Template, creating one and using an MS template

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DonaldS

Hello;

I have MS Works v7.0 / Word 2002

I need a template and I found one that I needed on the MS
Word Web site. It was a template called "Legal Pleadings".

I downloaded it using MS IE and now it is somewhere on my
hard drive because it apparently installed it as well and i
don't have a clue as to where.

So, I went back to the Web site using Netscape and from the
templates page, I downloaded the "Legal Pleadings Wizard"
file: 01001407.cab.aspx -

A pop up window advised that if the file downloaded with
the "aspx" extension I "must change the extension back to .cab
before opening it."

I did that.

I Selected a folder and extracted the file to that folder,
and then clicked Extract. I double-clicked on the extracted
file to open it --------- and, nothing. (As far as I can
tell anyway.)

I would really like to use that template, it looks like
just the ticket, but for the life of me I can not figure
out how to do so.

Anyone know how to do it?

DonaldS
 
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Charles Kenyon

First, the legal pleading wizard is not that great, but it may help you do
what you want, if your pleadings work the way theirs do...

Have you tried File => New?

If it is properly installed, you will find it behind the tab for legal
pleadings.
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DonaldS

Have you tried File => New?


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Interestingly enough, I do not not have the "New" option
when I click on Word 2002's File!

I don't know why either. Word 2002 came installed on my
computer when I bought it from Gateway late last year.

Thanks for your reply, btw, I feel a little better about
not being able to find or run that Legal Pleadings template
now.

DonaldS
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

You may not be seeing New if you still have adaptive menus enabled and
haven't used File | New lately. But you should be able to get to it from the
New Document task pane by clicking on "More templates." If you want to be
able to see all menu entries, open Tools | Customize, select the Options
tab, and check the box for "Always show full menus."

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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DonaldS

-----Original Message-----
But you should be able to get to it from the
New Document task pane by clicking on "More templates."

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Hi,

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it

I do not know now to do the drill that you suggested:

-- i.e. "...you should be able to get to it from the New
Document task pane by clicking on "More templates."

How do I do this?

Where is the the "New Document task pane" located? How do I
get there?

TY again,

Regards,

DonaldS
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

The New Document task pane should be displayed when you start Word.
Otherwise, choose View | Task Pane (or press Ctrl+F1). If some other task
pane is displayed, click the down arrow at the top of the pane to get a menu
and select New Document. All this is based on your having Word 2002, as you
stated in your original post. If you have an earlier version, you have to
get to the File New dialog using File | New (which would require you to put
that command back on the menu).

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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DonaldS

-----Original Message-----
All this is based on your having Word 2002, as you
stated in your original post.

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Hello;

Yes, I have Word 2002 (10.4030.2625) and I found the pane
you referred to.

Under "Neew from Template" I clicked on "Legal Pleading
wizard" and nothing happened. I clicked on one above it,
and it worked.

I clicked on "General Templates..." and saw that there was
a tab for "Legal Pleadings". In that tab was the icon for
"Legal Pleadings", which I clicked on - I got an error
messages that said:

"The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other
removeable disk that is not available. Insert the
'Microsoft Word 2002' disc and click OK. [then above the
dialog box below that message it said; 'Use feature from:'
and in the dialog box was - 'Works Suite Word CD or DVD'.

At this point the issue is moot. I went to my other
computer that has Word Perfect on it and made a template to
my liking. The problem is that the Nebraska Court
Administrator's Offfice will not accept transcripts and
depositions on Word Perfect format.

Thank you for the attention that you gave to my problem. I
am giving up on this template project at this time.

I do have another question about Word and template making
if you feel up to it. [smile]

Thank you,

DonaldS
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

If you got Word as part of Works Suite, then you got a lot of extra
templates in Works, but they may be available only if you start Word from
the Works Task Launcher. It also sounds as if you may have set some of the
templates (including the Pleading Wizard) to Install on First Use, which is
why the CD is required.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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DonaldS said:
-----Original Message-----
All this is based on your having Word 2002, as you
stated in your original post.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello;

Yes, I have Word 2002 (10.4030.2625) and I found the pane
you referred to.

Under "Neew from Template" I clicked on "Legal Pleading
wizard" and nothing happened. I clicked on one above it,
and it worked.

I clicked on "General Templates..." and saw that there was
a tab for "Legal Pleadings". In that tab was the icon for
"Legal Pleadings", which I clicked on - I got an error
messages that said:

"The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other
removeable disk that is not available. Insert the
'Microsoft Word 2002' disc and click OK. [then above the
dialog box below that message it said; 'Use feature from:'
and in the dialog box was - 'Works Suite Word CD or DVD'.

At this point the issue is moot. I went to my other
computer that has Word Perfect on it and made a template to
my liking. The problem is that the Nebraska Court
Administrator's Offfice will not accept transcripts and
depositions on Word Perfect format.

Thank you for the attention that you gave to my problem. I
am giving up on this template project at this time.

I do have another question about Word and template making
if you feel up to it. [smile]

Thank you,

DonaldS
 
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TortFeasor

Is there a better way to set up legal pleadings?

Tortfeasor
Cell#99@CountyJail


First, the legal pleading wizard is not that great, but it may help you do
what you want, if your pleadings work the way theirs do...

Have you tried File => New?

If it is properly installed, you will find it behind the tab for legal
pleadings.


Tortfeasor
Cell#99@CountyJaill
 
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Charles Kenyon

TortFeasor said:
Is there a better way to set up legal pleadings?

Yes, IMO. Start by creating a good caption, in a table, mostly without
borders. You can create different sized ones for different numbers of
parties and store them as AutoText Entries. If you want side rules (I do),
create those. I used the pleading wizard to learn how these are constructed.
If you want line numbering (which I skip) you are very restricted in your
line and paragraph spacing. Your line spacing must be fixed.

Put these elements together in a basic template. I mark the different
elements of the pleading with bookmarks to make it easy to use vba to
replace them. My template contains numbering styles set up along the
suggestions made by Dave Rado in these newsgroups after reviewing John
McGhie's article about numbering on the MVP FAQ site.

Headers and footers make extensive use of the StyleRef field to pull in
information from the body of the document (party names, case number,
pleading title). AutoText includes a jurat for an affidavit as well as
notarization signature lines.

I use the basic template to create more specific form templates. Those
templates are repositories of text, really, because an AutoNew macro in them
pulls the various elements of the basic template from that template
including caption, styles, headers and footers.

AutoNew macro determines whether the template being used is the basic
template or one of the text containers. If it is one of the text containers,
then the pulling in takes place. By default, the AutoNew macro finishes by
attaching the new document to the basic template. That way, when I make
changes (adding macros, toolbars, etc.) that are of general use in all
pleadings, I have them available without specifically adding them to each
form. They are only available in templates that were based on the original,
though, rather than in letters, reports, or exhibits that are being prepared
(as they would be if I put the changes into a global template).

I think the pleading wizard was developed to meet the pleading requirements
of a particular jurisdiction, although I don't know which one. It results in
pleadings that look like they are produced on a typewriter on pre-printed
paper. My pleadings look a lot better, but my jurisdiction does not have the
requirements that others do. They look (and to a large extent, still are)
hand-crafted. They use my client's name and proper address titles
throughout. They are gender-specific where appropriate. In the case of a
criminal discovery demand, I have most of the body set in two columns. This
makes it much easier to read and also reduces the page count. It probably
wouldn't pass muster in the jurisdiction for which the pleading wizard was
designed.

Setting up templates this way is a long-term process, not a way to get
something to court tomorrow. On the other hand, now, years into the system,
I can generate a complex motion in limine in half an hour, rather than the
three to four hours it had taken previously. (This time excludes research.)
Base documents such as a notice of retainer or authorization for appearance
take about five minutes time and I can generate them myself without
secretarial assistance.

I would strongly recommend reviewing

<URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm>

as well as the ABA book "How to Create a System for the Law Office" which
may be out of print.

Learn how styles and AutoText work. Look at the AutoTextList field for
choosing optional text.

My standard pleadings are merge forms, merged with an Excel database. Excel
because I need more than the 22 fields a Word table can handle. Not Access
because I don't have time to put together a good database, although I think
I would benefit from doing it. I am a sole practitioner and my bread and
butter is not in learning computers but in getting work out for my clients.
In a group practice, a relational database would be well worth the extra
up-front time involved. Long-term, it is worth that time in mine as well; I
just haven't been willing to devote that time, yet.

I just "graduated" to utilizing a UserForm in one of my pleadings (that same
discovery demand) which allows me to insert text for three different types
of case into the generic demand.
--

Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

If you use Word's built-in line numbering instead of the fixed kind used in
the Pleading Wizard, you're not limited in your spacing, but you do need to
be more meticulous about not using empty paragraphs to create "blank lines."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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