Totally Different Daylight Savings problem and question

[SWalters]

I have a very odd situation here. After daylight savings time occured my
appts are all moved ahead one hour. I found the root of this problem but
have no clue how to fix it...

My System time is fine. It is set to the right TimeZone and also has the
Daylight Savings Time box checked. Now when i go to the TimeZone option in
Outlook (2000, XP, and 2003) it is also setup right but the time in the
greyed out field shows one hour ahead of what the system clock says.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

 

[Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]]

Check the Time Zone settings in Outlook again:

Select the TOOLS menu
Select OPTIONS...
Click the CALENDAR OPTIONS... button
Click the TIME ZONE... button

There is a little check mark in the time zone area
for DST (Daylight Savings Time). Check to see if that
should be on or off.

--
Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]

I have a very odd situation here. After daylight savings time occured my
appts are all moved ahead one hour. I found the root of this problem but
have no clue how to fix it...

My System time is fine. It is set to the right TimeZone and also has the
Daylight Savings Time box checked. Now when i go to the TimeZone option in
Outlook (2000, XP, and 2003) it is also setup right but the time in the
greyed out field shows one hour ahead of what the system clock says.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

 

[SWalters]

Check the Time Zone settings in Outlook again:

Select the TOOLS menu
Select OPTIONS...
Click the CALENDAR OPTIONS... button
Click the TIME ZONE... button

There is a little check mark in the time zone area
for DST (Daylight Savings Time). Check to see if that
should be on or off.

I did that already. I did find a couple PC's that had that checkbox
unchecked. Here is the crazy thing...

I have Outlook 2000 on the server since it is an Exchange server. When I
check that section of outlook well let me give you all situations...

When it is checked the time near that checkbox is one hour ahead of the
system time. If I uncheck it it actually goes back 2 hours and also
changes the system time back 1 hour because it automatically makes the
DST setting for the system unchecked.

Ok...now...I go back into the system time and check the box for Auto DST
to put the time back where it should be. I now go back into Outlook and
that box is unchecked and showing one hour prior to the system time as
it should. If I check that box it shows exactly the way it should be but
I then close out of Outlook then go back in and the box is back to
unchecked.

This is the reason I say that this is a completley odd situation and
this isn't just a matter of checking or not checking a box...there is
something wrong here.

Thanks again and appreciate any additional help you can provide.

 

[Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]]

I do not know what version of Exchange your are using
but I can tell you that there is definately contention problems
having Outlook on the same box as your Exchange. Not
a suggested setup in any case. I would NEVER have Outlook
on the same machine as my Exchange server. Is this
necessary for some reason?

I would also check the permissions level and ability to
change the necessary registry and/or certain system folders
that hold the information.

--
Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]

Check the Time Zone settings in Outlook again:

Select the TOOLS menu
Select OPTIONS...
Click the CALENDAR OPTIONS... button
Click the TIME ZONE... button

There is a little check mark in the time zone area
for DST (Daylight Savings Time). Check to see if that
should be on or off.

I did that already. I did find a couple PC's that had that checkbox
unchecked. Here is the crazy thing...

I have Outlook 2000 on the server since it is an Exchange server. When I
check that section of outlook well let me give you all situations...

When it is checked the time near that checkbox is one hour ahead of the
system time. If I uncheck it it actually goes back 2 hours and also
changes the system time back 1 hour because it automatically makes the
DST setting for the system unchecked.

Ok...now...I go back into the system time and check the box for Auto DST
to put the time back where it should be. I now go back into Outlook and
that box is unchecked and showing one hour prior to the system time as
it should. If I check that box it shows exactly the way it should be but
I then close out of Outlook then go back in and the box is back to
unchecked.

This is the reason I say that this is a completley odd situation and
this isn't just a matter of checking or not checking a box...there is
something wrong here.

Thanks again and appreciate any additional help you can provide.

 

[SWalters]

I do not know what version of Exchange your are using
but I can tell you that there is definately contention problems
having Outlook on the same box as your Exchange. Not
a suggested setup in any case. I would NEVER have Outlook
on the same machine as my Exchange server. Is this
necessary for some reason?

I would also check the permissions level and ability to
change the necessary registry and/or certain system folders
that hold the information.

This is on a SBS2000 server. I have Outlook on there because it makes it
much easier for me to remotely support this customer. It also makes it
much easier when I go through the "spam" email box I setup as a "catch
all" for GFI Mail Essentials. I have never seen a case where having
Outlook on the Exchange server would cause any harm. Do you have any?
I'm not saying this to be sarcastic because I always said the same then
another Engineer in my office said he puts it on all his Exchange
servers and has never had any problems.

As for permissions, I am logging on this server as the main
Administrator which has full rights to eveyrthing on this system.

Any other ideas and thank you for the quick responses.

 

[Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]]

266418 - XCCC: Microsoft Does Not Recommend Installing Exchange
2000 Server and Outlook 2000 or Later on the Same Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;266418

Someone I know once wrote:
"I've been driving with my car on two wheels for a year now and
nothing bad happened. I don't understand why I should drive on four
wheels when it works on two."

--
Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]

I do not know what version of Exchange your are using
but I can tell you that there is definately contention problems
having Outlook on the same box as your Exchange. Not
a suggested setup in any case. I would NEVER have Outlook
on the same machine as my Exchange server. Is this
necessary for some reason?

I would also check the permissions level and ability to
change the necessary registry and/or certain system folders
that hold the information.

This is on a SBS2000 server. I have Outlook on there because it makes it
much easier for me to remotely support this customer. It also makes it
much easier when I go through the "spam" email box I setup as a "catch
all" for GFI Mail Essentials. I have never seen a case where having
Outlook on the Exchange server would cause any harm. Do you have any?
I'm not saying this to be sarcastic because I always said the same then
another Engineer in my office said he puts it on all his Exchange
servers and has never had any problems.

As for permissions, I am logging on this server as the main
Administrator which has full rights to eveyrthing on this system.

Any other ideas and thank you for the quick responses.

 

[SWalters]

266418 - XCCC: Microsoft Does Not Recommend Installing Exchange
2000 Server and Outlook 2000 or Later on the Same Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;266418

Someone I know once wrote:
"I've been driving with my car on two wheels for a year now and
nothing bad happened. I don't understand why I should drive on four
wheels when it works on two."

Ok...I appreciate the note. But do you beleive this is the root of this
problem? Beyond the Outlook installation I really need help with this
matter and do not want to sway too far from the subject at hand as I cannot
find any solution withint knowledgesbases, newsgroups, or just about any
Internet search.

Thanks,

 

[Branden]

Nikki,
I would like to know if Microsoft is working on a fix for
this problem or if they might already have one. I
appreciate your responses to the daylight savings
problems, however I don't think this is fixing most of
the problems It certainly did not fix mine. The only way
I could fix mine was to remove the daylight savings check
box on the 2 computers that were having the trouble and
then moving the time ahead manually, and I am sure I
don't have to tell you that this is just a work around
and not a fix.

 

[Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]]

It still sounds to me like perhaps a policy is in use or
else it sounds like a permissions problem in saving
the changes.

You may want to try asking this on the Exchange Admin
list to see if they have any better ideas.

--
Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]

266418 - XCCC: Microsoft Does Not Recommend Installing Exchange
2000 Server and Outlook 2000 or Later on the Same Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;266418

Someone I know once wrote:
"I've been driving with my car on two wheels for a year now and
nothing bad happened. I don't understand why I should drive on four
wheels when it works on two."

Ok...I appreciate the note. But do you beleive this is the root of this
problem? Beyond the Outlook installation I really need help with this
matter and do not want to sway too far from the subject at hand as I cannot
find any solution withint knowledgesbases, newsgroups, or just about any
Internet search.

Thanks,

 

[Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]]

I do not think there is a fix, only work arounds.

There isn't really anything to fix. If you make appointments
at a certain time and Outlook is told in its settings that you
live in a particular timezone then Outlook has entered the
appointment just the way you told it too.

If you change your zone, Outlook assumes that you have
moved to a different zone and adjusts your appointments
accordingly. This is a feature.

There is an article that outlines a way around this situation:
OL2000: Changing the Time Zone Without Changing Appointment Times:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=197480

--
Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]


Nikki,
I would like to know if Microsoft is working on a fix for
this problem or if they might already have one. I
appreciate your responses to the daylight savings
problems, however I don't think this is fixing most of
the problems It certainly did not fix mine. The only way
I could fix mine was to remove the daylight savings check
box on the 2 computers that were having the trouble and
then moving the time ahead manually, and I am sure I
don't have to tell you that this is just a work around
and not a fix.

 

[SWalters]

It still sounds to me like perhaps a policy is in use or
else it sounds like a permissions problem in saving
the changes.

I would normally agree with you regarding the permissions thing but if I do
things in different orders it will save the changes. I recently had the
admin go to all workstations and make sure they are all in the same
timezone and also have the DST checkbox checked in the system AND Outlook
sections. She did find a couple which were not configured correctly. I will
remotely get in and see if this fixed their issues or not.

Thanks for the replies but I do think this is something out of the ordinary
DST issues if this continues to happen.

Oh no Group Policies are in place as I had loaded this workstation myself.

We'll see I guess...thanks again.

 

[Mary]

Did you get any responses? I have exact same problem and
since OEM refuse to give MS $35 to tell me they screwed
up...