"To All, From Gail.....Thanks For Everything!"

G

Guest

As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program, but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business

I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the next one. Ugh :)

Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious, professional critiquing

Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you
 
S

Steve Easton

I like it. ;-)
sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.

2 things I would change.

1. Each page has a link to itself
2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.

Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
image and then use the image.

Just a thought.

If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

Gail said:
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
next one. Ugh :)
 
T

Tina Clarke

Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am
ready for some serious, professional critiquing.
Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!

Need alt tags on the graphics
Need text links
Need Privacy Policy
Word art does not always display well in all browsers take a snapshot and
save as a jpg.
Too much white space make a fluid template of 100%
Use sans serif fonts serif fonts are hard to read on the screen
Have you pasted from word? If so you need to lose that formatting
Styles could go into a sheet reducing page load
same with javascripts
You need to work on the SEO join a free SEO Class like
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SEO_Techniques/

Using meta tags h1 tags and employing a few of the above standards will
bring up your rating in the search engines, your top for biker burials but
no where in biker funerals
Don't call your homepage home page.
You need to get link backs, see about linking to biker sites, for your type
of site it looks to be incredibly easy to get linkbacks with other related
biker sites from just the quick google I did.

Include testimonials on your site
instead of package say services

hth Tina
 
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Looks good, you're off to a great kick-start :)



| As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program, but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
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| I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the next one. Ugh :)
|
| Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious, professional critiquing.
|
| Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
|
 
W

Wally S

A suggestion on your English: things like "biker" and "biker community"
should not be in quotation marks. That's a general English rule, but it's
even more important on a site devoted to bikers. Quotation marks are for
quotations.

Wally S

Gail said:
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my
site for quite some time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to
everyone that helped me through this challenging time. I am glad that I now
have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a
photo editing program, but I need to take a short break from all of this. I
was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but am really glad I attempted to
do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on
what I have done. This is my first one and I really would like some honest
feedback so that I know what I should do for the next one. Ugh :)
Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am
ready for some serious, professional critiquing.
 
S

Sandy

It looks great! I am having problems creating my site,
and is not as easy as I thought. Did you use a template,
or did you start from scratch?
Thanks.
Sandy
-----Original Message-----
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been
struggling with creating my site for quite some time
now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that
helped me through this challenging time. I am glad that
I now have my site up and running; however, I know that
it could still use a little bit of work, especially with
the images. I will have to look into a photo editing
program, but I need to take a short break from all of
this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but am
really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is
the owner of this business.
I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some
professional input on what I have done. This is my first
one and I really would like some honest feedback so that
I know what I should do for the next one. Ugh :)
Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me
everyone, I am ready for some serious, professional
critiquing.
 
S

Steve Easton

in line

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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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Tina Clarke said:
ready for some serious, professional critiquing.

Need alt tags on the graphics

right click the image and select image ot picture properties, in the pop up enter text that will
explain the image.
Need text links
Maybe. Javascript image swaps run in all modern browsers
Need Privacy Policy
good idea, need to let folks know threir personal info won't be sold. A privacy page can be a
simple text one.
Word art does not always display well in all browsers take a snapshot and
save as a jpg.
Too much white space make a fluid template of 100%
Use sans serif fonts serif fonts are hard to read on the screen
Looked fine to me. I use "Comic Sans-serif" myself.
Have you pasted from word? If so you need to lose that formatting
Nope, it's word art.
Styles could go into a sheet reducing page load
The style is FP generated "on the fly"
same with javascripts
So is the javascript generated "on the fly" worry about changing it to an external javascript when
you become more familiar with javascript
You need to work on the SEO join a free SEO Class like
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SEO_Techniques/
Using meta tags h1 tags and employing a few of the above standards will
bring up your rating in the search engines, your top for biker burials but
no where in biker funerals
Agree

Don't call your homepage home page.
You need to get link backs, see about linking to biker sites, for your type
of site it looks to be incredibly easy to get linkbacks with other related
biker sites from just the quick google I did.
Agree
Include testimonials on your site
when you have some, kind of hard for a new business.
instead of package say services

Agreed
 
G

Guest

I guess I should be careful what I ask for. Just kidding! I am so glad for all of these suggestions. Some I don't understand and will have to ask for help but I will work on each one and take care of business. My question to you Steve is should I just download IrfanView? That way (as long as I can understand the program) I could not only fix my logo I created with WordArt I could also resize my images.

I must say that I was caught off guard with such a gracious offer. I may ask you to do it for me, but I always like to try things on my own, first. What do ya think

Thank you so very much

----- Steve Easton wrote: ----

I like it. ;-
sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point

2 things I would change

1. Each page has a link to itsel
2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page

Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers
You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as a
image and then use the image

Just a thought

If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds


-
Steve Easto
Microsoft MVP FrontPag
95isaliv
This site is best viewed...........
........................with a compute

Gail said:
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite som
time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challengin
time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program
but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal bu
am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this businessmy first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for th
next one. Ugh :-
 
S

Steve Easton

Download and install the *free* IrfanView from www.irfanview.com

It doesn't take long to learn it at all, and it is a very verstile image editing program.
It will resize or resample images ( resample is better ) and change image formats, bmp to
jpg or gif, jpg to bmp or gif and so forth.
It is not however an image "creation" program and only works with pre-existing images.

( it also plays audio and video files and will create screen saver slide shows )

To use it to edit screen shots, open it, then open your web page, press the Print Screen
button, maximize IrfanView, click edit and then paste. Then simply place the mouse
cursor, at the top left of the part you want to "cut" out and then drag down and right.
Click edit > cut, click edit > clear display, click edit > paste, and then save your new
image.

Do the alt text for the images and the privacy page as Tina selected.
Worry about external javascript and style files at some point in the future.

Check out www.searchenginewatch.com for tips on how to get search engines to pick up the
site.

;-)

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer
Gail said:
I guess I should be careful what I ask for. Just kidding! I am so glad for all of
these suggestions. Some I don't understand and will have to ask for help but I will work
on each one and take care of business. My question to you Steve is should I just download
IrfanView? That way (as long as I can understand the program) I could not only fix my
logo I created with WordArt I could also resize my images.
I must say that I was caught off guard with such a gracious offer. I may ask you to do
it for me, but I always like to try things on my own, first. What do ya think?
 
G

Guest

I was hoping to tackle a few of these issues this evening but I can't seem to accomplish even one. I guess the reason I didn't do any of these suggested improvements is because I didn't know how to do them in the first place. So, in order to make sure that I follow the rules/guidelines of this community, should I post each issue separately with a new thread?
Thanks
P.S. - I actually know how to do the alt tags on the graphics. However, I would like to make all changes at once and then publish. I will ask one question for now and then see what the correct procedure is for asking questions.

1. "Each page has a link to itself." How do I correct this? When I created my interactive buttons, I did a link for each button on every page. Is that the problem? Please advise

----- Steve Easton wrote: ----

I like it. ;-
sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point

2 things I would change

1. Each page has a link to itsel
2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page

Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers
You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as a
image and then use the image

Just a thought

If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds


-
Steve Easto
Microsoft MVP FrontPag
95isaliv
This site is best viewed...........
........................with a compute

Gail said:
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite som
time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challengin
time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program
but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal bu
am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this businessmy first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for th
next one. Ugh :-
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Gail,

Having pages with links to themselves is not a major issue, it is just a personal preference to not
have them by some developers.

If you are sharing your navigation between your page by using shared borders or the FP Include Page
component and not using FP navigation, then you can't change this, unless you want to get into
server-side scripting, like ASP, PHP, etc..

Personally, I would not recommend switching to FP navigation, is you are currently not using it, as
you have more flexibility by not using it.

You can post issue individually or in a single post.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Gail said:
I was hoping to tackle a few of these issues this evening but I can't seem to accomplish even one.
I guess the reason I didn't do any of these suggested improvements is because I didn't know how to
do them in the first place. So, in order to make sure that I follow the rules/guidelines of this
community, should I post each issue separately with a new thread?
Thanks.
P.S. - I actually know how to do the alt tags on the graphics. However, I would like to make all
changes at once and then publish. I will ask one question for now and then see what the correct
procedure is for asking questions.
1. "Each page has a link to itself." How do I correct this? When I created my interactive
buttons, I did a link for each button on every page. Is that the problem? Please advise.
 
C

chris leeds

if that's your first site you've done a great job. I like the concept too.

you can post your questions as a group. (probably best to do like 3 at a
time)

If you're looking for a nice and easy to learn graphics program you might
want to look into photo impact 8 from www.ulead.com there should be a free
trial.

I couldn't see what you meant by "each page has a link to itself" but I did
notice this http://www.bikerburials.com/images/Bar026.gif
you could easily replace it with a <hr> (styled to match the color of the
surrounding graphics) and you'd be in better shape there. it can be
accessed from insert/ horizontal line. I use .css for styling them and do
it by hand so maybe someone could tell you where that can be done through
the FrontPage interface.

HTH

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spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
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Gail said:
I was hoping to tackle a few of these issues this evening but I can't seem
to accomplish even one. I guess the reason I didn't do any of these
suggested improvements is because I didn't know how to do them in the first
place. So, in order to make sure that I follow the rules/guidelines of this
community, should I post each issue separately with a new thread?
Thanks.
P.S. - I actually know how to do the alt tags on the graphics. However,
I would like to make all changes at once and then publish. I will ask one
question for now and then see what the correct procedure is for asking
questions.
1. "Each page has a link to itself." How do I correct this? When I
created my interactive buttons, I did a link for each button on every page.
Is that the problem? Please advise.
----- Steve Easton wrote: -----

I like it. ;-)
sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.

2 things I would change.

1. Each page has a link to itself
2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.

Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
image and then use the image.

Just a thought.

If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
creating my site for quite some
time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite
stressed over this whole ordeal but
am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
input on what I have done. This is
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Chris,

The link issue is basically when you have a navigation such as:

Home
About Us
Contact Us

and then when you are on Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still active.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
C

chris leeds

I'd ignore it. I've got some menus that are like that. I've never
considered it a problem.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Agreed!.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
G

Guest

I see there is a concurrence that I should not worry about each page having a link to itself. I reckon this happened because of the way in which I did my interactive buttons, which if I am following you right is my navigation structure. I didn't use shared borders or the FP Include Page component. However, inquiring minds (such as mine) want to know what it means "When you are on Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still active."

I see the extra "empty" space at the bottom of the Home page that should be changed. However, it is really weird. This must have been part of the original site because it appears to be a table and I didn't create any tables during my updating. However, when I click in that table (extra space) it just darkens the table above it. I can't figure out how to delete it. By the way, I am not familiar at all with HTML. However, I guess I could go to "Code" view and delete the table that way, right? Just not sure what I would delete not knowing how to read HTML

If I shouldn't call my homepage home page, what should I call it

Thanks again

----- Thomas A. Rowe wrote: ----

Chris

The link issue is basically when you have a navigation such as

Hom
About U
Contact U

and then when you are on Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still active

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G

Guest

Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like the fact that some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.

Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"

Thanks

----- Steve Easton wrote: ----

I like it. ;-
sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point

2 things I would change

1. Each page has a link to itsel
2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page

Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers
You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as a
image and then use the image

Just a thought

If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds


-
Steve Easto
Microsoft MVP FrontPag
95isaliv
This site is best viewed...........
........................with a compute

Gail said:
As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite som
time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challengin
time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use
little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program
but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal bu
am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this businessmy first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for th
next one. Ugh :-
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

You should be able to create your logo in PhotoShop or view it in IE, then copy and pasted into
PhotoShop, then save as GIF or JPG and then import it back into FP and insert on your page.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Gail said:
Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened
out. I don't like the fact that some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that
is the first thing they see.
 
C

chris leeds

I don't see anything wrong with calling the home page the home page.

for your table problem just remove the (height="921") from line 165 or so.
it's not an extra table it's that you've got a nested table in a cell that
is specified to be 921px high.

HTH


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spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
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Gail said:
I see there is a concurrence that I should not worry about each page
having a link to itself. I reckon this happened because of the way in which
I did my interactive buttons, which if I am following you right is my
navigation structure. I didn't use shared borders or the FP Include Page
component. However, inquiring minds (such as mine) want to know what it
means "When you are on Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still
active."
I see the extra "empty" space at the bottom of the Home page that should
be changed. However, it is really weird. This must have been part of the
original site because it appears to be a table and I didn't create any
tables during my updating. However, when I click in that table (extra
space) it just darkens the table above it. I can't figure out how to delete
it. By the way, I am not familiar at all with HTML. However, I guess I
could go to "Code" view and delete the table that way, right? Just not sure
what I would delete not knowing how to read HTML.
 
C

Craig Schiller

Gail said:
I see there is a concurrence that I should not worry about each page having a link to itself. I reckon this happened because of the way in which I did my interactive buttons, which if I am following you right is my navigation structure. I didn't use shared borders or the FP Include Page component. However, inquiring minds (such as mine) want to know what it means "When you are on Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still active."

It means that if a visitor goes to your site and goes to the Contact Us page, and then for some reason clicks on the Contact Us link, the page will reload. This is unnecessary since the visitor is already there. That's why many of us eliminate the hyperlink (not the button, just the active hyperlink attached to the button) from the button that leads to the page a user is already on.

If you use FP's built-in navigation component, you'll notice this is the way its built-in link bars work, too.

Craig
 

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