temp files

[Karen F]

I use to clean out the temp files in XP. How do I find them in Vista and
should I clean them out? Should I run defrag? What is the best way to
keep the computer clean. Thanks.

 

[Not Me]

disk cleanup

 

[AJR]

Karten - To "see" temp files: Run>%temp%.

Vista automatically runs Defrag aas a low-level background program.

 

[Ranger2306]

I use to clean out the temp files in XP. How do I find them in Vista and
should I clean them out? Should I run defrag? What is the best way to
keep the computer clean. Thanks.

Try Ccleaner. A free program from www.ccleaner.com
It does a great job for me.

 

[AlexB]

All versions or Business and up?

Karten - To "see" temp files: Run>%temp%.

Vista automatically runs Defrag aas a low-level background program.

 

[AlexB]

Why would she download your allegedly free" Cc*rap if Vista has built in API
to do it? You, greedy scoundrels, have no shame whatsoever.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Watch your step alex

MVPs here recommend it for vista.(CCleaner) and it is totally FREE.
It does more than %temp% does, in different areas.

Me, I use %temp%, and other tools.

So, tape your tping fingers together, and open your eyes here and read

You might learn something, but I doubt it!.

 

[Charlie42]

I use to clean out the temp files in XP. How do I find them in Vista and
should I clean them out? Should I run defrag? What is the best way to
keep the computer clean. Thanks.

Although you could use third party software, Vista has it's own Disc Cleanup
tool. You will find it in All Programs > Accessories > System tools. I
believe Vista's tool doesn't touch index.dat files, though.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/1264bc24-72a8-48aa-84e3-a355327139d91033.mspx

Also, you should take a look at Internet Options > General tab > Browsing
History. If you use another browser and/or software, you will usually find
it's cleanup options in a Settings/Preferences/Options menu.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/1d862c06-aeb3-403a-8b58-2a76c8c676911033.mspx

As for Defrag, by default it runs periodically in the background.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/d19994eb-6648-464e-a0d2-072c920f18a61033.mspx

Keep control of what programs start up at boot: Windows Defender > Tools >
Software Explorer. Also remember to uninstall software you don't use (at
least it frees up disk space): Control Panel > Add/remove programs.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/b38d44d3-c61f-411f-a069-8f189d2f914e1033.mspx

You will find that the experts in this ng advices against using registry
cleaners, so you don't need one of those. If you know what your doing, you
can manually edit the registry by typing "regedit" in the start menu
searchbox and press ENTER (requires administrator privileges).

Charlie42

 

[Alex T. ~MVP Windows Shell/User~]

This is the 2nd sugestion of your that is totally unfounded. CCleaner
cleans more than just Temp files. It cleans internet history along with
program specific temp files. The built I Windows Temp cleaner is decent but
this FREE alternative is much better. CCleaner can also help clean up your
registry with no searching thru it and it will make a backup for you as
well.

So here is my suggestion for you. How about you actually try these things
suggested. That way you can have a REAL opinion on how they work. Don’t
bash people for offering alternatives that are better than the built in
Windows tools. Next thing you will be saying is that the Windows
defragmentation is good. Stop pestering people with your incorrect
information. It is FREE. Check the site.


Use the %temp% command from a Run prompt with Admin rights. Make sure you
have hidden files and folders showing.

 

[AlexB]

I am listening. Thank you and I appreciate your comment.

The problem for me is that I've been burned so many times and developed an
idiosyncratic reaction. Unless I see the source code myself I have hard time
believing it. My latest strategies have been to check on the source code
first (if it is available). If it is complete, there are no dll attached, I
can see its transparently, then I lower my guard.

However, just the tone of what you've said makes me trust you. I will see.

How can it clean up my registry with no search thru it? This is hardly
possible in my opinion.

Thanks.

 

[NoStop]

I am listening. Thank you and I appreciate your comment.

The problem for me is that I've been burned so many times and developed an
idiosyncratic reaction. Unless I see the source code myself I have hard
time believing it. My latest strategies have been to check on the source
code first (if it is available). If it is complete, there are no dll
attached, I can see its transparently, then I lower my guard.

I guess you run nothing on your computer, because in the proprietary world
of Windoze, one doesn't get to see the source code of 99.99% of the
applications they run. Maybe you're talking about Linux?

Cheers.

--
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http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

The Rolling Stones Love Vista:

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/

 

[DanS]

Why would she download your allegedly free" Cc*rap if Vista has built
in API to do it? You, greedy scoundrels, have no shame whatsoever.

Again with the wrong terminology PhalyxB.

An API is the 'Advanced Programming Interface' of some library, usually in
a DLL or OCX. It is a function call used while writing applications.

GetWindow() is an API call.
SetWindowLong() is an API call.

If you mean a built in utility within Vista, SAY BUILT-IN UTILITY, NOT API.

 

[DanS]

I am listening. Thank you and I appreciate your comment.

No, you are not listening. If you were, you wouldn't be offering your bad
advise or making stupid comments about something you know nothing about.

It seems as though you have made an a** of your self....again.

Do you see a pattern here ?

The problem for me is that I've been burned so many times and
developed an idiosyncratic reaction. Unless I see the source code
myself I have hard time believing it. My latest strategies have been
to check on the source code first (if it is available). If it is
complete, there are no dll attached, I can see its transparently, then
I lower my guard.

I guess then you won't be using any software at all.

That is based on your above reasoning......

99.99% of s/w available doesn't have the source code available.
99.9% of s/w includes their own DLL's of some type, maybe 1, maybe 100.

Ergo, you will not use 99.99% or s/w available to the rest of the world.

However, just the tone of what you've said makes me trust you. I will
see.

How can it clean up my registry with no search thru it? This is hardly
possible in my opinion.

Well, maybe because other people too know what needs to be looked at in the
registry, and where to do a cleaning. Do you think that maybe, just this
once, someone other than you could have the knowledge to write a utility to
check those areas of the registry which usually cause problems?

Of course not, you are all-wise and all-knowing.

At least, that is *your* opinion.

 

[Alex T. ~MVP Windows Shell/User~]

It does do a search thru the registry. The search is for registry entries
that have no purpose or are no longer in use. Just as it also does a search
thru your system for temp files and other files that it can delete just like
it would thru windows disk cleanup. CCleaner is just much more efficient.

I have tried several registry cleaners/temp file remover applications. I do
not recommend any but CCleaner because it does work so efficiently. I
Personally do not recommend any application without testing it myself first
on my machine. Not even a test machine but my real machine that I use
everyday. If it works on there then I know it will work for everyone. That
is why I recommend things like this. If I were to recommend it to someone
and not have tested it and they got burned that would be on me. That is why
I test it first.

 

[AlexB]

I don't use cr*ap. You do.

If I need an exotic application I search an MS website, research the issue,
write my own code if necessary and it works for me.

You of course tend to contort the question to make your own point. Sure, I
do not look into the mouth of every horse. I do not expect to find source
code for MS Word Reader for instance, I just trust MS. I trust Adobe,
although I can find a source code for Acrobat type pdf file maker and
reader. I trust reputable hardware makers who make their own drivers mostly
in close cooperation with MS.

Of course, there are many people who have knowledge of the registry. Why in
the world shall I trust them? Why, if there are a number of MS APIs I am
familiar with that I can use myself and see what I am doing? Do you want
names?

regedit.exe; regedt32.exe regmon.exe ; regdmp.exe

There are others.

Keep your sh*t to yourselves if you want to use your "free" stuff which
perhaps some of you have written.

I am sure some of your so called "free" registry cleaners are no more than
wrappers for those APIs. I prefer to use them directly. I can design a GUI
with 20 buttons for each of them in 2 hours.

 

[AlexB]

Thank you, Alex.

It does do a search thru the registry. The search is for registry entries
that have no purpose or are no longer in use. Just as it also does a
search thru your system for temp files and other files that it can delete
just like it would thru windows disk cleanup. CCleaner is just much more
efficient.

I have tried several registry cleaners/temp file remover applications. I
do not recommend any but CCleaner because it does work so efficiently. I
Personally do not recommend any application without testing it myself
first on my machine. Not even a test machine but my real machine that I
use everyday. If it works on there then I know it will work for everyone.
That is why I recommend things like this. If I were to recommend it to
someone and not have tested it and they got burned that would be on me.
That is why I test it first.

 

[AlexB]

An amazing ability to do some online library search. I am afraid I cannot
even offer a gratitude. Sorry, I've known it all for years and years.

Your claim that the native P2P facility in Vista is not an API is ABSURD.
Check your notes again. Talk to a Windows applications programmer. Get a
second opinion. Don't make idiotic claims when you don't know what you are
talking about.

****P2P is an API.*****

It is also a service, though. It has a UI. This UI is integrated into a
wider Vista GUI called Start Menu or Control Panel but the core application
that does it in the end, an executable file with the ****.exe*** extension
plus perhaps a couple of ***dlls*** is an API.

OCX files are ActivX files, typically not referred by API name but in fact
they use many of the same functions.

The functions you are referring to have been written by MS OS system writers
to support OS functioning but also were made widely available to application
programmers to write their own APIs. This is why they are called API
function calls. There are dll functions that are inaccessible by app
programmers and designed to be systems methods only. They are never called
API function calls.

If you want me to pull a dozen quotes from official MS literature where they
refer to apps like regedit.exe as an API I won't do it. I will leave it for
you as an exercise.

 

[DanS]

An amazing ability to do some online library search. I am afraid I
cannot even offer a gratitude. Sorry, I've known it all for years and
years.

Your claim that the native P2P facility in Vista is not an API is
ABSURD. Check your notes again. Talk to a Windows applications
programmer. Get a second opinion. Don't make idiotic claims when you
don't know what you are talking about.

What's even funnier is that you truly believe you are right.

It is also a service, though. It has a UI. This UI is integrated into
a wider Vista GUI called Start Menu or Control Panel but the core
application that does it in the end, an executable file with the
****.exe*** extension plus perhaps a couple of ***dlls*** is an API.

No it's not. An exe with supporting dll's is an application.

OCX files are ActivX files, typically not referred by API name but in
fact they use many of the same functions.

The functions you are referring to have been written by MS OS system
writers to support OS functioning but also were made widely available
to application programmers to write their own APIs. This is why they
are called API function calls. There are dll functions that are
inaccessible by app programmers and designed to be systems methods
only. They are never called API function calls.

If you want me to pull a dozen quotes from official MS literature
where they refer to apps like regedit.exe as an API I won't do it. I
will leave it for you as an exercise.

No, the excercise is futile, as no where on the MS website would it say
regedit.exe is an API.

It's a program, an application, a utility, but not an API.