Target frames don't work

[S. Labuzan]

I have a simple frame page, with a header and a main body.

I have inserted 7 links into the header for site
navigation. I want 4 of these links to open up in new
pages, and the other 3 to open up the pages in the main
body of my frameset.

I have configured these links 8 ways to Sunday, and I
simply cannot get the targeting to work!!

I can get the 4 links to open in a new page, but when I
return to my original frameset page, they have also
loaded the page in the header, eliminating my navigation
frame.

The 3 links that I target to the main body only open up
in the header, again blowing away my navigation frame.

I have looked at everything, and I can't figure out what
could possibly be wrong.

Help!!!

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Provide a URL

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| I have a simple frame page, with a header and a main body.
|
| I have inserted 7 links into the header for site
| navigation. I want 4 of these links to open up in new
| pages, and the other 3 to open up the pages in the main
| body of my frameset.
|
| I have configured these links 8 ways to Sunday, and I
| simply cannot get the targeting to work!!
|
| I can get the 4 links to open in a new page, but when I
| return to my original frameset page, they have also
| loaded the page in the header, eliminating my navigation
| frame.
|
| The 3 links that I target to the main body only open up
| in the header, again blowing away my navigation frame.
|
| I have looked at everything, and I can't figure out what
| could possibly be wrong.
|
| Help!!!

 

[Guest]

Provide a URL

Sure. The site can be accessed at:

http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testi
ndex.htm

This page has two frames, main and header. Main is
populated with:

http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/hvac.
html

and header is populated with

http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testn
av.htm

I have checked the source code in testnav.htm, and sure
enough, the targets are there and listed correctly (main
or _blank), but my browser certainly isn't executing it
that way.

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

The 3 links won't work because they are pointing to your PC
<a target="main" href="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Shane%20Labuzan/Desktop/webgenFP/hvac.html">

File import all pages into your FP web and fix your links
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| >Provide a URL
|
| Sure. The site can be accessed at:
|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testi
| ndex.htm
|
| This page has two frames, main and header. Main is
| populated with:
|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/hvac.
| html
|
| and header is populated with
|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testn
| av.htm
|
| I have checked the source code in testnav.htm, and sure
| enough, the targets are there and listed correctly (main
| or _blank), but my browser certainly isn't executing it
| that way.
|
| Thanks for your help in advance.
|

 

[Guest]

Stefan - thanks for noticing that stupidity on my part.
Those errors were fixed, and not the hyperlinks load the
page in the correct frame.

However, the problem still exists for all seven links
that in addition to loading the page in a different frame
(or page), it also is loading the link in the original
frame (my header). This is wiping out my navigation
frame.

How do I get the hyperlink to ONLY load the page in the
target, and not in the original window also?

Thank for your help!

Shane

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Most of you links contaiin target="_blank" instead of target="main"
And your html is full of local links to your hard drive and/or a local network connectiuon
As in your images don't show because they are also set to a local network link
http://192.168.2.110/

PS
Don't know what scripts you are trying to run, but looks like it's crashing
Server Error: 404 Not Found
Operating System Error Nr:3702786: S_dosFsLib_FILE_NOT_FOUND

IMHO , drop the shape/word art & start from fresh w/ File New Web and work in your FP web




| Stefan - thanks for noticing that stupidity on my part.
| Those errors were fixed, and not the hyperlinks load the
| page in the correct frame.
|
| However, the problem still exists for all seven links
| that in addition to loading the page in a different frame
| (or page), it also is loading the link in the original
| frame (my header). This is wiping out my navigation
| frame.
|
| How do I get the hyperlink to ONLY load the page in the
| target, and not in the original window also?
|
| Thank for your help!
|
| Shane
| >-----Original Message-----
| >The 3 links won't work because they are pointing to your
| PC
| ><a target="main" href="file:///C:/Documents%20and%
| 20Settings/Shane%20Labuzan/Desktop/webgenFP/hvac.html">
| >
| >File import all pages into your FP web and fix your
| links
| >--
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
| FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| ;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | >| >Provide a URL
| >|
| >| Sure. The site can be accessed at:
| >|
| >|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testi
| >| ndex.htm
| >|
| >| This page has two frames, main and header. Main is
| >| populated with:
| >|
| >|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/hvac.
| >| html
| >|
| >| and header is populated with
| >|
| >|
| http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testn
| >| av.htm
| >|
| >| I have checked the source code in testnav.htm, and sure
| >| enough, the targets are there and listed correctly
| (main
| >| or _blank), but my browser certainly isn't executing it
| >| that way.
| >|
| >| Thanks for your help in advance.
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >

 

[Guest]

Most of you links contaiin target="_blank" instead of

target="main"

That is correct. Of the 7 links in my header frame, 4
are targeted to "_blank", and 3 are targeted to "main".
This is my intent.

And your html is full of local links to your hard drive

and/or a local network connectiuon

As in your images don't show because they are also set to a local network link
http://192.168.2.110/

Thanks for the heads up on that. I did a global change
of the IP address to the correct domain name.

PS
Don't know what scripts you are trying to run, but looks like it's crashing
Server Error: 404 Not Found
Operating System Error Nr:3702786:

S_dosFsLib_FILE_NOT_FOUND

There is a form that I am trying to put together that is
causing that error. It is on the bottom of HVAC.html. I
think that is the only instance of crashing on the
website.

IMHO , drop the shape/word art & start from fresh w/

File New Web and work in your FP web

I may have to do that, but the website seems to be close
to working properly. The hyperlinks are populating the
correct targets with the correct pages. However, they
are also populating the header frame with this page
also. The hyperlink is loading the same page in two
different places. One is the correct target, the other is
the original frame of the hyperlink.

Oddly enough, when I access this site in Opera, the
targeting works correct. When I click on a link in the
header, ONLY the target frame (or a new page) changes.
The navigation header frame remains untouched.
Unfortunately, Opera isn't recognizing a lot of the text
boxes and graphics, but it is executing the hyperlinks
correctly.

Shane Labuzan

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Remove your <base target="main"> tag in the head section of the page

Also nested links are illegal html
<a title="http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/Echelon/AlarmViewActive.htm" target="_blank"
href="http://www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/Echelon/AlarmViewActive.htm">
<font color="#FFFFFF" size="1">ALARMS</font></a></a>

Validate and clean up your entire top frame page




|
| >Most of you links contaiin target="_blank" instead of
| target="main"
|
| That is correct. Of the 7 links in my header frame, 4
| are targeted to "_blank", and 3 are targeted to "main".
| This is my intent.
|
|
| >And your html is full of local links to your hard drive
| and/or a local network connectiuon
| >As in your images don't show because they are also set
| to a local network link
| >http://192.168.2.110/
|
| Thanks for the heads up on that. I did a global change
| of the IP address to the correct domain name.
|
| >PS
| >Don't know what scripts you are trying to run, but looks
| like it's crashing
| >Server Error: 404 Not Found
| >Operating System Error Nr:3702786:
| S_dosFsLib_FILE_NOT_FOUND
|
| There is a form that I am trying to put together that is
| causing that error. It is on the bottom of HVAC.html. I
| think that is the only instance of crashing on the
| website.
|
|
| >IMHO , drop the shape/word art & start from fresh w/
| File New Web and work in your FP web
|
| I may have to do that, but the website seems to be close
| to working properly. The hyperlinks are populating the
| correct targets with the correct pages. However, they
| are also populating the header frame with this page
| also. The hyperlink is loading the same page in two
| different places. One is the correct target, the other is
| the original frame of the hyperlink.
|
| Oddly enough, when I access this site in Opera, the
| targeting works correct. When I click on a link in the
| header, ONLY the target frame (or a new page) changes.
| The navigation header frame remains untouched.
| Unfortunately, Opera isn't recognizing a lot of the text
| boxes and graphics, but it is executing the hyperlinks
| correctly.
|
| Shane Labuzan

 

[Guest]

Ok, I took your advice and started with a new blank page
for my navigation page. I typed in 3 lines of text, and
then linked them to the proper pages with the proper
target frame. Next to them, I created 3 rectangles,
added text, and then linked each of these objects to the
proper pages with the proper target frame.

The 3 text links work properly, loading the main frame
with the correct page.

The 3 rectangles don't. When I click them, the main
frame doesn't change, but the header frame goes blank.

The hyperlink properties for the text links and the
rectangle links are identical.

It looks like I can get this targeting to work, as long
as I only use text links. Is this correct? Is it not
possible to have a graphical object with a hyperlink?

www.theoptimal.mybarricade.com/forms/webgenfp/testindex.ht
m

 

[Guest]

I have figured out a workaround.

The problem resides within the drawing objects
(rectangles) that I created with frontpage. For whatever
reason, these objects don't perform as hyperlinks with
targeted frames. I can use a .gif or .jpg as an object,
and it targets correctly, but not a drawing object
created within Frontpage itself. I will just refrain
from using the draw toolbar when creating links.

Is this a bug? In order to have icons for hyperlinks
that use frames, I have to use a .gif or .jpg. I can't
create a drawing object within Frontpage and save it as
a .gif or .jpg (like I can in Powerpoint).

Will I have to create these rectangles in Powerpoint,
save them as a .gif, and then use them in Frontpage? It
seems like an unecessary step. What is it about the
formatting of these drawing objects that prevents them
from being used as hyperlinks correctly?

Shane

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Just create them as simple buttons in an image editor (or w/ a screen capture tool)

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| I have figured out a workaround.
|
| The problem resides within the drawing objects
| (rectangles) that I created with frontpage. For whatever
| reason, these objects don't perform as hyperlinks with
| targeted frames. I can use a .gif or .jpg as an object,
| and it targets correctly, but not a drawing object
| created within Frontpage itself. I will just refrain
| from using the draw toolbar when creating links.
|
| Is this a bug? In order to have icons for hyperlinks
| that use frames, I have to use a .gif or .jpg. I can't
| create a drawing object within Frontpage and save it as
| a .gif or .jpg (like I can in Powerpoint).
|
| Will I have to create these rectangles in Powerpoint,
| save them as a .gif, and then use them in Frontpage? It
| seems like an unecessary step. What is it about the
| formatting of these drawing objects that prevents them
| from being used as hyperlinks correctly?
|
| Shane