Subject: WANTED: Singel CPU based board with 64bit PCI-X slot (NO PCI-e)

[MoRpHeUs]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I'm looking for a mainboard that meets the below requirements:

- Singel processor based mainboard (can be INTEL or AMD based board!)
- 1 AGP 8x Graphic Slot.
- Minimal 2 PCI slots.
- Minimal 1 PCI-X 64bit slot
(please do not confused by PCI-e that sometimes is wrong credited as
PCI-X!!!)

If you can help me, please give me: brand & model number of the board.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Dhr. Geert Pirens

 

[Paul]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I'm looking for a mainboard that meets the below requirements:

- Singel processor based mainboard (can be INTEL or AMD based board!)
- 1 AGP 8x Graphic Slot.
- Minimal 2 PCI slots.
- Minimal 1 PCI-X 64bit slot
(please do not confused by PCI-e that sometimes is wrong credited as
PCI-X!!!)

If you can help me, please give me: brand & model number of the board.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Dhr. Geert Pirens

Look for a board with Hance Rapids 6300ESB Southbridge. The following
board is 12"x9.8", and is roughly the normal desktop size. Populate
with one processor, to meet your objective. The PCI-X is 66MHz.

http://www.asus.com.tw/prog/spec.asp?m=NCCH-DL&langs=01 12" x 9.8"
http://www.asus.com.tw/prog/spec.asp?m=PCH-DL&langs=01 12" x 10.5"

To determine what kind of processor to use in the above boards, see:

http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

This DFI board takes a Pentium-M processor (will run cool). AGP
slot is only 4X. Southbridge is 6300ESB.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2342&p=9
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_pr....jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3350&CATEGORY_TYPE=MB&SITE=US

This forum might be a good place to look for more ideas -

http://forums.2cpu.com

There are plenty of server boards out there that will meet your
requirements, but I take it you are looking for desktop board
dimensions 12"x9.6" and not some extended form factor like 12"x13".
Have a look at www.tyan.com .

HTH,
Paul

 

[MoRpHeUs]

Hi,

Thanks for your reaction!

I can't find a mainboard who has both PCI-X and AGP 8x.
The boards out there have only 4x AGP slot or do have a intergrated video
controller with 8mb video ram memory.

I cant imagin that I'm the only person who's looking with these
requirements!?

I think the best way is to write to ALL mainboard vendors over the world to
see whats out there meeting my requirements.

Thanks for al these TIP's !!!

Regards,
Geert

 

[Michael W. Ryder]

Hi,

Thanks for your reaction!

I can't find a mainboard who has both PCI-X and AGP 8x.
The boards out there have only 4x AGP slot or do have a intergrated video
controller with 8mb video ram memory.

If you would have gone to Tyan's site you would have found boards like
their Thunder i7505 (S2665) which has an 8x AGP port 2 PCI slots, 2
64-bit PCI-X 100/66 MHz slots, and 1 133/100/66 MHz PCI-X slot. The
board does support dual Xeon processors but should work with just one
CPU. Plus there might be other boards on their site that better meet
your needs. This board is not cheap costing about $550, but does meet
your specs.

 

[Flintstone]

No, you are definitely not the only person. I have just bought a PCI
SATA RAID card and then discovered that it will not run at ful speed
due to it being on a 32 bit PCI bus and have just have a very long
thread where it was discussed at length.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/al...7d2c38729b2/0f7552fd87d24337#0f7552fd87d24337

I believe there must be a mainboard (with ATX form factor) that has the
following specs:
PCI-X
PCIe (Not so important but would be more futureproof)
AGP 8x
Single Processor (or dual with the option to just use single)
Athlon XP Support

Hmm ... I have been thinking about this and maybe there are adapters
for using PCI-X cards on PCIe and maybe AGP cards also can use such an
adapter.

If they exist then that really would solve our problems.

I looked for the whole day yesterday looking for a similar board and
did not find a single one that met that spec. I think I will look for
adapters today and see if it is possible to get around the problem that
way.

 

[Paul]

No, you are definitely not the only person. I have just bought a PCI
SATA RAID card and then discovered that it will not run at ful speed
due to it being on a 32 bit PCI bus and have just have a very long
thread where it was discussed at length.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/al...7d2c38729b2/0f7552fd87d24337#0f7552fd87d24337

I believe there must be a mainboard (with ATX form factor) that has the
following specs:
PCI-X
PCIe (Not so important but would be more futureproof)
AGP 8x
Single Processor (or dual with the option to just use single)
Athlon XP Support

Hmm ... I have been thinking about this and maybe there are adapters
for using PCI-X cards on PCIe and maybe AGP cards also can use such an
adapter.

If they exist then that really would solve our problems.

I looked for the whole day yesterday looking for a similar board and
did not find a single one that met that spec. I think I will look for
adapters today and see if it is possible to get around the problem that
way.

What you are forgetting, is the motherboard manufacturers have defined "markets"
for products. Somewhere, on stone tablets, it says that a desktop motherboard
(12"x9.6") shalt not have decent I/O bandwidth. Thou shalt buy a 12"x13" server
motherboard, monster custom computer case, big ass power supply, and so on.
Once you've paid that $$$ "entry fee", then you can enjoy "life in the
fast lane".
There are only a few exceptions to the rule.

The ingredients are now available to make some very fine "desktop server"
boards,
if the motherboard makers recognized the need. All the chips that have
Hypertransport busses on them, are just like Lego - just snap them together
to do what is needed. Between Nvidia and AMD, there are enough bridges to make
some interesting boards. (The same can be said for Intel, but judging by the
time and effort that Supermicro puts into designing their products, I
don't think
the job is nearly as easy.)

"Lego", AMD style...
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_9004,00.html

Apple recognized this need, and you can see the kids "racing their dragsters"
over here. A 400+ MB/sec array transfer rate is pretty impressive.

http://www.barefeats.com/hard45.html

Paul

 

[Jarp]

Supermicro P4SCT solves the problem:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/P4/875/P4SCT.cfm

Best regards

J. Rybner

 

[Rob Stow]

Supermicro P4SCT solves the problem:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/P4/875/P4SCT.cfm

Best regards

J. Rybner

Nice feature set on that board, even though it is a little dated,
except it means you are stuck with a P4. Its going to be
interesting to see what SuperMicro comes out with now that they
are allegedly going to start making boards for AMD64 chips.