Systen Restore Removal??

W

Willard

WinXPproSP3
Is there a good way to remove the System Restore Program??
I have no use for it since I use backup HDDs..
The system restore folder bogs down O & O defrag to a crawl..
 
J

JS

Start/Control Panel/System/System Restore tab
Place a Check Mark in the "Turn off System Restore on all drives" box.
 
R

Rich Barry

Rt.click MyComputer>select Properties>System Restore>Check Box Turn off
System Restore on all Drives. You can also rt click
MyComputer>select Manage>Services and Apps>Services>System Restore
Service>rt click and select Properties>Startup Type
Choose Disabled.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Willard said:
WinXPproSP3
Is there a good way to remove the System Restore Program??
I have no use for it since I use backup HDDs..
The system restore folder bogs down O & O defrag to a crawl..

It shouldn't, unless you've set aside too much space for it (like, say, over
1 GB). Anyways, it's an imprudent idea to remove it, even if you do use
backups.
 
G

Gerry

Willard

Do your run Disk CleanUp or cCleaner before defragmenting? You should be
doing that!

You can do as JS suggests or use the option in Disk CleanUp, which
leaves the option to use system restore if your other backup option
fails.

Select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Defragmenter

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
W

Willard

I was hoping to be able to remove the 4.5GB of "System Volume
Information" from my system, which chokes the defrag, even after disk
cleanup..

I will never use the system restore feature..

I always have a recent backup HDD and a week old backup HDD which are
duplicates of the C::\ in case the C:\ becomes unbootable or messed up....

Several times I have cloned the recent backup HDD back to the C:\ in
time of trouble..
 
J

Jim

Replies inline---
Willard said:
I was hoping to be able to remove the 4.5GB of "System Volume Information"
from my system, which chokes the defrag, even after disk cleanup
Disk cleanup does not remove restore points. You have a choice of removing
all points except the last one (I can't remember how to do this) or really
removing all points.
To remove all points, disable system restore on all drives.
After completion of this task, enable system restore. You then disable
system restore on all disks except the system drive.
I will never use the system restore feature.. Never say never.

I always have a recent backup HDD and a week old backup HDD which are
duplicates of the C::\ in case the C:\ becomes unbootable or messed
up....

Several times I have cloned the recent backup HDD back to the C:\ in time
of trouble.
You should hardly ever need to do this. I have had to rebuild the system on
this computer once in five years. (I did so to recover from a cockpit
problem). System restore is not the tool for restoring the entire disk
anyway.Jim
 
J

Jose

WinXPproSP3
Is there a good way to remove the System Restore Program??
I have no use for it since I use backup HDDs..
The system restore folder bogs down O & O defrag to a crawl..

When you get done, please let us know how much faster your system is
without SR running, how much disk space you recovered after deleting
all that useless SR information and finally, what percentage
improvement you see in your defrag from a crawl (walking, running,
sprinting...).

Do you know what SR does (beside bog your system down).

If you can't boot your primary HDD, will you be able to boon on your
backup HDD?

"We'll not only give 'em the gun, we'll load if for 'em".
 
T

Twayne

Bill in Co. said:
It shouldn't, unless you've set aside too much space for it (like,
say, over 1 GB). Anyways, it's an imprudent idea to remove it, even
if you do use backups.

But it only needs to monitor the (usually) C drive, not all drive
letters if there are more drives. It's only for the System Files, so it
wastes time & space to monitor other non-system file containing drives.
The default is to monitor all drives, which is not of any benefit.

Twayne`
 
T

Twayne

Willard said:
I was hoping to be able to remove the 4.5GB of "System Volume
Information" from my system, which chokes the defrag, even after disk
cleanup..

I will never use the system restore feature..

I always have a recent backup HDD and a week old backup HDD which are
duplicates of the C::\ in case the C:\ becomes unbootable or messed
up....
Several times I have cloned the recent backup HDD back to the C:\ in
time of trouble..

I understand your opinion and to a degree it makes sense. I keep
monitoring on drive C on though, so if I develop a problem from an
install/uninstall/whatever that seems like a sy stem problem I can get a
quick rollback without losing the day's work snce the last backup. If it
works it's a lot faster than a Restore and if not, not much time lost.
I also brought the space allocation down to where it only keeps about
4 restore points; it takes little experimentation but it doesn't need
the full default setting.
It's been explained how to turn it off, so I won't go there.

Twayne
 
T

Twayne

Your Inlines would be a lot more readable if you could add the blank
line before and after your typing. Notice how others do it and then
take a look at yours.
 
G

Gerry

Willard

You should not attempt to remove the System Volume Information folder as
it contains system files not involved with System Restore. Disabling
sytem restore so that restore points are not created is as far as you
should go.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Twayne has made a telling point. If you revert to a backup that is a
week old you lose a week's work. Some data files you will not be able to
recreate or recover. Using System Restore is quicker and avoids this
situation. If you have had restore failures in the past a little time
studying what causes restore failure will mean you avoid that
unfortunate outcome. Most restore failures occur because the user is
using Norton, which needs to be turned off before attempting to restore,
and another common reason is monitoring removable drives. You only need
to monitor the partition containing Windows!
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

You might find another Defragmenter does a better job An interesting
relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home
users). It comes from the software house providing cCleaner:
http://www.defraggler.com/features

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
T

Tim Meddick

Willard,
Turning off the 'System Restore' utility (see earlier post
by "JS") for all drives should remove all the 'System Volume
Information' folders from your drives.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
W

Willard

Jose said:
When you get done, please let us know how much faster your system is
without SR running, how much disk space you recovered after deleting
all that useless SR information and finally, what percentage
improvement you see in your defrag from a crawl (walking, running,
sprinting...).

Do you know what SR does (beside bog your system down).

If you can't boot your primary HDD, will you be able to boon on your
backup HDD?

"We'll not only give 'em the gun, we'll load if for 'em".
When c:\ won't boot I have cloned my backup from a boot floppy just fine..
 
W

Willard

Thanks for the information..
I have decided to just turn off the sytem restore feature..
 

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