Ultimate Boot CD for Windows®

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REM

Mel said:
DrvImagerXP didn't use the high speed data transfer modes of the
integrated Hard Disk Controller.

Hmmm, there is this mention in the help file:

"DrvImagerXP attempts to save/restore partitions as fast as it can,
using "Fast Mode". It reads/writes 20MB at a time (thousands of
sectors at a time). This works great on hard drives that have no
sector problems. Most modern hard drives normally don't have sector
problems and should be able to run in Fast Mode. But, if DrvImagerXP
is in Fast Mode and encounters sector problems (it will let you know),
it does not know which sectors are bad. So for these hard drives, you
must run it in Slow Mode, so it can isolate the bad sectors and not
copy them or try to write to them. Slow Mode is a lot slower, but it
will get the job done. Future versions of DrvImagerXP will
incorporate a more intelligent scheme, mixing Fast and Slow modes."

My drive was pretty new, which might explain why I had better luck
that you guys. The only other thing that I can think of was that I
booted from the UBCD4Win to do the restore.
 
M

Mel

Hmmm, there is this mention in the help file:

"DrvImagerXP attempts to save/restore partitions as fast as it can,
using "Fast Mode". It reads/writes 20MB at a time (thousands of
sectors at a time). This works great on hard drives that have no
sector problems. Most modern hard drives normally don't have sector
problems and should be able to run in Fast Mode. But, if DrvImagerXP
is in Fast Mode and encounters sector problems (it will let you know),
it does not know which sectors are bad. So for these hard drives, you
must run it in Slow Mode, so it can isolate the bad sectors and not
copy them or try to write to them. Slow Mode is a lot slower, but it
will get the job done. Future versions of DrvImagerXP will
incorporate a more intelligent scheme, mixing Fast and Slow modes."

My drive was pretty new, which might explain why I had better luck
that you guys. The only other thing that I can think of was that I
booted from the UBCD4Win to do the restore.
I reviewed the Documentation before using DrvImagerXP, and then again
when it performed so slowly, but could find no way to make it function
faster. On the other hand Norton Ghost backed up the Drive in record
time, and does so every time it is run. Lexun has discontinued
development of DrvImagerXP, so their will be no future versions of
DrvImagerXP, and no longer has any reference to the program on their
website.
 
J

juliuslr

Getting back on subject title: I downloaded ubcd4win.exe and am at a
lost on how to create the bootable CD. Can anyone help, or point me to
an "ISO" image so I can just burn a bootable CD? When I double clicked
the ubcd4win.exe file, I get an extracted files and other folders in
the destination folder that I specified, but don't know what to do with
it afterwards. Thanks.
 
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roadster3043

(e-mail address removed) wrote in
Getting back on subject title: I downloaded ubcd4win.exe and am at
a lost on how to create the bootable CD. Can anyone help, or point
me to an "ISO" image so I can just burn a bootable CD? When I
double clicked the ubcd4win.exe file, I get an extracted files and
other folders in the destination folder that I specified, but
don't know what to do with it afterwards. Thanks.

Go here http://www.ubcd4win.com/howto.htm
 
M

Mel

Getting back on subject title: I downloaded ubcd4win.exe and am at a
lost on how to create the bootable CD. Can anyone help, or point me to
an "ISO" image so I can just burn a bootable CD? When I double clicked
the ubcd4win.exe file, I get an extracted files and other folders in
the destination folder that I specified, but don't know what to do with
it afterwards. Thanks.
The full version contains all the tools found in the basic version but
also adds the INSERT environment, a Linux distribution based on Knoppix.
INSERT contains many utilities for the Linux user, such as the ability
to mount most filesystems (including NTFS(rw) via Captive), ssh and
sshfs which allows you to mount a filesystem over ssh, Samba client and
server, IDS and testing tools such as Nessus and Snort, Rdesktop to
remote control Windows servers, VNC, Qtparted for re-partitioning,
iptables, and Monkey webserver are just a few of the tools found on the
UBCD version of INSERT. In addition, UBCD Insert also supports modules
which can be found at SourceForge that contain several more tools.

http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
 
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REM

(e-mail address removed) wrote:
Getting back on subject title: I downloaded ubcd4win.exe and am at a
lost on how to create the bootable CD. Can anyone help, or point me to
an "ISO" image so I can just burn a bootable CD? When I double clicked
the ubcd4win.exe file, I get an extracted files and other folders in
the destination folder that I specified, but don't know what to do with
it afterwards. Thanks.

This is a tutorial that I made after making a bunch of coasters :)

http://www.woundedmoon.org/UBCD/UBCD.html
 
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REM

I reviewed the Documentation before using DrvImagerXP, and then again
when it performed so slowly, but could find no way to make it function
faster. On the other hand Norton Ghost backed up the Drive in record
time, and does so every time it is run. Lexun has discontinued
development of DrvImagerXP, so their will be no future versions of
DrvImagerXP, and no longer has any reference to the program on their
website.

Just curious...

How were you booted?

Are you talking about the time to _backup_ a partition, rather than to
restore? If so, this is a documented shortcoming in that the program
backs up the entire partition, rather than just the existing data on
the partition.

Still, this is an operation I don't do very often. I can work around a
lengthy backup session (30 gigs for me) by walking outside and
smelling the roses :)

The documentation notes a few deficiencies and the site was down well
before I found the program. I think I found the author making a very
similar program in .NET, but my email went unanswered. It might be
someone else who got the code somehow, I dunno. They were almost
identical.
 
J

juliuslr

REM, I looked at your excellent website with screen shots for building
this CD and would you mind posting the ISO in your website for
downloading? It seemed that you have done a bunch of work to get
there, and I don't have some of the pieces needed to make it myself
(for exampel, my XP CD is an "upgrade version: and I know for sure that
it does not have SP2 patch. Thanks.
 
T

Thorsten Duhn

Hello,
REM, I looked at your excellent website with screen shots for
building this CD and would you mind posting the ISO in your
website for downloading? It seemed that you have done a bunch
of work to get there, and I don't have some of the pieces needed
to make it myself (for exampel, my XP CD is an "upgrade version:
and I know for sure that it does not have SP2 patch. Thanks.

one reason for such a enormous process of creating such a boot CD
is that the main part is not free. You should not post any Windows
XP operating system, that is Microsoft and by far not freeware.
Posting for download would be illegal.

Have you tried BartsPE already yourself? I works with a varities
of discs, I believe also with usual upgrades. And REMs page
explains his way of including SP2 into older XP setup versions.

Regards,
Thorsten
 
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REM

REM, I looked at your excellent website with screen shots for building
this CD and would you mind posting the ISO in your website for
downloading? It seemed that you have done a bunch of work to get
there, and I don't have some of the pieces needed to make it myself
(for exampel, my XP CD is an "upgrade version: and I know for sure that
it does not have SP2 patch. Thanks.

As the other post states, that would not be legal.

Luckily, the forum is great!

http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/

Check this thread:

http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2563

This guy appears to have gotten PE Builder to work by directing it to
the \i386 dir on his hard drive. You'll get some good answers to any
question that you ask.
 
K

Klaatu

I downloaded the .iso and burned a CD
and booted my Pentium 4 machine with it.

My question to anyone that has used it
is: Would this be considered a RESCUE
disk if my machine took a dump on me?

Are you sure you got an ISO of the "Ultimate Boot CD for Windows", or was
it instead the "Ultimate Boot CD"? These are two very different things.

Ultimate Boot CD: http://ubcd.sourceforge.net

Ultimate Boot CD for Windows: http://www.ubcd4win.com

I would think it illegal to make an ISO of UBCD4Win available for download.
 
M

Mel

"Ultimate Boot CD" and "Ultimate Boot CD for Windows" (which is the subject
of this thread) are 2 vastly different things. For the latter, go to
http://www.ubcd4win.com.
Some people seem to be intimidated by the thought of creating an
Ultimate Boot CD for Windows, and for them, a more viable solution may
be to download the Ultimate Boot CD (boots to linux, but supports NTFS)
ISO image, burn the image and Boot the CD without the hassle of creating
the Windows Version. But hey: What do I know? You know so much about the
process and contributed so much to this thread that I can hardly believe
that you didn't speakup much sooner and bless us with your thoughts and
guidance until now.
 
J

John S.

REM said:
SNIP

I have not tried to create an UBCD4Win with a recovery set of CDs, but
I'm pretty sure that you can.

Check this link for a tool to view the image files on your CDs. but if
you can find and copy the \i386 directory to your hard drive you can
make the CD.

http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2443


http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2526&hl=recovery+cd

Thanks (rather belatedly) for the info. (And thanks also to "Ben
Alias" and others for suggestions).

The references were useful in offering the clue that all the
necessary Widows files may be in the i386 folder.

In the end, all that was necessary was to point the Bart's
installation routine at c:\ when it asked for the Windows
installation CD. The routine immediately found the c:\i386
folder and copied the files from there.

I was elated at successfully making the botable disk, but a bit
deflated when I found that it didn't work properly, as it was
unable to "install the network adapters".

I googled till I was blue in the face, looking for a solution,
and found quite a lot of comment on the problem around January
2005, but nothing recently.

Tried the tricks reported in some of the googled results, on both
the current version of Barts, and the older version people were
talking about, but never succeeded.

So, now I have a pile of bootable Barts CDs for my IBM laptop,
but none of them have network support (which is obvioulsy
desirable if you're in trouble, and wanting to transfer files
across from another machine).

Anyway, thanks again for the assistance.

cheers, John S
 
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REM

(e-mail address removed) (John S.) wrote:
Thanks (rather belatedly) for the info. (And thanks also to "Ben
Alias" and others for suggestions).
The references were useful in offering the clue that all the
necessary Widows files may be in the i386 folder.
In the end, all that was necessary was to point the Bart's
installation routine at c:\ when it asked for the Windows
installation CD. The routine immediately found the c:\i386
folder and copied the files from there.
I was elated at successfully making the botable disk, but a bit
deflated when I found that it didn't work properly, as it was
unable to "install the network adapters".
I googled till I was blue in the face, looking for a solution,
and found quite a lot of comment on the problem around January
2005, but nothing recently.
Tried the tricks reported in some of the googled results, on both
the current version of Barts, and the older version people were
talking about, but never succeeded.
So, now I have a pile of bootable Barts CDs for my IBM laptop,
but none of them have network support (which is obvioulsy
desirable if you're in trouble, and wanting to transfer files
across from another machine).
Anyway, thanks again for the assistance.

http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm

Look for the Driver download. This is fairly new. There were problems
in that many drivers had the same name, but they managed to put
together a package that supports as much as possible!

I just downloaded and created a new CD last week and it works fine!

You'll have to run Pe Builder to create a new image after you extract
the driver sfx.
 
O

old jon

John S. said:
Thanks (rather belatedly) for the info. (And thanks also to "Ben
Alias" and others for suggestions).

The references were useful in offering the clue that all the
necessary Widows files may be in the i386 folder.

In the end, all that was necessary was to point the Bart's
installation routine at c:\ when it asked for the Windows
installation CD. The routine immediately found the c:\i386
folder and copied the files from there.

I was elated at successfully making the botable disk, but a bit
deflated when I found that it didn't work properly, as it was
unable to "install the network adapters".

I googled till I was blue in the face, looking for a solution,
and found quite a lot of comment on the problem around January
2005, but nothing recently.

Tried the tricks reported in some of the googled results, on both
the current version of Barts, and the older version people were
talking about, but never succeeded.

So, now I have a pile of bootable Barts CDs for my IBM laptop,
but none of them have network support (which is obvioulsy
desirable if you're in trouble, and wanting to transfer files
across from another machine).

Anyway, thanks again for the assistance.

cheers, John S
Rather belated advice for you John. When creating experimental CDs, use CDRW
discs. You can always test your software then, without wasting discs. you
just reformat the CDRW after you`ve created the disc you really want.
best wishes..OJ
 
K

Klaatu

But hey: What do I know? You know so much about the
process and contributed so much to this thread that I can hardly believe
that you didn't speakup much sooner and bless us with your thoughts and
guidance until now.

Wow, a smartass on usenet. How original.
 

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