Startup Programs

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Guest

Sorry this is so long but I have some specific questions I haven't really
found answers for. I have XP but dialup. My startup is so slow. I printed out
the startup programs & it is almost a page long. What do I really need? I
have read artilcles that say you only need your anti virus, but still have
some questions. I don't know where to look up these specific programs to see
exactly what they are. I am thinking my anti virus stuff, printer stuff(5
programs). But like Adobe can't that just start when I need to read something
with it? I have 4 different desktop.ini, is MSMSGS for IM? What is HPDJ
Taskbar utility? What about IgfxTray? Pointer? SunJavaupdate
sched?TKBell.exe?Quicktimetask? If someone could tell me where to go(be nice)
I can look these up. Thanks.
 
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Shenan Stanley

meowkatt2002 said:
Sorry this is so long but I have some specific questions I haven't
really found answers for. I have XP but dialup. My startup is so
slow. I printed out the startup programs & it is almost a page
long. What do I really need? I have read artilcles that say you
only need your anti virus, but still have some questions. I don't
know where to look up these specific programs to see exactly what
they are. I am thinking my anti virus stuff, printer stuff(5
programs). But like Adobe can't that just start when I need to read
something with it? I have 4 different desktop.ini, is MSMSGS for
IM? What is HPDJ Taskbar utility? What about IgfxTray? Pointer?
SunJavaupdate sched?TKBell.exe?Quicktimetask? If someone could tell
me where to go(be nice) I can look these up. Thanks.

Long - hah...

Tip 13...
(Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to read through and follow the rest of the tips
too...)

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )

Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the
various things that could happen to you/it:

Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/

Outfitting a new computer for the Net
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/update/newcomputer.mspx

Getting started with a new PC
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/yournewpc.mspx

Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should
know above and beyond that. Below I have detailed out many tips
that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but keep it clean,
secure and running at its best.

I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot
to take in for a novice - however I can assure you that one trip
through this list and you will understand your computer and the
options available to you for protecting your data much better -
and that the next time you go through these steps, the time it
takes will be greatly reduced.

Let's take the cleanup of your computer step-by-step.
Yes, it will take up some of your time - but consider what you use
your computer for and how much you would dislike it if all of your
stuff on your computer went away because you did not "feel like"
performing some simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking
out your garbage, collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying
your bills on time, etc.

I'll mainly work around Windows XP, as that is what the bulk of this
document is about; however, here is some places for you poor souls
still stuck in Windows 98/ME where you can get information on
maintaining your system:

Windows 98 and 'Maintaining Your Computer':
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/

Windows ME Computer Health:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsME/using/computerhealth/articles/

Pay close attention to the sections:
(in order)
- Clean up your hard disk
- Check for errors by running ScanDisk
- Defragment your hard disk
- Roll back the clock with System Restore


Also - now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )


Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be
done once (mostly):

Tip (1):
Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer.
(the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc)
Collect these CDs and files together in a central and safe
place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these
installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner
and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you
have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a
duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:

ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use):
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

ImgBurn (burn ISO images)
http://www.imgburn.com/

Final Burner
http://www.protectedsoft.com/products.php

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.

Ahead Nero
http://www.nero.com/

Roxio Easy Media Creator
http://www.roxio.com/

Tip (2):
Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

Tip (3):
If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system
(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want to look into
tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging'
Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:

Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section,
Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you
now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying
"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last
three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the
other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one
(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Another viable (decently inexpensive) option is to increase the amount
of memory (RAM) your computer has. You can get an idea of what you
need by visiting:

Crucial Memory AdvisorT Tool
http://www.crucial.com/

Then either buy direct from there or write down the specs you get and
visit: http://www.pricewatch.com/ and locate the best price on what you
need. 512MB up to 1GB total memory should be more than enough for
the normal home user.

Tip (4):
Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your
personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password
your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where
no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always
"in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely
have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that
you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should
understand and utilize good passwords.

Good passwords are those that meet these general rules
(mileage may vary):

Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character
string should contain at least three of these four character types:
- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that
describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their
password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase.
It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary
in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is:
'Great new job in November 2006'
I could come up with this password from that:
'Gr8n3wj0bNOV2006'

The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly
recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time
varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for
every account you have.'

Also - many people complain that they just cannot remember the passwords
for all the sites they have - so they choose one password and use it for
everything. Not a good idea. A much better method would be to use a
Password Management tool - so you only have to remember one password,
but it opens an application that stores your username/passwords for
everything else - plus other valuable information. One that I can
recommend:

KeePass Password Safe
http://keepass.sourceforge.net/

It can even generate passwords for you.


Tip (5):
This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however -
if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people
after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.

Why you should use a computer firewall..
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/viruses/fwbenefits.mspx

You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice
Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of
these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people
don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device
for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment
to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would
have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it
is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any
case, however:

More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855

Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance:
http://snipurl.com/atal

The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things
out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is
MORE than sufficient. You may feel otherwise. If you want to
know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the
outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a
third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a
list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose
from:

BlackICE PC Protection (~$39.95 and up)
http://blackice.iss.net/

Comodo Free Fireall (Free)
http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/

Jetico Personal Firewall (Free)
http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm

Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/

Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
http://www.zonelabs.com/

You should find the right firewall for your situation in that
list and set it up if you feel the Windows XP firewall is
insufficient.

Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for
patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is
the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your
firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.

** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software
firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some
protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run. It is
fine (and in many ways better) to have the software firewall as well
as a NAT router.


Now that you have some of the more basic things down..
Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to
maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not
done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however,
they will become routine and some can even be scheduled.


Tip (6):
The system restore feature is only a useful feature if you keep it
maintained and use it to your advantage. Remember that the system
restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects which is
'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is NOT
system files - so you should also look into some backup solution.

Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine
once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore
and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

Another option that seems to still be going strong:

Cobian Backup
http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://snipurl.com/13e00

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

BootItT NG
http://terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

Tip (7):
You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are
installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more
than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them
there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and
certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)

This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:

How to Uninstall Programs
http://snipurl.com/8v6b

How to change or remove a program in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307895

A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need
in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation
media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!

Tip (8):
Patches and Updates!

This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected
by many people. It is really simple for the critical Microsoft patches!
Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do
NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is
fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical
systems.

Windows Update
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when
selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days,
go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the
'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you
downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall
them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one
with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns.
Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I
mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is
MUCH better than the alternatives.

Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions
of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay
and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best
to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:

Microsoft Office Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/
(and select 'Check for Updates' and/or 'Downloads' for more)

You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on
your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and
so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers'
hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I
mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter
how tempting.

How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the
invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:

Belarc Advisor
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your
hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you
have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative
Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...

NVidia Video Card Drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

ATI Video Card Drivers
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

Creative Labs Sound Device
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

C-Media Sound Device
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/?q=en/driver

Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and
may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.

As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this
particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the
Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD
http://snipurl.com/d41v

If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that.
In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

ca Anti-Virus (~$49.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e0u

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/kav6

McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/antivirus2007.htm
(Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e12

Trend Micro (~$44.95 and up)
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/desktop/tav/
(Free Online Scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp)

Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to
look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally
settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and
perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a
full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)

Tip (10):
The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE.
You need to eliminate it from your machine.

There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against
everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you
only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and
I recommend you use at least the first five.

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)
(If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the
LATEST version from the page given!)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/products/ad-aware_se_personal.php
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD2 (Free!)
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/uiuc/resource.htm#IESPYAD
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

SuperAntiSpyware (Free and up)
http://www.superantispyware.com/

CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!)
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

Hijack This! (Free!)
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
(Log Analyzer: http://hjt.networktechs.com/ )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Browser Security Tests (Free Tester)
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester (Free Tester)
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/

Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in
order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have
(or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and
SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively
protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these
editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they
take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience
you may be feeling.

Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.

Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest
'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:

Mozilla Firefox
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/


So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections
above as a guide, it should stay that way as well! There are still a few
more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.

Tip (11):
You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment
them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of
outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in
your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean
before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months.
For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice
afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in
between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can
increase the time.

Tip (12):
SPAM! JUNK MAIL!
This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
although there are services out there to help you, some email
servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
maker on what is spam and what is not. I have a few products to suggest
to you, look at them and see if any of them suite your needs. Again, if
they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

SpamBayes (Free!)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

Spamihilator (Free!)
http://www.spamihilator.com/

MailWasher
http://www.mailwasher.net/

As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
seen function for hundreds+ people.

Tip (13):
ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your
computer!

There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default
you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all
of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according
to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed
and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I
look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry
about someone exploiting.

Service Configuration Tips
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Configuring Services
http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

Task List Programs
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/

There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start
up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these
I have found here:

Startups
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php


If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as
well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly
stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Sorry this is so long but I have some specific questions I haven't really
found answers for. I have XP but dialup. My startup is so slow.


How slow is "so slow"?

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.


I printed out
the startup programs & it is almost a page long. What do I really need? I
have read artilcles that say you only need your anti virus, but still have
some questions. I don't know where to look up these specific programs to see
exactly what they are. I am thinking my anti virus stuff, printer stuff(5
programs). But like Adobe can't that just start when I need to read something
with it? I have 4 different desktop.ini, is MSMSGS for IM? What is HPDJ
Taskbar utility? What about IgfxTray? Pointer? SunJavaupdate
sched?TKBell.exe?Quicktimetask? If someone could tell me where to go(be nice)
I can look these up. Thanks.


You don't *need* anything starting. What you start automatically are
those programs that *you* find valuable to have running when Windows
starts. Those obviously include your security programs, but almost
everything else is up to you. We all work differently and have
different needs and desires. For example, I have my E-mail client
start automatically, because I keep it open all day, and have it check
my mail frequently. You may not be interested in doing that.

If you do want to address the slow startup, it *may* be (there can be
other factors too) because of what programs start automatically, and
you may want to stop some of them from starting that way. On each
program you don't want to start automatically, check its Options to
see if it has the choice not to start (make sure you actually choose
the option not to run it, not just a "don't show icon" option). Many
can easily and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run
MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck
the programs you don't want to start automatically.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of
running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell
you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs
you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but
others have no effect on performance.

Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do
is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what
the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get
more information about these at
http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there,
try google searches and ask about specifics here.
 
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David Starr

meowkatt2002 said:
Sorry this is so long but I have some specific questions I haven't really
found answers for. I have XP but dialup. My startup is so slow. I printed out
the startup programs & it is almost a page long. What do I really need? I
have read artilcles that say you only need your anti virus, but still have
some questions. I don't know where to look up these specific programs to see
exactly what they are. I am thinking my anti virus stuff, printer stuff(5
programs). But like Adobe can't that just start when I need to read something
with it? I have 4 different desktop.ini, is MSMSGS for IM? What is HPDJ
Taskbar utility? What about IgfxTray? Pointer? SunJavaupdate
sched?TKBell.exe?Quicktimetask? If someone could tell me where to go(be nice)
I can look these up. Thanks.

The startup programs all slow your boot, consume memory and run time.
Fewer is better. I have had reasonable luck just putting the name of
the offending program into google. Lots of guys have published lists
of what you need and what you don't need on the web. Doing a search on
a program name will get you to these lists. In fact I usually get hits
on two or three places. If all the places say the same thing, go for
it. If they contradict each other beware.
David Starr
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

The startup programs all slow your boot, consume memory and run time.


*Some* startup programs do those things. Others do not

Fewer is better.


That depends entirely on what they are, not to mention how important
the functions they provide are to you.
 
D

David Starr

*Some* startup programs do those things. Others do not




That depends entirely on what they are, not to mention how important
the functions they provide are to you.

Here is my list of startup programs on an XP (w service pak 2) Media
Center Compaq Presario SR1750NX .

1.(Default) Loaded from Registry run key. Function/necessity (if any)
unknown.
2. Belkin Wireless Utility. Wireless card driver
3. Ctfmon.exe. Unkillable resource hog.
4. ehTray. Function/necessity obscure. May be part of Media Center
5. HP software update. Checks HP website for patches
6. HP Boot Optimizer. Function/necessity obscure, Google gives no
information
7. KBD. Intercepts fancy non traditional keys and launches assorted
programs.
8. Kernel Fault Check. Function/necessity unknown.
9. Overself Research Microscheduler. Checks the FPROT antivirus website
for new virus definitions.
10. PDCrProfiler Function/necessity unknown
11. Skype. VIOP telephone service. Cheap long distance calling
12. SunJava Update Scheduler. Checks Sun website for patches.
13. TkBellExe. Part of Real Player. Function/necessity unknown.
14. ZoneAlarm. Fire wall to plug WinXP security holes.

Of these 14 startup programs only the wireless driver, Skype, Zonealarm
and possibly KBD don anything I care about much. In fact, I ought to
kill off KBD 'cause I never ever launch programs with fancy keys, I
always use the mouse. The only reason KBD is still there is 'cause the
idea of dead fancy keys is unesthetic.
I have spent some time researching cftmon.exe. It supports text to
speech (which I never use) and fancy text support for obscure foreign
languages. Two MSA knowledge base articles describe how to kill it, and
neither works. Some helpful "repair and restore" activity hiding
somewhere replaced its registry run key after I zapped it, and even
replaced its disc file after I zapped that. I haven't yet found the
helpful repair & restore util to turn it off.
Bottom line. Three startup programs do something useful. One is a pure
resource hog. Ten are of unknown or questionable value.

Any info on the function or necessity of any of these startup
programs is welcome.

David Starr
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

*Some* startup programs do those things. Others do not




That depends entirely on what they are, not to mention how important
the functions they provide are to you.

Here is my list of startup programs on an XP (w service pak 2) Media
Center Compaq Presario SR1750NX .

[Snipped]
Of these 14 startup programs only the wireless driver, Skype, Zonealarm
and possibly KBD don anything I care about much. In fact, I ought to
kill off KBD 'cause I never ever launch programs with fancy keys, I
always use the mouse. The only reason KBD is still there is 'cause the
idea of dead fancy keys is unesthetic.
I have spent some time researching cftmon.exe. It supports text to
speech (which I never use) and fancy text support for obscure foreign
languages. Two MSA knowledge base articles describe how to kill it, and
neither works. Some helpful "repair and restore" activity hiding
somewhere replaced its registry run key after I zapped it, and even
replaced its disc file after I zapped that. I haven't yet found the
helpful repair & restore util to turn it off.
Bottom line. Three startup programs do something useful. One is a pure
resource hog. Ten are of unknown or questionable value.


Removing startup programs that you don't find useful is fine. I'm
certainly not against that; in fact I'm for it. Many, if not most,
people have useless programs starting automatically, and some of them
often hurt their performance. Almost everyone would do well to review
what's there, as you did, and get rid of what they don't need.

The points I was making were that not *all* of them necessarily hurt
performance, and your concern should be with *which* are starting
automatically, not how many there are.
 
G

Guest

Mr. Starr,

I would very much appreciate it if you would read this problem I have
described, and if you can solve it, I would be grateful.

If you can't but no the right place to send this question to, please advise
me on that.

I am new to the forum and have trouble navigating the forum.
You seemed to know a great deal about windows. my Warranty service tag with
Dell expired. Usually I solve things via email with them but they are now
charging 60 bucks a question.

Here it goes:

I don’t like the Security Center Shield Icon appearing in my task bar, and I
don’t like the The pop up voice balloon that appears every time I log on to
my pc, (each time I boot the pc) is extremely annoying and I don’t want to
see it, ever.

I followed the procedure to remove Security Center, LM Security, and
Security Account Manager from my Start up programs by using
Run
Msconfig

Also, I followed the help section procedure to turn off security alerts by
selecting “change the way Security Center alerts me. I checked the box
beside and checked OK

There is that note: Notes
• When you turn off Security Center alerts, the Security Center continues to
check and display status in the Security Center.
I don’t want this happening on my PC. I think this started after I agreed to
update to a newer version of Windows XP, as a pop up box suggested.

I used this procedure next:
Taskbar and Start Menu Properties
Task Bar
Customize
Always Hide
OK
Apply
Ok
The Security Center Shield Icon correctly disappears from the task bar.
However, when I shut down the pc and later boot it up again, the shield Icon
is right back there in the tray, and when I go through the above procedure
again, the pull down menu that I had previously changed to Always Hide, the
choice in the pull down menu has changed on its own to Hide When Inactive. I
want Always Hide . And I don’t want that to change when I reboot.

I feel that this can be corrected, I just don’t know how. Can you tell me
the step by step procedure to permanently hide the icon? The pop up voice
balloon that appears every time I log on to my pc, (each time I boot the pc)
is extremely annoying and I don’t want to see it, ever.

I tried to remove the whole Security Center program using
Control Panel
Add or Remove Programs
But the Security Center does not appear in the populated list. So I can’t
remove the Security Center program this way. If there is another way to
remove that program, please tell me that procedure.
I use McAfee Security Center. That’s all I want on my pc. It works fine.
Thank you
Frank Fiore
 
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David Starr

frank said:
Mr. Starr,

I would very much appreciate it if you would read this problem I have
described, and if you can solve it, I would be grateful.

If you can't but no the right place to send this question to, please advise
me on that.

I am new to the forum and have trouble navigating the forum.
You seemed to know a great deal about windows. my Warranty service tag with
Dell expired. Usually I solve things via email with them but they are now
charging 60 bucks a question.

Here it goes:

I don’t like the Security Center Shield Icon appearing in my task bar, and I
don’t like the The pop up voice balloon that appears every time I log on to
my pc, (each time I boot the pc) is extremely annoying and I don’t want to
see it, ever.

I followed the procedure to remove Security Center, LM Security, and
Security Account Manager from my Start up programs by using
Run
Msconfig

Also, I followed the help section procedure to turn off security alerts by
selecting “change the way Security Center alerts me. I checked the box
beside and checked OK

There is that note: Notes
• When you turn off Security Center alerts, the Security Center continues to
check and display status in the Security Center.
I don’t want this happening on my PC. I think this started after I agreed to
update to a newer version of Windows XP, as a pop up box suggested.

I used this procedure next:
Taskbar and Start Menu Properties
Task Bar
Customize
Always Hide
OK
Apply
Ok
The Security Center Shield Icon correctly disappears from the task bar.
However, when I shut down the pc and later boot it up again, the shield Icon
is right back there in the tray, and when I go through the above procedure
again, the pull down menu that I had previously changed to Always Hide, the
choice in the pull down menu has changed on its own to Hide When Inactive. I
want Always Hide . And I don’t want that to change when I reboot.

I feel that this can be corrected, I just don’t know how. Can you tell me
the step by step procedure to permanently hide the icon? The pop up voice
balloon that appears every time I log on to my pc, (each time I boot the pc)
is extremely annoying and I don’t want to see it, ever.

I tried to remove the whole Security Center program using
Control Panel
Add or Remove Programs
But the Security Center does not appear in the populated list. So I can’t
remove the Security Center program this way. If there is another way to
remove that program, please tell me that procedure.
I use McAfee Security Center. That’s all I want on my pc. It works fine.
Thank you
Frank Fiore
Frank,
First, let me apologize for the delay in getting back to you. I
haven't been reading this newgroup for a while. I just saw your posting
today.
My machine doesn't have the Security Center Icon on the taskbar.
It's been missing for a long time, perhaps since I bought the machine. I
don't remember for sure. I just checked my list of tweaks and failed to
find a notation explaining how and when I killed off the security
center, which makes me think my machine came with the security center
icon out of the tray. I checked Start->Settings->control
Panel->Security Center. I have Virus Monitoring turned off. I am
running an old DOS virus program FPROT 'cause its free, but Security
Center doesn't understand it. It may be that that the "not monitored"
setting makes the icon go away from your tray.
Have you tried right clicking on the tray icon? Some of the icons in
my tray offer a "disable" option when right clicked upon.
If neither setting the not monitored state or right clicking on the
icon kills the offending icon out of your tray, then I am out of good
ideas. You can try googling or going thru the on line help. I have had
excellent luck over the years with google. Any hacker who solves a
problem is so proud of his solution that he posts it on the net.
Far as I can tell, security center is pure nagware. It whines if it
sees no firewall, it whines if it sees no antivirus, and it whines if
automatic updates is turned off. If your fire wall is on, your anti
virus running, and automatic updates on, you don't really need a piece
of nagware soaking up machine resources to nag you to turn on what you
have already turned on. In short, I see nothing wrong with blowing
security center away for good, if you can find a way to do it.

David Starr
 

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