Unicode and MS-IE 6 on Win2K

[Fred Ma]

Hi,

I'm viewing math symbols at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols
and can't see them all (some are just boxes). That page
says to check http://www.alanwood.net/demos/ent4_frame.html
to see my unicode support. I can see most, but not all the
characters there. Using Lucida Sans Unicode for Latin
based fonts didn't help (I also tried changing the
encoding to Unicode UTF-8. When I searched for
"arial unicode MS" at www.microsoft.com, most articles
regarding its installation requires that one sets MS office
or Word or XP. So for those of us who don't use them, I
want to install unicode for MS-IE 6 (on Win2K). Eventually,
I found myself at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...techinfo/reskit/en-us/prork/prda_dcm_mezi.asp
where a table indicates that there is actually a multilanguage version
of Win2K. However, the section "Unicode Support" indicates that Win2K
in *general* uses Unicode. So I'm not sure whether I have unicode, or
if that is even the reason for the special characters not showing.

How can I find out whether my Win2K has unicode, or if I have to get a
speical multilanguage version of Win2K (not that I will, necessarily)?
If I don't have unicode, is there a way to get it? Is it really the
reason why the math symbols show up only as small boxes?

Thanks.

Fred
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[Elijah Landreth [MSFT]]

To install a font by dragging or pasting a font file

1.. Find the font file you want to install (on a floppy disk, network
share, or vendor?s Web site).
2.. Drag or paste the font into the \winnt\fonts directory, for example
c:\winnt\fonts.
To install fonts through Control Panel

1.. From the Start menu, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
2.. Double-click Fonts.
3.. Click File, and then click Install New Font.
4.. Browse your local computer or the network to find the location of the
font files to be installed.
5.. Select all fonts you want to install, and then click OK.
Fonts
Unicode is a 16-bit character set that contains all of the characters
commonly used in information processing, including Latin, Greek, Cyrillic,
Indic, Thai, Kana, and Hangul characters, punctuation marks, and ideographs.
Unicode is a standard supported by members of the Unicode Consortium.
Unicode is not a technology in itself, and does not solve international
engineering issues.

Unicode is language-independent, helping conserve space in the character
map. Characters are not assigned to specific languages, for example ?a? can
be used in French, German, or English. Similarly, a particular Han ideograph
might map to a character used in Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. Unicode may
not appear correct to viewers of a particular language because characters or
ideographs are abstracted. To solve this issue, use a font that recreates a
language?s particular representation of the character, rather than seeking
an alternate Unicode character.

Although the majority of the Unicode character space is used, approximately
a third of the 64,000 possible code points are still unassigned, allowing
for additional characters in the future, and for private use and
compatibility issues.



This is a great resource for font information:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.mspx

You can also try changing your view in IE to unicode.


--
Elijah Landreth [MSFT]
Enterprise Platform Support


This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[Fred Ma]

Hi, Elijah,

Thanks for the info. As I mentioned, I am still unsure from the conflicting
information I found whether unicode already comes with Win2K or
whether I need to get this multilanguage Win2K. I desribed that I
tried various encodings in MS-IE, and that most website hits refer to
setting up unicode for microsoft office apps (which is not my situation).

I am unable to find unicode on my HDD except in the subfolders for
specifica apps (matlab, cygwin, etc.); nor can I find any unicode
download site in a search of microsoft's website.

Thanks if anyone can clarify whether stock Win2K has unicode, and if
so, where. Otherwise, I would appreciate pointers as to where it can
be obtained (free, hopefully, since it is a world-wide standard). The
instructions below would then be very helpful in its installation.

Fred
--
Fred Ma
Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6

To install a font by dragging or pasting a font file

1.. Find the font file you want to install (on a floppy disk, network
share, or vendor?s Web site).
2.. Drag or paste the font into the \winnt\fonts directory, for example
c:\winnt\fonts.
To install fonts through Control Panel

1.. From the Start menu, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
2.. Double-click Fonts.
3.. Click File, and then click Install New Font.
4.. Browse your local computer or the network to find the location of the
font files to be installed.
5.. Select all fonts you want to install, and then click OK.
Fonts
Unicode is a 16-bit character set that contains all of the characters
commonly used in information processing, including Latin, Greek, Cyrillic,
Indic, Thai, Kana, and Hangul characters, punctuation marks, and ideographs.
Unicode is a standard supported by members of the Unicode Consortium.
Unicode is not a technology in itself, and does not solve international
engineering issues.

Unicode is language-independent, helping conserve space in the character
map. Characters are not assigned to specific languages, for example ?a? can
be used in French, German, or English. Similarly, a particular Han ideograph
might map to a character used in Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. Unicode may
not appear correct to viewers of a particular language because characters or
ideographs are abstracted. To solve this issue, use a font that recreates a
language?s particular representation of the character, rather than seeking
an alternate Unicode character.

Although the majority of the Unicode character space is used, approximately
a third of the 64,000 possible code points are still unassigned, allowing
for additional characters in the future, and for private use and
compatibility issues.

This is a great resource for font information:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.mspx

You can also try changing your view in IE to unicode.

--
Elijah Landreth [MSFT]
Enterprise Platform Support

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Hi,

I'm viewing math symbols at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols
and can't see them all (some are just boxes). That page
says to check http://www.alanwood.net/demos/ent4_frame.html
to see my unicode support. I can see most, but not all the
characters there. Using Lucida Sans Unicode for Latin
based fonts didn't help (I also tried changing the
encoding to Unicode UTF-8. When I searched for
"arial unicode MS" at www.microsoft.com, most articles
regarding its installation requires that one sets MS office
or Word or XP. So for those of us who don't use them, I
want to install unicode for MS-IE 6 (on Win2K). Eventually,
I found myself at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...techinfo/reskit/en-us/prork/prda_dcm_mezi.asp
where a table indicates that there is actually a multilanguage version
of Win2K. However, the section "Unicode Support" indicates that Win2K
in *general* uses Unicode. So I'm not sure whether I have unicode, or
if that is even the reason for the special characters not showing.

How can I find out whether my Win2K has unicode, or if I have to get a
speical multilanguage version of Win2K (not that I will, necessarily)?
If I don't have unicode, is there a way to get it? Is it really the
reason why the math symbols show up only as small boxes?

Thanks.

Fred
(e-mail address removed)

P.S. Posted to:
microsoft.public.win2000.general
microsoft.public.win2000.setup
alt.os.windows2000
--
Fred Ma
Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6

 

[Gary Smith]

Thanks if anyone can clarify whether stock Win2K has unicode, and if
so, where. Otherwise, I would appreciate pointers as to where it can
be obtained (free, hopefully, since it is a world-wide standard). The
instructions below would then be very helpful in its installation.

Windows 2000 comes with Unicode support built-in. There's nothing to add.
However, Unicode support does not mean that every present and future
Unicode character can be displayed on your system. Display is a function
of the available fonts. If you don't have access to Arial Unicode MS, you
might try one of the large fonts listed on Alan Wood's pages, particularly
Bitstream Cyberbit, Bitstream CyberCJK, or Code2000. You may need to add
a specialty font to get all of the amth symbols.

 

[Fred Ma]

Windows 2000 comes with Unicode support built-in. There's nothing to add.
However, Unicode support does not mean that every present and future
Unicode character can be displayed on your system. Display is a function
of the available fonts. If you don't have access to Arial Unicode MS, you
might try one of the large fonts listed on Alan Wood's pages, particularly
Bitstream Cyberbit, Bitstream CyberCJK, or Code2000. You may need to add
a specialty font to get all of the amth symbols.

Thanks for clarifying, Gary.

Fred

 

[Guest]

I talked to Juno, in my e-mail I used to be able to press ALT and numbers for German and Swedich words. with their new system, I can't do that any more. Insread of getting an a with dots on top, I get a question mark. What happened?Juno told me, to contact you. Help!!!

----- Fred Ma wrote: ----

Hi

I'm viewing math symbols a
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbol
and can't see them all (some are just boxes). That pag
says to check http://www.alanwood.net/demos/ent4_frame.htm
to see my unicode support. I can see most, but not all th
characters there. Using Lucida Sans Unicode for Lati
based fonts didn't help (I also tried changing th
encoding to Unicode UTF-8. When I searched fo
"arial unicode MS" at www.microsoft.com, most article
regarding its installation requires that one sets MS offic
or Word or XP. So for those of us who don't use them,
want to install unicode for MS-IE 6 (on Win2K). Eventually
I found myself a
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200.../techinfo/reskit/en-us/prork/prda_dcm_mezi.as
where a table indicates that there is actually a multilanguage versio
of Win2K. However, the section "Unicode Support" indicates that Win2
in *general* uses Unicode. So I'm not sure whether I have unicode, o
if that is even the reason for the special characters not showing

How can I find out whether my Win2K has unicode, or if I have to get
speical multilanguage version of Win2K (not that I will, necessarily)
If I don't have unicode, is there a way to get it? Is it really th
reason why the math symbols show up only as small boxes

Thanks

Fre
(e-mail address removed)

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