unbelievable this validation

[Guest]

hi all, purchased legitimate copy of winxp home ed. approx. 6 weeks ago .
about 3 weeks ago i purchased a new harddrive.
when i loaded windows on original hd , validation was succsessful. no
problems.
i switch harddrives and install winxp on same computer(only change is
harddrive) and i get message that i've used up blahj,blah,blah licencing blah
blah ,please use different product key!!!@$#^%
now ive, wasted a few hours trying to contact a msn rep but as soon as it
scans my sys it figures my os is not legal and therefore i'm not entitled to
assistance.

i guess there time is much more valuable than mine

hows that for service and support?

this is my home computer.no one else has had access to the disk and it has
not been installed on any other machine.
i do not understand why they keep slammin the door in my face.
any ideas folks???

thanks in advance
Schithawk(Brent)

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You'll need to "activate by phone" to obtain a
new activation code....takes about 5 minutes.

How to activate Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307890/en-us

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| hi all, purchased legitimate copy of winxp home ed. approx. 6 weeks ago .
| about 3 weeks ago i purchased a new harddrive.
| when i loaded windows on original hd , validation was succsessful. no
| problems.
| i switch harddrives and install winxp on same computer(only change is
| harddrive) and i get message that i've used up blahj,blah,blah licencing blah
| blah ,please use different product key!!!@$#^%
| now ive, wasted a few hours trying to contact a msn rep but as soon as it
| scans my sys it figures my os is not legal and therefore i'm not entitled to
| assistance.
|
| i guess there time is much more valuable than mine
|
| hows that for service and support?
|
| this is my home computer.no one else has had access to the disk and it has
| not been installed on any other machine.
| i do not understand why they keep slammin the door in my face.
| any ideas folks???
|
| thanks in advance
| Schithawk(Brent)

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Brent,

Did windows activation fail, or did validation fail?


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[steam3801]

hi all, purchased legitimate copy of winxp home ed. approx. 6 weeks ago .
about 3 weeks ago i purchased a new harddrive.
when i loaded windows on original hd , validation was succsessful. no
problems.
i switch harddrives and install winxp on same computer(only change is
harddrive) and i get message that i've used up blahj,blah,blah licencing blah
blah ,please use different product key!!!@$#^%
now ive, wasted a few hours trying to contact a msn rep but as soon as it
scans my sys it figures my os is not legal and therefore i'm not entitled to
assistance.

i guess there time is much more valuable than mine

hows that for service and support?

this is my home computer.no one else has had access to the disk and it has
not been installed on any other machine.
i do not understand why they keep slammin the door in my face.
any ideas folks???

You installed, and validated, WindowsXP on a machine of a certain
configuration. That configuration has now changed - it is not the
"same" computer (the box might be the same, the video card might be
the same, etc ... but the hard drive is NOT the same).

"An msn rep"? What's an msn rep? I assume you mean Microsoft phone
support.

 

[Guest]

thank u for responding . i much appreciate it. cannot activate or validate

 

[Guest]

so what ur saying is i have to ask permission to upgrade my equipment and
use my copy of windows . did i buy a copy of windows or am i
leasing/borrowing???maybe im confused ?dont take this personal but i feel ,
well i cant put it nicely. what businness is it of anyones what i do with my
sys.this should be illegal. chevy dont take my truck back or cause it not to
work if i decide to change a tire.
am i missing something?

 

[Alias]

You installed, and validated, WindowsXP on a machine of a certain
configuration. That configuration has now changed - it is not the
"same" computer (the box might be the same, the video card might be
the same, etc ... but the hard drive is NOT the same).

The hard drive only carries one point and should not trigger activation.

Alias

 

[Guest]

and whats with the "blinding flash of brilliance " crack?? u up half the
night working on that one???
i ask for a little help , u give me verbal abuse and belittle my intelect.
appreciate ur time ty
no reply neccessary

 

[steam3801]

and whats with the "blinding flash of brilliance " crack?? u up half the
night working on that one???

Could I politely suggest you acquaint yourself with the netiquette and
procedures of Usenet newsgroups - of which this forum is just one of
10s of thousands - and introduce yourself to the workings and
configurartion of a proper newsreader program designed for this
purpose.

When you are acquainted, you will see that part of the standard setup
processes is to be able to :-
a)create and input a standard introductory phrase to open all
responses (in fact, the opening quote I use is the standard default
phrase used by Forte Agent newsreader, one of the best.
b) a standard signature closing script you can also use on all
messages.

You've taken unnecessary umbrage at something of which you have little
understanding.

i ask for a little help , u give me verbal abuse and belittle my intelect.
appreciate ur time ty
no reply neccessary

A reply is necessary, as a matter of courtesy.

 

[steam3801]

so what ur saying is i have to ask permission to upgrade my equipment and
use my copy of windows . did i buy a copy of windows or am i
leasing/borrowing???maybe im confused ?dont take this personal but i feel ,
well i cant put it nicely.

You are preaching to the converted. I find no argument with your
argument, and in no way defend Microsoft.

However, that's the substance of the licence agreement that comes with
the product nad that you substantively agree to by installing the
product. Just think, how can MS tell that you haven't installed their
one-user licenced product on a second machine; how are they to know
it's just a different HDD in the same machine? To them, your "new"
electronic/on-line activation is just a 2nd attempt to use the product
which you agreed (by virtue of installing the product the first time
and activating it) to only install on one computer.

 

[antioch]

Some constructive use of grammar/syntax would go a long way to help. As far
as rhetoric is concerned - do you speak as you write I wonder.
Your post is bit like forum-speak!!! or chat-room for kids.
But then you are not a newsgroup user, I believe.
If you feel you have been insulted/belittled, stay around - it can only get
better.
You seemed to have ignored the first piece of help from Carey(others may
disagree).
I doubt you will get anymore.
Rgds
Antioch

 

[chris.fernald]

Perhaps we should a bit more courteous as English may not be this
person's first language.

 

[Alias]

Perhaps we should a bit more courteous as English may not be this
person's first language.

You're right about that! He lives in Australia!

Heh.

Alias, ducking while David Candy takes a swing.

 

[kurttrail]

Perhaps we should a bit more courteous as English may not be this
person's first language.

So? If I went to a German language newsgroup begging for help, I
wouldn't expect more courtesy just because it isn't my first language.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Brent,

You will need to activate by phone before you can validate.
1>Click on activate windows
2>choose activate by phone
3>choose your country
4>call the toll free number--DO NOT close the activation window at any point
during the process or the generated key will change
5>follow the phone prompts to enter the code displayed--this will fail and
you will be connected to a phone rep
6>No long explanations are required--simply state that you re-installed and
that the copy is only installed on one PC when asked
7> the phone rep will give you a 42 digit code to type in that corresponds
to the generated code on your screen

The process usually takes about 5 minutes. After you activate, the pc
*should* validate without problems.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[Larry Samuels]

You bought a license to use windows--you did not buy the software.
You do not have to ask permission to upgrade, but you do have to reactivate
your license.
Yes it sucks, but there are alternatives out there that don't require
jumping through hoops.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[Larry Samuels]

Unfortunately WPA sometimes has a hair trigger. It has been known to misfire
over simple changes.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[the guru]

so what ur saying is i have to ask permission to upgrade my equipment and
use my copy of windows . did i buy a copy of windows or am i
leasing/borrowing???

Actually, you don't buy any piece of software, you just buy a license
to use it on a particular computer. If the hardware has changed, the
software can't tell whether you have just upgraded the original
computer or installed it on a second machine.

Personally I think Microsoft makes enough money that they shouldn't put
people to all this trouble. Most people never upgrade a computer or
install Windows on another one, so the amount they lose by copying is
probably only a small percentage of their vast profits. Most shareware
authors, who need the money more than Microsoft, don't take such steps
to enforce installing on a single machine because they know that many
users won't buy software that employs hardware locking. But for most
software, you have a choice. The only choice you have, if you don't
want to use Windows, is to use Linux, which isn't something most people
want to do.

The PC Guru: www.the-pc-guru.com

 

[Alias]

Actually, you don't buy any piece of software, you just buy a license
to use it on a particular computer.

Yet every single store and even Microsoft itself says they are selling
software. Bait and switch comes to mind.

Alias

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

~SchitHawk~ in a blinding flash of
brilliance - wrote:

Could I politely suggest you acquaint yourself with the netiquette and
procedures of Usenet newsgroups - of which this forum is just one of
10s of thousands - and introduce yourself to the workings and
configurartion of a proper newsreader program designed for this
purpose.

A reply is necessary, as a matter of courtesy.

He doesn't know he's posting to usenet--he probably doesn't even know
what usenet is.

He thinks he's posting to a Microsoft "help forum."

There's an MVP in another of these groups who begins (actually ends,
because she top-posts) with: "After furious headscratching, so-and-so
asked..." with occasional curious results.

I suspect this guy has no clue how rude he appears, and it isn't even
his fault. I hope he takes your advice so this doesn't happen again.

rl