Toggle html in email client

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Rod

Are there freeware email clients besides Foxmail that let you toggle html
on/off ?
And does anyone tired to download Pegasus lately ? I downloaded it from
three mirrors, but got a corrupted download message when trying to run it.
Any help appreciated.
 
S

Sparx

In (e-mail address removed), this is what Rod had to say :
| Are there freeware email clients besides Foxmail that let you toggle html
| on/off ?
| And does anyone tired to download Pegasus lately ? I downloaded it from
| three mirrors, but got a corrupted download message when trying to run it.
| Any help appreciated.


Yes. Thunderbird allows you to do so with the addition of the BUttons!
extension. There's also a button available to toggle loading of remote
images.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Buttons Extension XPI + INFO -
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions/#buttons

--
Regards,

Sparky

ONE OF THE MANY MURPHY'S LAWS OF COMBAT : It is generally inadvisable to
eject directly over the area you just bombed.
 
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Paul Urquhart

Rod said:
Are there freeware email clients besides Foxmail that let you toggle html
on/off ?
And does anyone tired to download Pegasus lately ? I downloaded it from
three mirrors, but got a corrupted download message when trying to run it.
Any help appreciated.

IIRC, the Mail and News component of the Mozilla suite does this.
 
R

Rod

In (e-mail address removed), this is what Rod had to say :
| Are there freeware email clients besides Foxmail that let you toggle
| html on/off ?
Yes. Thunderbird allows you to do so with the addition of the BUttons!
extension. There's also a button available to toggle loading of remote
images.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Buttons Extension XPI + INFO -
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions/#buttons

Thanks, but Thunderbird is a bit too heavy for my ancient system.
 
R

Rod

IIRC, the Mail and News component of the Mozilla suite does this.

Thanks, but Mozilla (same goes for Thunderbird) is a bit too heavy on
resources for my old system.
 
C

CharlieDontSurf

Thanks, but Thunderbird is a bit too heavy for my ancient system.

Calypso has HTML toggle:

http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/calypso/

I don't know how much it uses in resources, but it's no lighter than
Foxmail at 4.12 megs, so I don't know it'll be useful to you. Also, the
page mentions that it "has some minor issues running under Windows 2000
and Windows XP".
 
J

jo

Rod said:
Are there freeware email clients besides Foxmail that let you toggle html
on/off ?

I assume you are saying that you only want to read an HTML mail
occasionally.
In which case you could consider associating HTML with an external app.

Very fast: ViewHTML (in a DOS box)

http://theabsolute.net/sware/#viewhtml

Slower, but still fast and efficient: NavRoad HTML viewer

http://www.faico.net/navroad/index.html

This is negligibly crippled, non expiring shar*ware

Slowest, but still fast and efficient and an excellent app to have on
any system: Notetab lite (a button press strips HTML tags)

http://www.notetab.com/
 
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Rod

Calypso has HTML toggle:

http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/calypso/

I don't know how much it uses in resources, but it's no lighter than
Foxmail at 4.12 megs, so I don't know it'll be useful to you. Also, the
page mentions that it "has some minor issues running under Windows 2000
and Windows XP".

Thanks charlie,

I'm trying Calypso now, and actually it's quite light on resources, and as
I'm on win98SE, the 'minor issues' are no problem for me. I would prefer to
be able to toggle HTML by pressing a toolbar button, but for now Calypso is
a keeper.
 
R

Rod

I assume you are saying that you only want to read an HTML mail
occasionally.

Your aaumption was correct.
In which case you could consider associating HTML with an external
app.

Thanks for the idea, but not exactly what I was looking for. I reaaly would
like it all in one program, preferably with a toggle button.
I could open them in my browser also.
Very fast: ViewHTML (in a DOS box)

http://theabsolute.net/sware/#viewhtml

Slower, but still fast and efficient: NavRoad HTML viewer

http://www.faico.net/navroad/index.html

This is negligibly crippled, non expiring shar*ware

Slowest, but still fast and efficient and an excellent app to have on
any system: Notetab lite (a button press strips HTML tags)

http://www.notetab.com/

These seem useful links for a lot of people, thanks for posting.
 
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Paul Blarmy

On 19 Sep 2004 14:36:38 GMT, Rod wrote...
I'm trying Calypso now, and actually it's quite light on resources, and as
I'm on win98SE, the 'minor issues' are no problem for me. I would prefer to
be able to toggle HTML by pressing a toolbar button

You can. Right click the toolbar, choose customize and add the HTML
button to your toolbar.
 
R

Rod

On 19 Sep 2004 14:36:38 GMT, Rod wrote...


You can. Right click the toolbar, choose customize and add the HTML
button to your toolbar.

I feel like a complete idiot here, can't find it, what version are we
talking about ? I'm using 3.3 here.
 
R

Rod

On 19 Sep 2004 14:36:38 GMT, Rod wrote...


You can. Right click the toolbar, choose customize and add the HTML
button to your toolbar.

I felt like an idiot for a moment, couldn't find it at first, got it now.
Thanks for the info.

On my search for email-clients I found Kaufman Mail Warrior, which seems to
be abandoned. I found it at :http://www.encoderx.co.uk/email/ (bottom of
page).
It doesn't do HTML, but I was really impressed with it, 733 Kb stand-
alone, nice interface, and fast as lightning, I'm defintely keeping this
one.
 
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CharlieDontSurf

Rod, I just found this Calypso FAQ:

http://www.ouisoft.com/calypsofaq.htm

One thing you should know, if you haven't found out already, is that
Calypso uses IE's rendering engine to view HTML. In other words, it has
the same sort of script vulnerabilites as Outlook, so take care when
toggling HTML on.
On my search for email-clients I found Kaufman Mail Warrior, which seems to
be abandoned. I found it at :http://www.encoderx.co.uk/email/ (bottom of
page).
It doesn't do HTML, but I was really impressed with it, 733 Kb stand-
alone, nice interface, and fast as lightning, I'm defintely keeping this
one.

Yes, that's a good one. I used it for most of a year before purchasing
The Bat, my current mail client.
 
R

Rod

Rod, I just found this Calypso FAQ:

http://www.ouisoft.com/calypsofaq.htm

Thanks for the URL Charlie.
One thing you should know, if you haven't found out already, is that
Calypso uses IE's rendering engine to view HTML. In other words, it
has the same sort of script vulnerabilites as Outlook, so take care
when toggling HTML on.

So I noticed.
Yes, that's a good one. I used it for most of a year before purchasing
The Bat, my current mail client.

I'm so impressed with it, I'm considering to forget the whole idea of this
thread, take Jo's advice on opening the html in a html-viewer and keeping
Mail Warrior as my primary email client. This guy/girl packed a lot of
features in this small stand-alone program.
 
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omega

Rod said:
I'm so impressed with it, I'm considering to forget the whole idea of this
thread, take Jo's advice on opening the html in a html-viewer and keeping
Mail Warrior as my primary email client. This guy/girl packed a lot of
features in this small stand-alone program.

For fast html stripping, you might want to check this utility (from the
author of CopyWriter), which has the convenience of operating straight
from your clipboard:

http://home.planet.nl/~gaale131/download/Remove_HTML_Tags.zip
http://home.planet.nl/~gaale131/cw_utilities_1.htm


.. . . .

Another utility in my mind was a tray utility which, as I remember it,
has a menu option to open your clipboard and render the html with your
browser, and another menu option to stip the html of your clipboard and
render the text with notepad. I'm going from memory only, from the first
time I checked it out. At this moment, I'm having trouble re-figuring
out how to use it. Maybe I am in dummy mode or something. The doc is a
little sparse, not much beyond mentioning the functions.

o View HTML - Opens the clip file in your html browser.
o View Text - Opens a plain text version of clipfile in NotePad.

Next barrier is that there no longer seems to be any homesite for it.
Below are some basics of its identity from the readme that I have, in
case anyone knows of a web location. (Note on the name - there is at
least one other program, different entities, with same name.)

Name: ClipTray
Archive: clipt13.zip
Date: 27 December 1999
Copyright: (c)1999 Business Software
Web: http://www.bsoft.ic24.net/
Author: Eddie Bond

I cannot say I am heartily recommending this. That would be silly
until I can remember how to use it... I swear, it did work, somehow
or other, when I'd tested it previously...

Finally I should mention too that it is tainted with a small amount
of advertising debris. Specifically: the tray menu includes an entry
for visiting their (defunct) website; and secondly, the html output
clipfile inserts their name and logo.
 
R

Rod

For fast html stripping, you might want to check this utility (from
the author of CopyWriter), which has the convenience of operating
straight from your clipboard:

http://home.planet.nl/~gaale131/download/Remove_HTML_Tags.zip
http://home.planet.nl/~gaale131/cw_utilities_1.htm

Nice site
Another utility in my mind was a tray utility which, as I remember it,
has a menu option to open your clipboard and render the html with your
browser, and another menu option to stip the html of your clipboard
and render the text with notepad. I'm going from memory only, from the
first time I checked it out. At this moment, I'm having trouble
re-figuring out how to use it. Maybe I am in dummy mode or something.
The doc is a little sparse, not much beyond mentioning the functions.

o View HTML - Opens the clip file in your html browser.
o View Text - Opens a plain text version of clipfile in NotePad.

Next barrier is that there no longer seems to be any homesite for it.
Below are some basics of its identity from the readme that I have, in
case anyone knows of a web location. (Note on the name - there is at
least one other program, different entities, with same name.)

Name: ClipTray
Archive: clipt13.zip
Date: 27 December 1999
Copyright: (c)1999 Business Software
Web: http://www.bsoft.ic24.net/
Author: Eddie Bond

I cannot say I am heartily recommending this. That would be silly
until I can remember how to use it... I swear, it did work, somehow
or other, when I'd tested it previously...

Finally I should mention too that it is tainted with a small amount
of advertising debris. Specifically: the tray menu includes an entry
for visiting their (defunct) website; and secondly, the html output
clipfile inserts their name and logo.

Thank you for your time and effort of explaining this omega.
I'll check it out. It could come in handy, as I definetely decided to keep
Mail Warrior as my primary email client.
Thanks again.
 
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omega

Rod said:
Nice site

Everything there is "green" (no registry, no external files).

Latest version of CopyWriter is green too. The earlier one used registry -
but the latest one has evolved beyond it. Well, green on program run, at
least. Taking a glance at the download name (CopyWriterSetup.exe), looks
that this is one of those situations where you do have to first suffer
through an installer and delete its debris, before you then gain access
to a clean program.

[...]
Please erase all of that. I've now rtfm'd enough to learn that my
incompetent memory was playing a trick on me. Turns out the prog has no
special handling of raw html as input. So that program I was discussing
would be irrelevant here. Please forgive.
Thank you for your time and effort of explaining this omega.
I'll check it out. It could come in handy, as I definetely decided to keep
Mail Warrior as my primary email client.
Thanks again.

Saving such mails you want rendered to disk seems like an amount of labor.
But if that is the method you might be taking habit of, perhaps it would
be appropriate to then launch those with a small offline viewer such as
OHV <http://roman.stratopoint.com>, or OB1 <www.offbyone.com>. The
second one, OB1, it's not strictly an offline browser, but on my system
I rendered it such by putting some random stuff in its proxy config
dialog. This since I don't like it trying to pull down referenced imgs
and such from the net, while I am viewing offline pages.

Another strategy is running a text editor to paste into -- one that has
both a strip html command, and also an execute browser command. Jo had
mentioned one such: Fookes Notetab. I'd go for Fookes Mini-Notepad.
It's a lot lighter, does have the two functions, and its low max-text
ceiling should not become a problem for this usage.
http://www.fookes.com/software/mininote.htm
 
R

Rod

Everything there is "green" (no registry, no external files).

Green is good, my favorite software-colour.
Latest version of CopyWriter is green too. The earlier one used
registry - but the latest one has evolved beyond it. Well, green on
program run, at least. Taking a glance at the download name
(CopyWriterSetup.exe), looks that this is one of those situations
where you do have to first suffer through an installer and delete its
debris, before you then gain access to a clean program.

Greenable is nice to, allthough in my hands it mostly turns out to be
unusable.
[...]
Please erase all of that. I've now rtfm'd enough to learn that my
incompetent memory was playing a trick on me. Turns out the prog has
no special handling of raw html as input. So that program I was
discussing would be irrelevant here. Please forgive.

Erased and forgiven. At least you read the manual, could be a gender thing,
but that's the last thing I'll do in any situation.:)
Saving such mails you want rendered to disk seems like an amount of
labor. But if that is the method you might be taking habit of, perhaps
it would be appropriate to then launch those with a small offline
viewer such as OHV <http://roman.stratopoint.com>, or OB1
<www.offbyone.com>. The second one, OB1, it's not strictly an offline
browser, but on my system I rendered it such by putting some random
stuff in its proxy config dialog. This since I don't like it trying to
pull down referenced imgs and such from the net, while I am viewing
offline pages.

My laziness told me to use my standard browser (K-meleon) to view the
occasional html-mail I get. So far my laziness was right, it's working to
my satisfaction.
BTW, OB1 is lying around on a floppy here somewhere. Great lttle app which
I hardly ever use.
Another strategy is running a text editor to paste into -- one that
has both a strip html command, and also an execute browser command. Jo
had mentioned one such: Fookes Notetab. I'd go for Fookes
Mini-Notepad. It's a lot lighter, does have the two functions, and its
low max-text ceiling should not become a problem for this usage.
http://www.fookes.com/software/mininote.htm

My laziness told me not to go there. But thanks again, it looks like a nice
program, even when it's a little crippled.
Thansk for your time and explanations Karen. Much appreciated.
 

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