TIF Folder

[Li'l Roberto]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting the
files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files, I can then right click on the [seemingly] empty folder,
choose properties it shows directories and files still in there ?.
Also, if I do a command based virus scan I see folders being scanned
within the Content.IE5 folder that don't correspond to those that are
shown in the directory tree in Explorer. I have show all files plus
protected files enabled.
I ask because I have a user with thousands of files in his TIF folder that
I am unable to delete

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[SimonG Ltd.]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting the
files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files, I can then right click on the [seemingly] empty folder,
choose properties it shows directories and files still in there ?.
Also, if I do a command based virus scan I see folders being scanned
within the Content.IE5 folder that don't correspond to those that are
shown in the directory tree in Explorer. I have show all files plus
protected files enabled.
I ask because I have a user with thousands of files in his TIF folder that
I am unable to delete

Maybe the files and directories are hidden . . . have you changed your
folder properties to show hidden and system files ?

cheers, SimonG

 

[SimonG Ltd.]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting the
files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files, I can then right click on the [seemingly] empty folder,
choose properties it shows directories and files still in there ?.
Also, if I do a command based virus scan I see folders being scanned
within the Content.IE5 folder that don't correspond to those that are
shown in the directory tree in Explorer. I have show all files plus
protected files enabled.
I ask because I have a user with thousands of files in his TIF folder that
I am unable to delete

Maybe the files and directories are hidden . . . have you changed your
folder properties to show hidden and system files ?

cheers, SimonG

 

[Wesley Vogel]

They are hidden files.

Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK | General tab |
Click Delete Files | OK | {This cleans C:\Documents and
Settings\YourNameHere\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files}
Click Delete Files | Check: Delete all offline content | OK | {Yes one more
time! This cleans C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5}

 

[Li'l Roberto]

They are hidden files.

Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK | General tab |
Click Delete Files | OK | {This cleans C:\Documents and
Settings\YourNameHere\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files}
Click Delete Files | Check: Delete all offline content | OK | {Yes one more
time! This cleans C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5}

Wes
thanks for the info, I will try it and get back to you with the
results later

rgds
Li'l Roberto

In

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting
the files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files, I can then right click on the
[seemingly] empty folder, choose properties it shows directories
and files still in there ?. Also, if I do a command based virus
scan I see folders being scanned within the Content.IE5 folder
that don't correspond to those that are shown in the directory
tree in Explorer. I have show all files plus protected files
enabled.
I ask because I have a user with thousands of files in his TIF
folder that I am unable to delete

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Alex Nichol]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting the
files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files, I can then right click on the [seemingly] empty folder,
choose properties it shows directories and files still in there ?.

Display of the TIF in Explorer also shows (for reasons obscure to me)
the Cookie files that are in a different folder altogether (C:\Documents
and Settings\username\Cookies). Also the physical structure of TIF,
as seen by a Command Prompt DIR command, has a folder Content.IE5 with
at least four subfolders. Files are held in these and referred to
indirectly through an index.dat file that will also be present, so as to
give more efficient access: Explorer conceals this mechanism

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Smoke and mirrors.

Since....[[The Temporary Internet Files (or cache) folder contains Web page
content that is stored on your hard disk for quick viewing.]] I would
suspect that the pointers for cookies is to speed up our web viewing.

If you delete a cookie from the TIF folder, it disappears from the Cookies
folder right away. If you delete a cookie from the Cookies folder it does
not disappear from the TIF folder. If you double click on that (deleted)
cookie in the TIF folder, you get a [[Windows cannot find 'C:\
Documents and Settings\Name\Cookies\that cookie']] message.

[[These files are pointers to the actual cookies that are located in the
Windows\Cookies folder. To retain the association between these pointers and
the actual cookie files, they are not deleted when you empty the Temporary
Internet Files folder. However, if you manually delete a cookie file from
the Temporary Internet Files folder, both the pointer to the Cookies folder
and the cookie file located in the Cookies folder are deleted.]]

Emptying Temporary Internet Files Folder Leaves Cookies Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];158769#appliesto

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting
the files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files, I can then right click on the
[seemingly] empty folder, choose properties it shows directories
and files still in there ?.

Display of the TIF in Explorer also shows (for reasons obscure to me)
the Cookie files that are in a different folder altogether
(C:\Documents and Settings\username\Cookies). Also the physical
structure of TIF, as seen by a Command Prompt DIR command, has a
folder Content.IE5 with at least four subfolders. Files are held in
these and referred to indirectly through an index.dat file that will
also be present, so as to give more efficient access: Explorer
conceals this mechanism

 

[Li'l Roberto]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting the
files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files, I can then right click on the [seemingly] empty folder,
choose properties it shows directories and files still in there ?.

Display of the TIF in Explorer also shows (for reasons obscure to me)
the Cookie files that are in a different folder altogether (C:\Documents
and Settings\username\Cookies). Also the physical structure of TIF,
as seen by a Command Prompt DIR command, has a folder Content.IE5 with
at least four subfolders. Files are held in these and referred to
indirectly through an index.dat file that will also be present, so as to
give more efficient access: Explorer conceals this mechanism

Alex
This exactly how I am seeing the problem, but WHY does windows allow
such a build up of temp files in this way ?.
The user has something in the order of 12,000 files squirreled away
in this TIF folder making a command line AV scan impossibly long [over
3hrs ].
Also is it possible to delete these files ?

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[ted s.]

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting
the files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files, I can then right click on the
[seemingly] empty folder, choose properties it shows directories
and files still in there ?.

Display of the TIF in Explorer also shows (for reasons obscure to me)
the Cookie files that are in a different folder altogether
(C:\Documents and Settings\username\Cookies). Also the physical
structure of TIF,
as seen by a Command Prompt DIR command, has a folder Content.IE5
with
at least four subfolders. Files are held in these and referred to
indirectly through an index.dat file that will also be present, so
as to give more efficient access: Explorer conceals this mechanism

Alex
This exactly how I am seeing the problem, but WHY does windows
allow such a build up of temp files in this way ?.
The user has something in the order of 12,000 files
squirreled away in this TIF folder making a command line AV scan
impossibly long [over 3hrs ].
Also is it possible to delete these files ?

rgds
Li'l Roberto

Try Index.dat Suite from, http://www.it-mate.co.uk/support/idsuite.asp

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Li'l Roberto,

I posted one of the *correct* ways to delete these files.
Another one is....
Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Make sure that
Temporary Internet Files is checked | OK |

Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310312

==============

You can delete these files from a command prompt, but I don't see the need
to.

You can see Content.IE5.

You probably have to have Hidden files and folders set to display this.

Start | Run | Type: %TEMP% | OK |
Click the Folders button to show the tree view in
the left hand pane | Click the [+] Temporary Internet Files |
Click the [+] Content.IE5 | Click any of the random named folders

To display Hidden files and folders

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files
Apply | OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are not
typical items.]]
=============

Or....

Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK |
Highlight: Temporary Internet Files | View Files button |
Opens...
C:\Documents and Settings\YourNameHere\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5
==========

Here's another way....
you can delete the contents of Content.IE5.

1) Open Internet Explorer and click on Tools
2) Click on Internet Options
3) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes the
temporary internet files {This clears the folder seen when you...
IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Settings button | View Files
button | C:\Documents and Settings\YourNameHerel\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files}
5) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
{Yes, one more time}
6) Check the box Delete all offline content {this one clears out Content.IE5
C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5}
7) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes the
temporary internet files

Safely Delete the Temporary Internet Files
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

clear out temporary files and delete cookies.
http://www.pchell.com/support/privacy.shtml

How to Delete Cookie Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];278835

How to Delete the Contents of the Temporary Internet Files Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];260897

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Can some one explain why is it that after [supposedly] deleting
the files from C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files, I can then right click on the
[seemingly] empty folder, choose properties it shows directories
and files still in there ?.

Display of the TIF in Explorer also shows (for reasons obscure to me)
the Cookie files that are in a different folder altogether
(C:\Documents and Settings\username\Cookies). Also the physical
structure of TIF, as seen by a Command Prompt DIR command, has a
folder Content.IE5 with at least four subfolders. Files are held in
these and referred to indirectly through an index.dat file that will
also be present, so as to give more efficient access: Explorer
conceals this mechanism

Alex
This exactly how I am seeing the problem, but WHY does windows
allow such a build up of temp files in this way ?.
The user has something in the order of 12,000 files
squirreled away in this TIF folder making a command line AV scan
impossibly long [over 3hrs ].
Also is it possible to delete these files ?

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Li'l Roberto]

Li'l Roberto,

I posted one of the *correct* ways to delete these files.
Another one is....
Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Make sure that
Temporary Internet Files is checked | OK |

Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310312

Wesley, Alex & Ted
thank you all for your input, I have tried all the utilities Wesley
mentioned without any luck.
Ted S's program index.dat suite did the trick - thanks Ted ! get it
here
http://www.it-mate.co.uk/support/idsuite.asp

Hopefully some one from MS will take note of this, we should be able
to remove ALL tmp files without third party utilities.

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Wesley Vogel]

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's program
to do it.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's program
to do it.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's program
to do it.

 

[Li'l Roberto]

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's program
to do it.

I have no problems with my own systems either Wesley, this situation comes
from a customers PC
FWTW I have never seen such a hugh amount of TIF files [over 12,000 in
his case].
Appart from being able to flush them all , I am curious as to the
mechanism that allows this build up to occur.

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Sadly, Roberto, MS doesn't seem to point the average user to Disk Cleanup or
how to clear TIFs from the Internet Properties page. I didn't know about
checking Delete all offline content until about a year ago and have been
using Windows for years.

Of course, if this was set automatically, people would scream that they lost
all their files. You can set one batch of TIFs to delete when IE is closed
by selecting that option in...
IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab. But it's not set by default.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's
program to do it.

I have no problems with my own systems either Wesley, this situation
comes from a customers PC
FWTW I have never seen such a hugh amount of TIF files [over
12,000 in his case].
Appart from being able to flush them all , I am curious as to
the mechanism that allows this build up to occur.

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Li'l Roberto]

Sadly, Roberto, MS doesn't seem to point the average user to Disk Cleanup or
how to clear TIFs from the Internet Properties page. I didn't know about
checking Delete all offline content until about a year ago and have been
using Windows for years.

Of course, if this was set automatically, people would scream that they lost
all their files. You can set one batch of TIFs to delete when IE is closed
by selecting that option in...
IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab. But it's not set by default.

Wes
I am aware of all the methods you speak of, and again I have no problems
with removing tmp files from my own systems.
This TIF problem seems to be in the same vein as Messenger - the
average user hasn't a clue how to remove it from their system, you
probably are aware of the fix [edit sysoc.inf ].
But these things should be transparent IMO, MS should address them.
rant over <BG>

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Roberto,

What can I say?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In

Sadly, Roberto, MS doesn't seem to point the average user to Disk
Cleanup or how to clear TIFs from the Internet Properties page. I
didn't know about checking Delete all offline content until about
a year ago and have been using Windows for years.

Of course, if this was set automatically, people would scream that
they lost all their files. You can set one batch of TIFs to delete
when IE is closed by selecting that option in...
IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab. But it's not set by
default.

Wes
I am aware of all the methods you speak of, and again I have no
problems with removing tmp files from my own systems.
This TIF problem seems to be in the same vein as Messenger -
the average user hasn't a clue how to remove it from their
system, you probably are aware of the fix [edit sysoc.inf ].
But these things should be transparent IMO, MS should address them.
rant over <BG>

rgds
Li'l Roberto

 

[ted s.]

I have no problem cleaning TIFs and don't have to use Steven Burn's
program to do it.

You and millions of others, but I didn't know this was about you. The
original poster had a problem that could be fixed with a free, open source,
third party program. Why this prompted you to flaunt your deletion
expertise is a mystery.

The Index.dat Suite is a valuable program that will do much more than delete
temporary internet files.