System doent detect new hard drive

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Professor2839

:) I have a system running Windows Me, with 1gb Pentium 3 processor
and 256mb memory.
I bought a new hdd (samsung 80gb SP0802N) and left the original drive
in place with the intention of using driveimage or similar to
transfer all the data accross, but the system did not detect the new
drive. :( I then tried removing the original hdd to make the system
autodetect the new hdd but it didnt.
I then tried the same with an older machine which did detect the drive
and allowed me to format it but showed it only as 33000mb When I
tried with both drives in the first machine the BIOS detected both
drives (80gb showing as 33000mb) but when I boot up there is no icon
for the new drive.
:idea: I know that some older BIOS have problems detecting larger
hdd and the use of LBA overlays, but surely my system should detect
the new drive.
:?: :?: Anyone out there can help me.
 
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Rod Speed

:) I have a system running Windows Me, with
1gb Pentium 3 processor and 256mb memory.
I bought a new hdd (samsung 80gb SP0802N) and
left the original drive in place with the intention of
using driveimage or similar to transfer all the data
accross, but the system did not detect the new drive. :(

What do you mean by 'the system' ?

Did it get listed on the black bios screen at boot time ?
I then tried removing the original hdd to make
the system autodetect the new hdd but it didnt.

The new drive does have to be jumpered correctly.

Best quick check is to jumper it the same as the original
drive is jumpered and try it instead of the original drive
initially. If its found then, you should be able to rejumper
it so both can be used at once for the copy.
I then tried the same with an older machine which
did detect the drive and allowed me to format it

Most likely the jumper config required is different for the two PCs.
but showed it only as 33000mb

You should have used an AUTO drive type
on the bios for that drive and likely you didnt
in that PC and thats what produced that.
When I tried with both drives in the first
machine the BIOS detected both drives

Likely its still not correctly jumpered and you're just getting
a different result with bad jumpering with it formatted.
(80gb showing as 33000mb)

Thats not surprising since it was formatted to that in the other PC.
but when I boot up there is no icon for the new drive.

Win does a fresh scan for drives and if you have it
wrongly jumpered, you can get a different result with
the two scans for drives, in the bios and in Win.
:idea: I know that some older BIOS
have problems detecting larger hdd

Yes, but the usual thing with a bios that has a problem
with drives over 32GB is that it freezes at boot time.
and the use of LBA overlays, but surely
my system should detect the new drive.

Yes, if it didnt freeze it should have at least listed
the drive on the black bios screen at boot time
with something close to that model number listed.
:?: :?: Anyone out there can help me.

Most likely you just dont have it jumpered properly.
Simplify things by jumpering it the same as the
original drive and just have the new drive on the
same connector the original drive was on for a test.
Once that is listed on the black bios screen at boot
time, work out from how its jumpered what needs
to be done to use both at once. You either need
to have both drives jumpered for cable select if
the original drive was jumpered cable select or
need to have one jumpered as master and the other
as slave if the original drive was jumpered as slave.
You should have an AUTO drive type right thru
the drive table, but be careful on that with the
original drive if it isnt, leave that one alone initially.

Once you get both drives seen both on the black bios
screen and in Win, you can then proceed from there.

You'll probably need to wipe the new
drive with something like clearhdd from
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/clearhdd.htm
to fix the problem with it being seen as 33GB.
Safest to do that with just that drive plugged in.
Then you can clone the original drive to the new
one using drive image and you dont need to format it.
 

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