[Text Editors] Comparison

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DC

Hey, that gives me an idea for a whole category of software (free or
otherwise) that's been sorely neglected and could be the next Killer
App: clueware with WTF. ;)

Excellent. }:OD
 
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Lars Erik Bryld <[email protected]> wrote:
If your web host supports the option, yes.
It would be easiest, if the host also supports a MySql server, but the
data can be drawn from the csv file as well.
You can upload a file called e.g. test.php with the following content:

-----------------
chmod 755
<?
phpinfo();
?>
-----------------
If you load this page from your site, you should see a long-winded table
showing your PHP-configuration.

PHP Version 4.3.2

All scripts must have the "chmod 755" according to the host faq.
 
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John Fitzsimons <[email protected]> wrote:
Nice. You might consider adding info that tells which do regex,
inbuilt grepping, etc.
I would put them either in alphabetical order or via size of largest
file editable eg. <50MB, >50Mb etc.

Yes, Alphabetical, by registry entry and by largest file file size
will make three nice views, depending on which the user prefers.
P.S. It's Shalo*m* txt.

I think I have "Shalom.TXT." What do you mean *m*?
 
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(e-mail address removed) (BillR) wrote:
Would you also post (here or on site) a simple list of the editors on
your review list? Rejected? I hope people will look at that list
before making additional suggestions.

Sure. I have not rejected any. TED won't open files 1 meg in size, so
I skipped over it for the moment. GbText needs richtx32.ocx and I got
a bad install file for Emojic, but I'm planning on coming back and
adding them. If enough people have problems with one or view it as a
bad editor relatively I can remove it.

I've already seen newer versions than the ones I downloaded for a
couple of these. This made me think it might be best to link to the
author's site when possible, a site without popups in other cases and
my site for files that cannot be found on English sites.

AEdit 5.0 (beta 1) - 369k
AEdit SX (v4.0-SX r3) - (1,37Mb - freeware)
http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/axart/english.html#aedit

AbiWord: 3919k
http://www.abisource.com/products.phtml

AnyEdit: v1.0 beta - 1115k
http://www.anyedit.org/

Atlantis Nova: 761k
http://www.rssol.com/en/html/download/nova.htm

Crypt Edit: ~2000k
http://ps.yaroslavl.ru/

CWordPad: 845k
http://users.erols.com/fwcetus/cwordpad.htm

Delphad: 1004k
http://www.hushpage.com/Delphad/delphad.html

Editor2: 55k!
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?id=67247
http://www.netez.com/2xExplorer

EditPad Lite: 973k (linux version available) [Postcardware] *
http://www.editpadlite.com/editpadlite.html

EditPad Regular: 309k (year 2000 version) [Postcardware] *
http://tucows.kr.psi.net/files/EditPadClassic.zip

EdXOR: 34k
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/edxor.htm

GNU emacs:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html

EmEditor: 1.27 - went shareware v3.36. I'll look into finding and
archiving the last freeware version if the licence permits
redistribution.

Emojic: v1.4 - 1230k (bad setup file)

eWriter: 703k
"32-bit 21st century eTypewriter (for the writer, not the clerk
typist) for use in Windows 95+ and Windows NT."
http://home.earthlink.net/~acorioso/ew_main.htm

gbText: v4.5 - 314k (richtx32.ocx required)

Jarte: v2.0 - 1693k
http://www.jarte.com/

MetaPad: v3.5 -
LE - 45k
FULL - 45.7k
"Q: What is the difference between Full version and LE?
A: Technically, the full version utilizes a RichEdit control whereas
LE (Light Edition) uses the older but speedier Edit control (as does
metapad 1.x). LE is somewhat quicker under NT when loading large files
but it does not have the following features: no file size limit on
Win9X, multiple undo/redo, show hyperlinks option, drag & drop text,
editinginsert/overwrite mode. It's up to you to decide which one you
like better!
http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/

Nerdpad: v1.0 - 30k
http://www.zdnetindia.com/downloads/info/877091.html

NoteKeeper: v0.4 - 1090k
All links I've tried so far at to the author's site and it is down,
temporarily I think.

Notemaid: 52k
http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?ID=648

NotesPad: 97k
http://www.newbie.net/NotesPad/

NoteTab Light: 1796k
http://www.notetab.com/ntl.php

NoteXPad v2.0.1 - 132k
Screen shot looks good, bad setup file.
http://ryan.ript.net/notexpad/

NoteXPad (chinese site)
http://woundedmoon.org/text/notexpad_en.exe

PFE: v1.01 - 607k
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/

Prolix: V3.2 - 507k
http://www.kobayashi.com/prolix.html

RoughDraft: v2.11 - 1812k
http://www.rsalsbury.co.uk/rd.htm

Scintilla v1.54 - 495k
http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaDownload.html

Scite: v1.54 - 920k
http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

Shalom Txt: v1.2 - 405k
http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/stxt/

Stratuspad: 1000k
[ftp://ftp.meiji.ac.jp/mirror/win3/util/stratpad.zip]

Syn: v2.5.0.24 - 1631k
http://syn.sourceforge.net/

TED Notepad: Version 3.0.1 beta (no unicode) - 63k
<http://www.mff.cuni.cz/is/lab/> of Faculty of Mathematics and Physics
<http://www.mff.cuni.cz/> of the Charles University
<http://www.cuni.cz/> in Prague; written in pure ANSI C language (no
MFC, no C++, no Borland), using the system API functions, compiled
with Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0. Instead of other Notepad
replacements, TED was developed to be the most stable and as fast as
possible program; even if it cost some price. Without wizards and
objects; but with help and support of the other students there; I
think it is now what it ought to be."
http://jsimlo.sk/notepad/

TextMorph: v1.0 beta - 1920k
http://www.laughandlift.com/programs/index.html


TextShield: 1750k
http://www.softpile.com/Business/Text_Utilities/Review_08464_index.html

The Gun: v2.5 15k!
http://www.movsd.com/thegun.htm

Quick Editor v3.0f - 139k
http://www.movsd.com/qed.htm

Win32Pad: v1.3.3 69k (or 30k .zip)
http://www.gena01.com

TxtEdit
http://www.luziusschneider.com/Engindex.html

VDE(DOS) : v1.93c - 184,320 bytes
http://members.aol.com/wolffsoft/vde.htm

vim: v6.2 - 4040k
http://www.vim.org/

Winsyntax v2.0 - 453k
http://www.winsyntax.com/

Word Tabs v3.29 - 1529k
http://www.aaafreebies.com/programs/wordtabs.htm

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Still haven't downloaded:

Wordsworth & XpertWord

XVI32 (hex)
http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/

Ywriter:
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Programming Editors:

CodePad: (dual pane)
http://shicola.d2.cz/codepad/

ConText:
http://www.fixedsys.com/context/

Crimson Editor: v3.51 (June 11,2003)
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

Hackman Lite
http://www.technologismiki.com/hackman/

Jext: ~20 megs (very large)
http://www.jext.org/

NotePadXP
www.acsoftware.org

PSPad 4.2.5 (1806) - 24.07.2003 - 2000k
http://www.pspad.com/index_en.html

Side by Side: 685k
http://www.slimeworld.org/galwebde/sideby/index.html

SourceEdit
www.sourceedit.com

WinVI
http://www.winvi.de/en/


Hex Editors:

A.X.E. - (standing for Advanced Hex Editor)

Frhed: v1.0.156 - 307k
http://www.kibria.de/ (outstanding page design for anyone who enjoys
a beautiful site)

Hexview: 210k
http://www.funduc.com/otsoft.htm#hexview

Jedit:
http://www.jedit.org/

HTML Editors:

AceHTML Freeware
www.visicommedia.com

Arachnophilia
www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/

Coffee Cup Free HTML
http://www.coffeecup.com/freehtml/

1st Page 2000
www.evrsoft.com

HTML Builder
www.code-builders.com/

HTML-Kit
www.chami.com

TSW WebCoder
http://www.tsware.net/

WebWriter
www.stoneware.dk

Special Use Editor:

Bifocal Notepad:
"Bifocal Notepad is a simplified Notepad replacement intended for use
by the visually impaired, or by anyone who is tired of squinting at
tiny text files in the regular Windows Notepad."

Desktop Writer: 1900k v2.2
"Desktop Writer is a powerful word processor designed to be used by
children and people who are not very competent with word processors."
Seems abandoned, I can't find the author's site presently. "While
there are no menus, all buttons are designed to look attractive and
colorful so that a child can easily understand their function and how
to use them."
http://www.softlookup.com/download/down15692.html

Multi-program:

NotesBrowser: 2390k
"Notesbrowser is a professional organizer. You can store notes and
schedule dates in one integrated, easy to use interface. It is a
planning
tool and is suitable for both business and personal application.
http://www.notesbrowser.com/


Stats:

TEXT ANALYSER? Text Information: v1.2 30k
This seems to be a program that gives many stats about a text file.
http://www.qjc.cjb.net/ti.html


I think that is the current list, although I might have a couple rat
holed in another file. That's a pretty good start and surely other
programs will be recommended over time also.
 
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interesting to see a few more people appear to be taking an interest now
that something has been produced....

That is the hope... that many will help out and many more benefit.
In order to save some real estate by narrowing the columns, is it possible
to 'rotate' the column headings (eg in Excel you can rotate the text up to
90 degrees from the horizontal). I had a hunt through my meagre HTML
recsources and couldn't find anything but perhaps someone more knowledgable
can confirm if this is doable.

I'll give this a try and see how it works. I'm not sure if it will
wrap, or if a single line will extend upwards.
also, instead of adding an extra column at the right of your table for the
link, just make the first column serve both purposes (ie make the link
title the prog name)

That never occurred to me. I was hunkered down and never even thought
of it. Nice catch!
 
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Sheldon Isaac <[email protected]> wrote:
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
I like this page; he keeps it up to date.
http://home.att.net/~short.stop/vde.htm
VDE(DOS) : v1.93d - 178,746 bytes

I have added this link.
(I guess the sizes you show here are the downloads, rather than the
executables?)

Yes, I suppose hat both should be noted. In terms of locating and
downloading I've been giving the total program size and in the table I
have the .exe size.

I must say that VDE did a number on my head. Is that Word Star type
commands? It's been awhile since I saw anything like that, probably
DOS Word Perfect 5.0 or so.
 
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ms said:
I's suggest adding Editpad Classic and Editpad Lite to your tabulation,
they have been mentioned frequently in the past in ACF. Like the others,
they have strong/weak points.

I just discovered that I had left them off. Thanks Mike!
 
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Just don't confuse Emacs with XEmacs or you'll insult both groups of
followers.

I have no experience with either obviously <G>. I saw the GNU emacs
was a large program and deferred downloading.

I figure starting with the smaller (and simplier) programs will allow
us to get something together and up. If anyone has any experience with
GNU emacs or XEmacs and cares to fill in the info it will help
greatly. Otherwise it is on down the road somewhere...
Feed the banana to a lawyer, feed the lawyer to the shark.
Oh, wait, that won't work... :)

Why not?? We can dress him as Gates and snitch the briefcase.
 
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I'm still working on this. Placing a dask in an Excel cell doesn't
seem to work. It displays the cell number of whatever cell I move to
after leaving the cell. The * character works, but it is not the best

If you set the format of the cells to text instead of numeric, which it
will automatically do the moment it perceives a numeric type of
character, you should be able to show it.
 
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Multi-program:

NotesBrowser: 2390k
"Notesbrowser is a professional organizer. You can store notes and
schedule dates in one integrated, easy to use interface. It is a
planning
tool and is suitable for both business and personal application.
http://www.notesbrowser.com/

Um, unless there is some particular reason why you are including this
program to the exclusion of other programs like it, maybe you ought to
include at least InfoMagic, which creates text files instead of that
weird six-window panel that Notesbrowser does.

Melinda, a happy registered user of the full versions of both
Notesbrowser and InfoMagic
 
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Lord Possum

It was either VDE or one of the TED iterations. I recall that it was even
under
10K ... but was restricted to the 65K file size limited by DOS. And, now
that
I think about it .. it did not do RTF files, of course. And, the blocking
style
was column-block ... any size rectangle could be cut out of the text, and
left
spaces (Chr$20) behind. But the great thing was, it would reformat any
paragraph to fit your line length, removing old carriage return and
inserting
new ones where needed. When saved, that text file could be viewed in
any other editor or wordpro with the new line lengths.
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply <[email protected]> wrote:
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
Um, unless there is some particular reason why you are including this
program to the exclusion of other programs like it, maybe you ought to
include at least InfoMagic, which creates text files instead of that
weird six-window panel that Notesbrowser does.

I have added InfoMagic to the list, which became from excerpts dating
back to 2001 from acf. I haven't made it that far yet.
 
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Susan Bugher <[email protected]> wrote:
In QuattroPro a dash (-) is interpreted as a minus sign (the start of a
mathematical expression) - to make QuattroPro interpret the input as
text you add a single quote first ('-) . I know Excel does it
differently - check the Excel help file - there should be a way to input
a single dash as text.

I'll look at help and see if I can find the delimiter.
or . . . try 2 or more dashes (---)

I tried multiple dashes, no go.
 
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techie

I have no experience with either obviously <G>. I saw the GNU emacs
was a large program and deferred downloading.

That's one of the many things I don't like about Emacs. My editor of
choice must be able to fit on a floppy disk along with a bootable copy
of Linux or *BSD, and still have room left over for plenty of
utilities.

This is such a mess that I don't s swear I have this right, but I
think the difference between the two editors is that XEmacs started
out as either a fork or a duplicate of Emacs by a group of people who
disagreed on Emacs' policies and design issues. Most such project
forks eventually merge back into the original project. However, the
XEmacs developers weren't careful to get certain legal documents from
all their contributors to transfer the copyrights to the Free Software
Foundation, which makes it risky for Emacs to copy code from XEmacs.
So, XEmacs can borrow code from Emacs but not vice versa which really
leaves the Emacs crowd bitter. Mention XEmacs in the Emacs group and
you'll get flame-broiled.

In use, the two editors are about 98% identical. The real difference
is in the 2% or so of features that each group has added according to
their needs and philosophies. Sorry, but having discarded both editors
several years ago I can't begin to remember what those are.


Another editor you might want to add to your (If you don't have it
already) list is Micro-Emacs (sometimes called uemacs and now called
"JASSPA Emacs" under a new development group). It's a lean, mean,
shrunk-down version of Emacs without all the bloated junk. I probably
would have adopted it as my primary editor but the then-current
version kept crashing on my *BSD systems. That was 2 years ago so
maybe they have the bugs worked out by now.

Here's the homepage: http://www.jasspa.com/

JASSPA Emacs runs on a gazillion platforms - Linux, FreeBSD, Unix,
Irix, AIX, HPUX, SunOS, NeXTstep, and even DOS and Windows.
I figure starting with the smaller (and simplier) programs will allow
us to get something together and up. If anyone has any experience with
GNU emacs or XEmacs and cares to fill in the info it will help
greatly. Otherwise it is on down the road somewhere...

I tried both just long enough to know that I don't like either one
out-of-the-box. VIM took a lot of work to customize but I'm happy with
it now. I could have customized (X)Emacs to do about the same things
but it would have taken a whole lot more learning. VIM's authors seem
to have thought of everything so about all you have to do is tweak
some settings and maybe change some keycodes. With (X)Emacs you have
to learn quite a bit of lisp to accomplish the same things.
Why not?? We can dress him as Gates and snitch the briefcase.

Oh, in that case why not just use the real Gates?

And Ballmer, too.
 
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(e-mail address removed) (BillR) wrote:
I was thinking of primarily the former. For example rather than
having many footnotes to the table, an asterisk (or whatever works)
would refer the user to the comments specific to each editor. For
example, if the find/search feature was particularly robust, this
could be mentioned there.

That certainly could not hurt.
How about using "o" for no/not present? It might cause some slight
confusion with zero, but using a lowercase letter "O" should minimize
that. "o" is also visually quite different from the other suggestions
so it also should be easy to scan.

Susan figured it out, enter '- to display -
That can help on some spreadsheets. Other times it doesn't help much.

The sheet looked good enough, but when converted to html it lost the
angled formatting :(
Some editors specifically feature that. Off hand I don't remember
which but I'm sure someone will jump in with an example. Otherwise
I'll have to download seveal manuals/help files.

We can add that in later, we're getting the crude part done.
Or we could just provide a static table or three and a download of the
spreadsheet/db that someone can manipulate to their heart's content.

Both sounds good.
 

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