To Alias a question about another posting.

[Greg Ro]

To Alias question a about another posting.

Sorry to use your name in the subject.

In another thread you stated

[I called MS and they said they dropped that requirement last year but
hadn't updated their EULAs. In Spain, it is almost impossible to buy
anything but an OEM.]


What requirement are you talking about and is it just Spain?

Thank You,

Greg Ro

 

[Alias]

To Alias question a about another posting.

Sorry to use your name in the subject.

Not my name

In another thread you stated

[I called MS and they said they dropped that requirement last year but
hadn't updated their EULAs. In Spain, it is almost impossible to buy
anything but an OEM.]


What requirement are you talking about and is it just Spain?

Thank You,

Greg Ro

The requirement for hardware when purshasing an OEM version of XP. The
number I called three times, and spoke to three different people, was a USA
phone number, although it is not sure that I spoke to an American. The
number was for activating XP. I posted the number and old Carey and Bruce
wouldn't call it and only continued to copy and paste what Carey has been
spamming us with today.

What they did say is that it could only be installed on one computer, even
though, in theory, that one computer could be updated to the point where all
the components were replaced and it would still be a legit installation.

Alias

 

[Guest]

If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the original, and
you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this is considered a "new
computer" and the OEM license is no longer considerd valid.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

To Alias question a about another posting.

Sorry to use your name in the subject.

Not my name

In another thread you stated

[I called MS and they said they dropped that requirement last year but
hadn't updated their EULAs. In Spain, it is almost impossible to buy
anything but an OEM.]


What requirement are you talking about and is it just Spain?

Thank You,

Greg Ro

The requirement for hardware when purshasing an OEM version of XP. The
number I called three times, and spoke to three different people, was a USA
phone number, although it is not sure that I spoke to an American. The
number was for activating XP. I posted the number and old Carey and Bruce
wouldn't call it and only continued to copy and paste what Carey has been
spamming us with today.

What they did say is that it could only be installed on one computer, even
though, in theory, that one computer could be updated to the point where all
the components were replaced and it would still be a legit installation.

Alias

 

[Don Burnette]

Hmm, just where does it state that the motherboard defines it as a new
computer?
What if the oem version of XP was bought with a case, and you kept the same
case putting a new motherboard in??

Assuming of course, it is not a bios locked oem version that permanently
ties it to the motherboard.

Don Burnette

If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the
original, and you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this
is considered a "new computer" and the OEM license is no longer
considerd valid.

To Alias question a about another posting.

Sorry to use your name in the subject.

Not my name

In another thread you stated

[I called MS and they said they dropped that requirement last year
but hadn't updated their EULAs. In Spain, it is almost impossible
to buy anything but an OEM.]


What requirement are you talking about and is it just Spain?

Thank You,

Greg Ro

The requirement for hardware when purshasing an OEM version of XP.
The number I called three times, and spoke to three different
people, was a USA phone number, although it is not sure that I spoke
to an American. The number was for activating XP. I posted the
number and old Carey and Bruce wouldn't call it and only continued
to copy and paste what Carey has been spamming us with today.

What they did say is that it could only be installed on one
computer, even though, in theory, that one computer could be updated
to the point where all the components were replaced and it would
still be a legit installation.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Horsepucky. Changed one the other day.

Alias

If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the original,
and
you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this is considered a "new
computer" and the OEM license is no longer considerd valid.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

To Alias question a about another posting.

Sorry to use your name in the subject.

Not my name

In another thread you stated

[I called MS and they said they dropped that requirement last year but
hadn't updated their EULAs. In Spain, it is almost impossible to buy
anything but an OEM.]


What requirement are you talking about and is it just Spain?

Thank You,

Greg Ro

The requirement for hardware when purshasing an OEM version of XP. The
number I called three times, and spoke to three different people, was a
USA
phone number, although it is not sure that I spoke to an American. The
number was for activating XP. I posted the number and old Carey and Bruce
wouldn't call it and only continued to copy and paste what Carey has been
spamming us with today.

What they did say is that it could only be installed on one computer,
even
though, in theory, that one computer could be updated to the point where
all
the components were replaced and it would still be a legit installation.

Alias

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

OEM software is licensed to the complete computer system,
but the motherboard is considered the "essence" of the
computer system. Therefore, all internal components,
except for the motherboard, can be replaced before
a "new" computer has been created. If you replaced your
customer's motherboard due to an upgrade (no defect), the
customer should have acquired a new software license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Don Burnette" wrote:

| Hmm, just where does it state that the motherboard defines it as a new
| computer?
| What if the oem version of XP was bought with a case, and you kept the same
| case putting a new motherboard in??
|
| Assuming of course, it is not a bios locked oem version that permanently
| ties it to the motherboard.
|
| Don Burnette

 

[Greg Ro]

If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the original, and
you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this is considered a "new
computer" and the OEM license is no longer considerd valid.

Now that I know is incorrect Carey.
Microsoft has never stated that you can't replace a motherboard and
can not use the same oem copy you have.

Even other mvp's have stated the above


Greg Ro

 

[Guest]

I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

 

[NoStop]

begin  trojan.vbs ... On Friday 19 August 2005 06:56 pm, Carey Frisch
[MVP] had this to say in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the original,
and you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this is considered a
"new computer" and the OEM license is no longer considerd valid.

I can buy an OEM copy of XP today, by purchasing a computer fan with the OEM
copy. So what the hell are you talking about? Does that mean that down the
road if I was to replace that fan, I'd have to go and purchase another OEM
copy?

 

[Dimple Wathen]

Post the EULA or a link to it or an excerpt from it. (Please don't cop
out and say read the one that came with the box.)

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Microsoft does not sell OEM versions to customers. OEM versions
of Windows XP were meant to be sold to System Builders. OEM
versions are licensed to the very first computer it is installed upon,
namely the motherboard is the determining factor. If you change to
a different motherboard, you have a new computer, thus the OEM
license ceases to exist. If you wish to avoid this issue, then only
use a "Retail Version" of Windows XP.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

| Post the EULA or a link to it or an excerpt from it. (Please don't cop
| out and say read the one that came with the box.)

 

[Guest]

No. Only if you replacement the motherboard with a different model.

 

[NotMe]

I build my own and use OEM, I always buy it with the case as the qualifying
hardware.
As far as I am concerned, as long as I use the case, the license is valid,
even if it's 20 motherboards later.

 

[kurttrail]

Hmm, just where does it state that the motherboard defines it as a new
computer?
What if the oem version of XP was bought with a case, and you kept
the same case putting a new motherboard in??

Assuming of course, it is not a bios locked oem version that
permanently ties it to the motherboard.

Not in the EULA, even of BIOS-Locked OEM versions.

It isn't even in the System Builders Agreement.

It is stated on a password-protected web page, but no one, not System
Builders, nor End Users agree to abide with that password-protected
page, nor is there any mention of that page in the the EULA or the
System Builders Agreement.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[kurttrail]

Microsoft does not sell OEM versions to customers. OEM versions
of Windows XP were meant to be sold to System Builders. OEM
versions are licensed to the very first computer it is installed upon,
namely the motherboard is the determining factor. If you change to
a different motherboard, you have a new computer, thus the OEM
license ceases to exist. If you wish to avoid this issue, then only
use a "Retail Version" of Windows XP.

Big cop out!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[kurttrail]

OEM software is licensed to the complete computer system,
but the motherboard is considered the "essence" of the
computer system. Therefore, all internal components,
except for the motherboard, can be replaced before
a "new" computer has been created. If you replaced your
customer's motherboard due to an upgrade (no defect), the
customer should have acquired a new software license.

Carey is just full of sh*t, and should be treated like Renfield. He is
just Dracula's henchman, with absolutely no mind of his own.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Alias]

OEM software is licensed to the complete computer system,
but the motherboard is considered the "essence" of the
computer system. Therefore, all internal components,
except for the motherboard, can be replaced before
a "new" computer has been created. If you replaced your
customer's motherboard due to an upgrade (no defect), the
customer should have acquired a new software license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Horsepucky. My EULA says "hardware" and does not define what constitutes
hardware. I changed a motherboard the other day with no problems. You should
research before you post blatant misinformation designed to get people to
buy another XP they don't need.

Alias

 

[Alias]

I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

NO, he isn't; you are!

Alias

 

[Alias]

More horsepucky.

Alias

 

[Alias]

No. Only if you replacement the motherboard with a different model.

Polly want a cracker? You are wrong. Be a mature adult and admit it.

Alias