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Chad Harris

Vista Hacked at Black Hat

http://news.com.com/2102-7349_3-6102458.html?tag=st.util.print

LAS VEGAS--While Microsoft talked up Windows Vista security at Black Hat, a
researcher in another room demonstrated how to hack the operating system.
Joanna Rutkowska, a Polish researcher at Singapore-based Coseinc, showed
that it is possible to bypass security measures in Vista that should prevent
unsigned code from running.
And in a second part of her talk, Rutkowska explained how it is possible to
use virtualization technology to make malicious code undetectable, in the
same way a rootkit does. She code-named this malicious software Blue Pill.

"Microsoft is investigating solutions for the final release of Windows Vista
to help protect against the attacks demonstrated," a representative for the
software maker said. "In addition, we are working with our hardware partners
to investigate ways to help prevent the virtualization attack used by the
Blue Pill."

At Black Hat, Microsoft gave out copies of an early Vista release for
attendees to test. The software maker is still soliciting feedback on the
successor to Windows XP, which is slated to be broadly available in January.

Rutkowska's presentation filled a large ballroom at Caesars Palace to
capacity, even though it was during the last time slot on the final day of
the annual Black Hat security confab here. She used an early test version of
Vista for her research work.

As one of the security measures in Vista, Microsoft is adding a mechanism to
block unsigned driver software to run on the 64-bit version of the operating
system. However, Rutkowska found a way to bypass the shield and get her code
to run. Malicious drivers could pose a serious threat because they run at a
low level in the operating system, security experts have said.

"The fact that this mechanism was bypassed does not mean that Vista is
completely insecure. It's just not as secure as advertised," Rutkowska said.
"It's very difficult to implement a 100 percent-efficient kernel
protection."

To stage the attack, however, Vista needs to be running in administrator
mode, Rutkowska acknowledged. That means her attack would be foiled by
Microsoft's User Account Control, a Vista feature that runs a PC with fewer
user privileges. UAC is a key Microsoft effort to prevent malicious code
from being able to do as much damage as on a PC running in administrator
mode, a typical setting on Windows XP.

"I just hit accept," Rutkowska replied to a question from the audience about
how she bypassed UAC. Because of the many security pop-ups in Windows, many
users will do the same without realizing what they are allowing, she said.

Microsoft has touted Vista as its most secure version of Windows yet. It is
the first operating system client to go through the company's Security
Development Lifecycle, a process to vet code and stamp out flaws before a
product ships.

"Windows Vista has many layers of defense, including the firewall, running
as a standard user, Internet Explorer Protected Mode, /NX support, and ASLR,
which help prevent arbitrary code from running with administrative
privileges," the Microsoft representative noted.

After the presentation on bypassing the driver shield, Rutkowska presented a
way to create the stealthy malicious software she code-named Blue Pill. The
technique uses Pacifica, a Secure Virtual Machine, from chipmaker Advanced
Micro Devices, to go undetected.

Blue Pill could serve as a backdoor for attackers, Rutkowska said. While it
was developed on Vista and AMD's technology, it should also work on other
operating systems and hardware platforms. "Some people suggested that my
work is sponsored by Intel, as I focused on AMD virtualization technology
only," she said, adding that is untrue.



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Mark D. VandenBeg

I have been following this story for some time. Basically, if you read more
about it, the "hack" is on any system running an AMD 64-bit cpu utilizing
their Pacifica virtualization. That includes Linux, among others. Also, if
you read through her blog, among other things, "Blue Pill" can easily be
used on an Intel chip, as well. The best news I have read was this:

"To stage the attack, however, Vista needs to be running in administrator
mode, Rutkowska acknowledged. That means her attack would be foiled by
Microsoft's User Account Control, a Vista feature that runs a PC with fewer
user privileges. UAC is a key Microsoft effort to prevent malicious code
from being able to do as much damage as on a PC running in administrator
mode, a typical setting on Windows XP."

My guess is that if Vista is run as it was intended, this will not even be
an issue. But for all those who "know better" well, I hope you do.

Her Blog:

http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2006/06/introducing-blue-pill.html

Mark
 
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Chad Harris

There will be many more hacks as time goes on into Vista, and IE7 is showing
the usual number of vulnerablities despite its security hype.

Right now, there is every indication from what I'm seeing, Marc on forums
that mainstream users are finding ways to ditch UAC, considering it just
too much hassle.

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Mark D. VandenBeg

And although guilty countless times in the past, MSFT will be wrongly
accused of things in the future because users turn-off the security measures
as a matter of "convenience." Fate, it seems, has a sense of irony...
 
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Chad Harris

Posted 11:50PM

They won't be wrongly accused of trying to censor me every post I've made
tonight except for one fix it post. The flack that plays hall monitor
sporadically on this group (probably an orange badge from Convergys or Volt
has tried to censor every comment I've made).

MSFT is so paranoid it wants to control every message to be pro MSFT; no
criticism tolerated is censoring my responses as it often tries to do.
This means they're really touch about the faltering Vista that MVPs are
coming out of the woodwork to tell them to hold up and to stop slapping crap
into builds.

At 9:24PM 8/24/06 I posted a response on the thread "vista push back
article" and the flack they assign to community who lacks the ability to
give any support help on the group and won't get off its ass to fix the
duplicate message post bug for months from the web site for this group tried
to cross of my message. It will never work. They will always get posted.

Yo MSFT--you can't censor people. You can't intimidate them. You sure as
hell can't control people who don't work for you. You can't keep people
from talking to each other either. I know Bill Gates ate with the Chinese
Communist Barbarian who kills people and jails them for what they believe;
but hopefully it wasn't catching.
Ask NBC where there reporter is right now. You and Yahoo function in China
to report MSN searches to their government, at great risk to the searcher
and Rob Scoble had the courage to blog on this while he was your best known
blogger, before he got smart enough to leave you, but I'm not in China.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tv+news+reporter+jailed+by+China

I'll be critical of MSFT anytime I think it's merited. Your sales are
going to drop dramatically if Vista is issued with current the current
levels of incapacity or those you shipped to TAP Wednesday. I talked to a
TAP tester today that said the same things I've been saying.

The 2 posts that were censored tonight were:
Re: Is RC1 out? 5487 Released to TAP Testers vista_5487.0.060726-1810

The link from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista (which the OP gave)
led to a date for RC1 "of August 2, 2006 +/-" in the sidebar (right), which
has now been removed from the page. The reference to RC1 led me to the blog
I quoted from in my first reply.

Colin Barnhorst

Response posted at 8:20PM

The date for 5487 may have been removed from the Wikipedia page--(MSFT gets
a real tight sphincter on that information being released). I guess
because they know they have never been as secretive as Jobs and Apple, and
have Mac Jobs envy and maybe another type of envy that has become a
household word.

Since they are becoming less and less transparent and more secretive and
disseminating information about a year later than they should on Vista,
maybe MSFT has little elves from Nancy Anderson's office (Deputy General
Counsel) forcing people to take references down--the way they made Chris
Perillo take his torrent page down when all he was doing was facilitating
download speed with Beta 2.

What hasn't happened is that the TAP testers who installed 5487 on their
boxes on August 2 have not removed it, nor have they opted out of this phase
of the TAP program. The one I was with today hasn't--he's having a good time
testing.

Why are they busting their ass to keep when these builds drop a secret?
They never succeed and frankly, who gives a shit whether people know which
acronym has the build. Why the house mommy warning people "boy if you let
the unwashed pheasants know all you Beta babies who are whining are getting
another build tonite, I'll whack you off the Beta and you'll never ever see
the light of a Beta.?" The same people that post are also invited to Redmond
to interview all the time.

One more sign of the times: hypocrisy breeding hypocrisy like bunnies in
heat.

CH

II on the thread "vista push back article" to Colin's post

"You may want to pull back just a bit on your view of the current status of
Vista. In a private conversation I was in today I learned that the
outstanding active bugs are currently in the hundreds, not the thousands,
and that the next build released to testers will show a lot more improvement
over 5472 than most folks here seem to expect. In particular, a lot of the
bugs being reported in 5472 had already been fixed at the time 5472 released
but had not passed QA for a CTP release (testing was still in progress) but
have now been checked into later builds. According to my source, MS is
seriously on track for RC1 this quarter and rtm in November with a product
that will pass QA properly"

I responded:

Re: I wouldn't believe anything from MSFT Vista on the current status of
Vista

In particular, a lot of the bugs being reported in 5472 had already been
fixed at the time 5472 released but had not passed QA for a CTP release
(testing was still in progress) but have now been checked into later
builds"

They always dish that line of crap as a mantra. That's why they won't list
the bugs fixed as public. They want to throw out meaningless numbers of
bugs fixed which mean nothing.

I wouldn't believe anything they say on Beta chats particularly about bugs
or the stuatus of the Beta. There has been much said that is not true all
last year and this year. The bug count is like Jimmy Buffet's
Margueriteville. It's whatever they want to make up that it is.

That BS is yet another reason why they don't want to make bug fixes and
categories public on Connect.

It's all part of a propaganda machine.What they said wouldn't reassure
anyone. They are in trouble with Vista and they know it. The faster they
have the guts to admit it and quit slapping it together and fully start
fixing problems the better. They are also sacrificing the quality of
functionality in too many areas.

Vista got quite a build up during the foreplay before the Beta started; and
it ain't all that and may never be. It reminds me of the bullshit about
Iraq and freedom that has turned into a systemic board certified death
bathmoney hemorrhage fiasco.

Be sure and ask them why if Device Manager has been around since Windows
95, and it purports to diagnose the health of drivers ***it's totally
worthless for doing that and the Device Team wouldn't get off it's ass to
fix it in Vista even though that's one of the major purposes for Device
Manager. They say it may be fixed in Blackcomb/Vienna/whatever the hell.

And it doesn't really matter what the number of bugs are, it's the quality
and the magnitude of them and their position in the operating system. The
head fake they persistently do on the number of bugs (it should have gotten
through their skulls is not near as significant as what the problems
actually are).

Whatever your source told you, if they shove it out by the purported shedule
they will shove out considerable crap. There are teams there going nuts
over the concessions they are making. It's a huge metaphor for "settleling"
and if they value a quality OS they will hold Vista up for at least three to
five months.

CH
 

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