This one's for the experts: Problems restoring files from backup.

[Guest]

I thought I'd try posting this again. I have a very specific question that's
stumped our IT people. If I can see a listing for a file (including a file
size) in a .bkf file, does this mean that it has actually been backed up, or
is this just a file name?

I have tried restoring a specific file listed in my .bkf file, and I get a
message saying that the file was skipped during restore. It is possible that
this file was skipped during an incremental backup (because volume shadow was
disabled and file was locked or in use at the time of backup), but why is it
that I can see the file in the .bkf?? There is no reason that I can think of
why the file was skipped during backup (it wasn't open or locked), and there
is no indication in the .bkf file that the file was skipped.

Is there any reason why a file might be added to a .bkf file, but cannot
then be restored??

Please help!

 

[Kerry Brown]

I thought I'd try posting this again. I have a very specific question
that's stumped our IT people. If I can see a listing for a file
(including a file size) in a .bkf file, does this mean that it has
actually been backed up, or is this just a file name?

I have tried restoring a specific file listed in my .bkf file, and I
get a message saying that the file was skipped during restore. It is
possible that this file was skipped during an incremental backup
(because volume shadow was disabled and file was locked or in use at
the time of backup), but why is it that I can see the file in the
.bkf?? There is no reason that I can think of why the file was
skipped during backup (it wasn't open or locked), and there is no
indication in the .bkf file that the file was skipped.

Is there any reason why a file might be added to a .bkf file, but
cannot then be restored??

Please help!

Are you restoring to a different location or the same location? If it's the
same location perhaps you lack NTFS permissions to overwrite the existing
file or the existing file is marked read only?

Kerry

 

[Rock]

I thought I'd try posting this again. I have a very specific question that's
stumped our IT people. If I can see a listing for a file (including a file
size) in a .bkf file, does this mean that it has actually been backed up, or
is this just a file name?

I have tried restoring a specific file listed in my .bkf file, and I get a
message saying that the file was skipped during restore. It is possible that
this file was skipped during an incremental backup (because volume shadow was
disabled and file was locked or in use at the time of backup), but why is it
that I can see the file in the .bkf?? There is no reason that I can think of
why the file was skipped during backup (it wasn't open or locked), and there
is no indication in the .bkf file that the file was skipped.

Is there any reason why a file might be added to a .bkf file, but cannot
then be restored??

Please help!

Was a verify done on the backup right after the backup was completed to
check on the integrity of the backup? One possibility is that the file
is damaged.

 

[Guest]

Hi Rock, Kerry,

Thank you very much for the responses. I'm restoring to a different location
(my laptop computer was stolen), but as far as I know I have all necessary
permissions on the hard-disk I'm restoring to. Most files restore fine, and
there were no pre-existing versions of the files I'm restoring.

The backup was verified, and no errors were reported. The reason I don't
think it was a file corruption is that there is a specific pattern to the
files that will not restore: they are all digital picture files from a Sony
camera which had been rotated from landscape to portrait orientation (files
left in landscape format have restored without a problem).

All I can think is that there was some error with Windows Picture and Fax
Viewer such that when the files were rotated they were somehow recorded as
'in use' even after the program quit (there were no programs open when I
backed-up). If this was the case, then the backup might have skipped them,
yet I can see them listed in the .bkf file. This is why I need to know
whether a 'skipped' file would still be listed in the .bkf file (appearing to
be there, but only being a file-name and size, rather than containing actual
data). How would I know if a file had been skipped?

Any ideas?

 

[Rock]

Hi Rock, Kerry,

Thank you very much for the responses. I'm restoring to a different location
(my laptop computer was stolen), but as far as I know I have all necessary
permissions on the hard-disk I'm restoring to. Most files restore fine, and
there were no pre-existing versions of the files I'm restoring.

The backup was verified, and no errors were reported. The reason I don't
think it was a file corruption is that there is a specific pattern to the
files that will not restore: they are all digital picture files from a Sony
camera which had been rotated from landscape to portrait orientation (files
left in landscape format have restored without a problem).

All I can think is that there was some error with Windows Picture and Fax
Viewer such that when the files were rotated they were somehow recorded as
'in use' even after the program quit (there were no programs open when I
backed-up). If this was the case, then the backup might have skipped them,
yet I can see them listed in the .bkf file. This is why I need to know
whether a 'skipped' file would still be listed in the .bkf file (appearing to
be there, but only being a file-name and size, rather than containing actual
data). How would I know if a file had been skipped?

Any ideas?

:

Sorry I don't. I haven't used Ntbackup in ages. Maybe someone else
will jump in here.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Hi Rock, Kerry,

Thank you very much for the responses. I'm restoring to a different
location (my laptop computer was stolen), but as far as I know I have
all necessary permissions on the hard-disk I'm restoring to. Most
files restore fine, and there were no pre-existing versions of the
files I'm restoring.

The backup was verified, and no errors were reported. The reason I
don't think it was a file corruption is that there is a specific
pattern to the files that will not restore: they are all digital
picture files from a Sony camera which had been rotated from
landscape to portrait orientation (files left in landscape format
have restored without a problem).

All I can think is that there was some error with Windows Picture and
Fax Viewer such that when the files were rotated they were somehow
recorded as 'in use' even after the program quit (there were no
programs open when I backed-up). If this was the case, then the
backup might have skipped them, yet I can see them listed in the .bkf
file. This is why I need to know whether a 'skipped' file would still
be listed in the .bkf file (appearing to be there, but only being a
file-name and size, rather than containing actual data). How would I
know if a file had been skipped?

Any ideas?

No idea what's gone wrong with NTBackup. I do know I have run into problems
with the Picture and Fax Viewer before when it changes a picture's
orientation. I have quit using it for that reason. I do quite a bit of
digital photography and was very annoyed to find that it had permanently
changed my files just by changing the orientation when viewing. There was
some loss of detail and the file size increased. I now only use Irfanview
for viewing pictures. It doesn't save the changed orientation unless you
tell it to.

Kerry

 

[Talahasee]

No idea what's gone wrong with NTBackup. I do know I have run into problems
with the Picture and Fax Viewer before when it changes a picture's
orientation. I have quit using it for that reason. I do quite a bit of
digital photography and was very annoyed to find that it had permanently
changed my files just by changing the orientation when viewing. There was
some loss of detail and the file size increased. I now only use Irfanview
for viewing pictures. It doesn't save the changed orientation unless you
tell it to.

Kerry

Not that I am trying to convert you away from Irfanview, but
I discovered a tiny program called LviewPro many years ago
(it's been upgraded many times since I found it, but I stick
with the old one; version 1.D2/32.

If anyone is interested in a tiny (will fit on a diskette)
viewer that will convert from one format to another, that
will enlarge and reduce, that will create wallpaper (what I
mostly use it for), and will rotate without saving the
change unless you ask it to, and will also do dynomite
screen captures.

LviewPro. And again, look for the v 1.D2/32.

I've seen Irfanview, and find it big and cumbersome.

If I wanted big and cumbersome, I'd go with ACDSee.

And if anyone would like the old LviewPro, just ask. It's
public domain, and I could EASILY upload it in here as a
zip.

Nice thing about LviewPro is that you can unzip it, put the
5 or so files in a directory, drag a shortcut wherever you
want it, and it's "installed". No messing with the registry.


Good luck!


Tallahassee

 

[Michael Stevens]

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Not that I am trying to convert you away from Irfanview, but
I discovered a tiny program called LviewPro many years ago
(it's been upgraded many times since I found it, but I stick
with the old one; version 1.D2/32.

If anyone is interested in a tiny (will fit on a diskette)
viewer that will convert from one format to another, that
will enlarge and reduce, that will create wallpaper (what I
mostly use it for), and will rotate without saving the
change unless you ask it to, and will also do dynomite
screen captures.

LviewPro. And again, look for the v 1.D2/32.

I've seen Irfanview, and find it big and cumbersome.

If I wanted big and cumbersome, I'd go with ACDSee.

And if anyone would like the old LviewPro, just ask. It's
public domain, and I could EASILY upload it in here as a
zip.

Nice thing about LviewPro is that you can unzip it, put the
5 or so files in a directory, drag a shortcut wherever you
want it, and it's "installed". No messing with the registry.


Good luck!


Tallahassee

Do not upload any files to these newsgroups, this is not a binaries
newsgroup. Create a web space of your own then supply a link to any binaries
you wish to share. Be aware, it may be a copyright violation to share the
LviewPro application you reference. I am familiar and am a licensed user of
Lview Pro and like it very much, but as far as I know sharing any version
without permission is not allowed.
Please learn how to post.

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[Kerry Brown]

Talahasee wrote:

Not that I am trying to convert you away from Irfanview, but
I discovered a tiny program called LviewPro many years ago
(it's been upgraded many times since I found it, but I stick
with the old one; version 1.D2/32.

If anyone is interested in a tiny (will fit on a diskette)
viewer that will convert from one format to another, that
will enlarge and reduce, that will create wallpaper (what I
mostly use it for), and will rotate without saving the
change unless you ask it to, and will also do dynomite
screen captures.

LviewPro. And again, look for the v 1.D2/32.

I've seen Irfanview, and find it big and cumbersome.

If I wanted big and cumbersome, I'd go with ACDSee.

And if anyone would like the old LviewPro, just ask. It's
public domain, and I could EASILY upload it in here as a
zip.

Nice thing about LviewPro is that you can unzip it, put the
5 or so files in a directory, drag a shortcut wherever you
want it, and it's "installed". No messing with the registry.

LView Pro is copyrighted. Posting it to a newsgroup is not within the
license. A free trial can be downloaded here:

http://www.lview.com/

I prefer Irfanview which is available here:

http://www.irfanview.com/index.htm

That is how you recommend programs to people. Point to the author's site or
an author approved download site. Posting binaries to text newsgroups is
very poor manners. Posting copyrighted binaries is unethical and possibly
illegal.

Kerry

 

[Guest]

Hi All,

Thank you again for your responses. When I found out that WPFV changed the
images when rotating, I was cautious. However, I did some tests and could not
detect any loss of quality in the jpeg file, although I'm not a pro, so
perhaps I just wasn't picky.

Anyway - back to my problem: it seems like such an easy question for someone
in the know: - If I can see a file listed in my .bkf archive, does that
necessarily mean that it has been backed up or not?

In other words, if I can see the file listed, is there *any* hope that
somehow it could be recovered? If not, then I've lost a number of my
favourite photographs

It's a pretty specific question. Can anyone recommend where I might go to
find an answer?

Cheers