their site about
their installer in photoshop.
If it isn't removing the data in the registry, you may need
to edit the registry, hunting down photoshop by the the word
"photoshop". Remove all data that you can. Limited did not
remove its keys/values. the newer versions (essentials)
should remove most (if not all) of these.

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Snidley W.

Lester Stiefel said:
I had to work with apple because of a similar problem 2
yrs ago. I suggest you contact adobe on their site about
their installer in photoshop.

Nobody here said anything about problems uninstalling Photoshop.
 
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Ron

You criticize my ability as a professional photographer - on what grounds?

You really are showing your ignorance and stupidity.

Photoshop is also used to apply special effects, removal of pimples, correct
lens distortions etc.

Stick to what you know you are talking about!!

Ron
 

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