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tg

gotta rave about my new ssd. For anyone who's um'ing and ar'ing about
whether to go for an ssd I would say go for it. I've just fitted a new Intel
X-25 160Gb drive, bit pricey but the speed increase is noticeable. My win7
pc boots up and shuts down in less than half the time of a normal sata drive
and programs load really quick. Everything is faster with an ssd resulting a
whole new computing experience.
 
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123Jim

tg said:
gotta rave about my new ssd. For anyone who's um'ing and ar'ing about
whether to go for an ssd I would say go for it. I've just fitted a new
Intel
X-25 160Gb drive, bit pricey but the speed increase is noticeable. My win7
pc boots up and shuts down in less than half the time of a normal sata
drive
and programs load really quick. Everything is faster with an ssd resulting
a
whole new computing experience.

Is there a limit for the number of read write operations for your solid
state drive? .. That is/was the case for USB pen drives, which I believe is
the same technology.
 
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John McGaw

Is there a limit for the number of read write operations for your solid
state drive? .. That is/was the case for USB pen drives, which I believe is
the same technology.

There is a theoretical limit but it is _very_ high. The manufacturer sets
aside a section of the NAND flash memory as spare capacity (different
manufacturers and different controllers and different firmware set the
amount) and the controller keeps track of main memory blocks which seems to
be going bad and swaps them out in the background. The controller also
'levels' the read/write usage of the blocks so that all areas get
more-or-less the same wear. Controllers and memory seem to be refined
enough now that makers no longer warn against putting the OS swap file on
an SSD
 
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Rod Speed

tg said:
gotta rave about my new ssd. For anyone who's um'ing and ar'ing about
whether to go for an ssd I would say go for it. I've just fitted a
new Intel X-25 160Gb drive, bit pricey but the speed increase is
noticeable. My win7 pc boots up and shuts down in less than half the
time of a normal sata drive

You can do a lot better than that by hibernating instead of shutting down or suspend to ram in spades.

For nothing.
and programs load really quick.

They load even quicker if you dont stop them when you stop using them.
Everything is faster with an ssd resulting a whole new computing experience.

Which can get much more cheaply in other ways.
 
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tg

Which can get much more cheaply in other ways.

like what? a faster processor? I got a quad core amd phenom II, not sure I
can currently get much faster than that.
like lots of ram? already got 8Gb
no this ssd made a real difference - I can't think of any other mod that
could have created the same effect. Unless you know of one...
 
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cjt

gotta rave about my new ssd. For anyone who's um'ing and ar'ing about
whether to go for an ssd I would say go for it. I've just fitted a new
Intel
X-25 160Gb drive, bit pricey but the speed increase is noticeable. My win7
pc boots up and shuts down in less than half the time of a normal sata
drive
and programs load really quick. Everything is faster with an ssd
resulting a
whole new computing experience.

I tried one. I didn't think it was worth the price. Maybe in a few
more years I'll try again.

Very little of what I do is constrained by disk drives, anyway. Most
things here are stored on a RAID array that will handle multiple
video streams without breaking a sweat, and most of the system stays up
for months at a time.
 
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Rod Speed

like what?

I already told you in the quoting you carefully deleted, stupid.
a faster processor? I got a quad core amd phenom II, not sure I can currently get much faster than that.
like lots of ram? already got 8Gb
no this ssd made a real difference - I can't think of any other mod
that could have created the same effect. Unless you know of one...

I already told you about two. You just deleted them from the quoting.
 
T

tg

I tried one. I didn't think it was worth the price. Maybe in a few
more years I'll try again.

Very little of what I do is constrained by disk drives, anyway. Most
things here are stored on a RAID array that will handle multiple
video streams without breaking a sweat, and most of the system stays up
for months at a time.
it's true some ssd's aren't worth the money, you have to get the right
one(s). I think there are only two ssd's on the market at the mo that are
actually worth buying, the rest aren't. The intel x-25 is one those two and
I would recommend it to anyone. The reason I got the intel x-25 is because I
exchanged emails with two people that raved about it. ssd's are the future
without any doubt.
 
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Rod Speed

tg said:
it's true some ssd's aren't worth the money, you have to get the right
one(s). I think there are only two ssd's on the market at the mo that
are actually worth buying, the rest aren't. The intel x-25 is one
those two and I would recommend it to anyone. The reason I got the
intel x-25 is because I exchanged emails with two people that raved
about it.
ssd's are the future without any doubt.

Fantasy.
 
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Chris S.

Rod Speed said:
You can do a lot better than that by hibernating instead of shutting down
or suspend to ram in spades.

For nothing.


They load even quicker if you dont stop them when you stop using them.


Which can get much more cheaply in other ways.
Intuitively obvious, but SSDs are a great improvement over antique "rotating
storage".

;) Chris
 
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Rod Speed

Chris S. wrote
Intuitively obvious, but SSDs are a great improvement over antique "rotating storage".

In some ways they are, in others they arent, most obviously when you need TBs of storage.
 
M

Mike Tomlinson

tg said:
no this ssd made a real difference - I can't think of any other mod that
could have created the same effect. Unless you know of one...

I agree. Very happy with my SSD. Don't pay any attention to Rod, he's
the group troll and full of shit.
 
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Rod Speed

GMAN wrote
This one i agree with Rod, when they get 3 TB SSD drives then we'll talk.

Yeah, thats the main area where rotating hard drives still leave SSDs for dead.

And its far from clear that the difference wont continue too.
 
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cjt

Intuitively obvious, but SSDs are a great improvement over antique
"rotating storage".

;) Chris
You might as well say having gobs of RAM is a great improvement over
rotating storage. Without context and some technical and economic
analysis either statement is unsupportable.

SSDs are a solution looking for a problem. The problem they seem to
have settled on is time to boot and/or load programs. That's not worth
the money, IMHO.

They're not a solution to bulk storage problems. Nor are they a
solution to swapping.
 
M

mm

gotta rave about my new ssd. For anyone who's um'ing and ar'ing about
whether to go for an ssd I would say go for it. I've just fitted a new Intel
X-25 160Gb drive, bit pricey but the speed increase is noticeable. My win7
pc boots up and shuts down in less than half the time of a normal sata drive
and programs load really quick. Everything is faster with an ssd resulting a
whole new computing experience.

Well, having dropped my laptop once and crashed it once by trying to
open a pistachio nut with it, I would like to get a netbook with a
SSD.

160 gig is more than I can afford, and I dont' think it woudl fit a
netbook anyhow, but 16gig is right in there.

I thought I could just use a 16 gig USB flashdrive for any other
storage. 32 gigs is more than enough for when I'm travelling.

Wouldn't that work? Any special problems?
 
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cjt

Well, having dropped my laptop once and crashed it once by trying to
open a pistachio nut with it, I would like to get a netbook with a
SSD.

160 gig is more than I can afford, and I dont' think it woudl fit a
netbook anyhow, but 16gig is right in there.

I thought I could just use a 16 gig USB flashdrive for any other
storage. 32 gigs is more than enough for when I'm travelling.

Wouldn't that work? Any special problems?

Besides being slow as molasses?
 
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Rod Speed

mm wrote
Well, having dropped my laptop once and crashed it once by trying to
open a pistachio nut with it, I would like to get a netbook with a SSD.
160 gig is more than I can afford,

And nothing like what I can get for the same price with rotating storage.
and I dont' think it woudl fit a netbook anyhow, but 16gig is right in there.
I thought I could just use a 16 gig USB flashdrive for any other
storage. 32 gigs is more than enough for when I'm travelling.

It isnt for me, because I want to watch documentarys etc even when I'm travelling.
Wouldn't that work? Any special problems?

The main problem for me is lack of storage.
 

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