The worst OS I've ever had

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Guest

Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a bad
OS.
 
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Alias

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a bad
OS.

Either you don't have enough memory or your hard drive is on its last legs.

Alias
 
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Patrick Keenan

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five
minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a
full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have
to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a
bad
OS.

Well, it works great on the systems I use and work on, so perhaps the
problem is less with the OS itself than the hardware you've put it on and
the software you've loaded - and the way it's maintained.

There are normally ways to figure out what is slowing the system down, so if
you cared to offer some useful details, help could be provided.

HTH
-pk
 
V

Vanguard

in message
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By
far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five
minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does
the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a
full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we
have to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such
a bad
OS.

Goes to prove that just because you can install an OS doesn't mean you
have a clue of how to administer it.

Stop loading so many fluff programs on Windows startup. Check memory
usage and you'll probably find you are way undersized. Try not using an
really old CPU with newer operating systems. Don't go by the minimal
requirements for an OS. Consider the recommended requirements as the
minimum. Usable is not the same as comfortable.
 
G

Gordon

Don't go by the minimal requirements for an OS. Consider the
recommended requirements as the minimum. Usable is not the same as
comfortable.


I quite agree - so WHY does the MS website on hardware requirements for XP
STILL say that the minimum is 128 MB for RAM? Everyone (obviously other than
MS and the OP) knows that it won't run easily in under 256 MB and probably
512 or more is usually needed. Do they ever update these things?
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a bad
OS.


Do you have any specific problem(s) with which you need help, or
are you just venting?

What very little detail you included points towards an issue of
incompatible/sub-standard/defective hardware, or device drivers,
incompatible software, and defective/sub-standard wetware.


--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
M

Mike Cawood, HND BIT

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five
minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a
full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have
to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a
bad
OS.

I think that WinXP is a superb OS, it's very stable (unlike the WinME I used
to have) and it uses NTFS.
OK it takes a few seconds to boot up but that's due to the software I've got
installed.
I'm quite happy with XP.
Regards Mike.
 
B

Bob Harris

Try Vista, then you will probably think that XP is not so bad.

More seriously, your experience with XP is NOT typical.

I installed XP on an old Pentium II 450 MHz, and while not the worlds
fastest PC, it was stable, far more stable than when I had win98 with the
same mix of programs. On a 2.5GHz Pentium 4 (single) it is really pretty
good, at least for what I do.

But, having played with several XP machines I can state emphatically that XP
loves RAM. If you do not provide it with enough, it will swap things to
disk, and that will bring any PC to its knees. How much RAM it needs
depends on what you are trying to do. To run XP, but nothing else other
than maybe antivirus, 128 Meg might work. To run XP and WORD comfortable,
raise that to 256 Meg. To run XP and a few non-graphic-intensive programs,
try 512 Meg. If you edit digital images, or want WORD to work with a lot of
graphics (e.g., tables and pictures), or edit video try 1 Gig (or more). If
you are into 3D games, moives, other video be sure to have a separate video
card with a lot of RAM of its own. Cheaper PCs often use part of the main
RAM as video RAM, and such hardware will not work as well as a separate
video card. Of course any RAM dedicated for video is not available for XP
and programs.

When you say "the hard drive goes crazy", you might be describing what
happens when XP runs out of RAM and starts swapping to disk. Use the XP
task manager (single CTRL-ALT-DEL) to view resources such as CPU, RAM, and
pagefile. If pagefile is growing while the disk is going crazy, add RAM at
least equal to the pagefile usage. If adding RAM is not possible (e.g., due
to motherboard limitations), think seriously about getting a new PC, or
resign yourself to change your usage of the PC.

Beyond that, try to turn off unnecessary processes. See Black Viper's
website for suggestions about required vs uncessary.
http://www.blackviper.com/

Additionally, do not have multiple windows open to the internet with video
streams, at least not while trying to do some intensive things.

Finally, indepedent of RAM, processor speed, etc, there seem to be some
things that can bring a PC to a near halt. These include whole-PC antivirus
scans, windows searches, copy&paste of large volumes of files, performing a
backup (copies a lot of files), etc. Never do any of these while you are
attempting to do something else. For example, set the antivirus to scan
while you are sleeping. Scan on usage is still OK, and recommended for
safety. Write CDs and DVDs when the PC is not otherwise occupied. And,
never play modern games while the PC is doing any of the above. Simple
games like freecell are OK, but even they might respond slowly.

Compared to LINUX (or win98 for that matter), XP will seem slower under
many/most conditions. You might want to consider a dual boot of XP plus any
LINUX (some free). Use LINUX except when required to do course assignments.
Of course, most games designed for XP will not run direectly under LINUX.
But, check into "WINE", or search gaming forums for advice.

Finally, have you tested your hardware to see whether there are any physical
problems (e.g., bad spots on disk, or in RAM)? If not, that might be useful
to rule out hardware (or rule in and then paln on repairing). Check out the
diagnostic tools available here (many free):
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads7.html
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five
minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a
full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have
to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a
bad
OS.

If you're as casual with loading stuff on your PC as
you are with your spelling then I'm not surprised
that it's unstable.
 
D

Doug W.

Bruce Chambers said:
Do you have any specific problem(s) with which you need
help, or are you just venting?

What very little detail you included points towards an
issue of incompatible/sub-standard/defective hardware, or
device drivers, incompatible software, and
defective/sub-standard wetware.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most
do. -Bertrand Russell
-
Most of the troubles experienced result from a "sub-standard"
operator...IMHO.
-
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Doug said:
-
Most of the troubles experienced result from a "sub-standard"
operator...IMHO.
-

I don't know about "most," but a large portion, certainly. That would
be the "wetware" portion of my response to the OP.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five minutes
or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a full-screen
game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have to
do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a bad
OS.



Thanks for sharing. I'm sure that the fact that millions of other
people use it successfully every day without experiencing such
problems is irrelevant. *You* have problems using it, therefore it's a
POS.

On the other, I wonder if it's just possible that that says more about
*you* than about Windows XP.
 
H

HeyBub

Alias said:
Either you don't have enough memory or your hard drive is on its last
legs.

He could have visited one too many naughty sites that downloaded nasty
stuff.

The nasty stuff, in turn, is now communicating with the mother ship, or,
more likely, sending out 200,000 spams.
 
N

Newbie Coder

Knouen,

When XP was released a spokesman for Microsoft was on the British news & also
agreed that XP was the worst operating system ever released because of rushing
it out

I agree that XP is also the worst OS about. With Service Pack infinite it will
still be not responding, error, send error report... because its instability
compared to Windows 2000 which basically never crashes
 
A

Alias

HeyBub said:
He could have visited one too many naughty sites that downloaded nasty
stuff.

The nasty stuff, in turn, is now communicating with the mother ship, or,
more likely, sending out 200,000 spams.

That's also possible.

Alias
 
C

Curt Christianson

I'm sorry to hear of your recent frustrations and less than adequate quality
of xp. I've run into dozens just like you, that dislike it too.

What's really strange, is I'm constantly running into *thousands* who like
xp, and what it can do

The "wide" discrepancy " has me confused. Learning curves on every new OS
is a PITA, but it's necessary of one wants to master it.

I'll get some of our *best people* on this right away, and hopefully we can
et to the bottom of this.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
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http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.
| Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good five
minutes
| or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY program, it does the
| same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If I try to run a
full-screen
| game, the hard drive goes crazy, then Windows crashes and reboots the
| computer. And this is all AFTER getting every recommended update.
|
| Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we have
to
| do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never seen such a
bad
| OS.
 
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Plato

=?Utf-8?B?S25vdWVu?= said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By far.

Although I do really like and use win98SE every day. I must say that XP2
is really nice. Heck, even my kid has major trouble breaking it. He used
to break XP2 all the time until I made him wait a week or so before I
reinstalled and/or fixed it for him. Now, he has finally taken my advice
and has avoided file sharing apps and downloading files from dodgy
websites. Thus far, really good for him, and me of course. Currently,
his XP2 PC has been running perfectly for over 6 months. He doesn't
download any ware from dodgy websites and only gets his mp3s from legit
sites.
 
R

RA

Knouen said:
Yep, Windows XP. It's the worst operating system I've ever had. By
far. Upon start-up it sits there thrashign teh hard drive for a good
five minutes or so before I can do anything. If I try to load ANY
program, it does the same; more hard drive thrashing for a while. If
I try to run a full-screen game, the hard drive goes crazy, then
Windows crashes and reboots the computer. And this is all AFTER
getting every recommended update.

Sadly I am forced to use this POS due to my course requriements (we
have to do some .net garbage), but it's very annoying. I have never
seen such a bad OS.

This is definitely a PEBKAC issue.
 

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