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Andy
If I want to go back to sp2 and remove sp3, where are the sp2 files kept?
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
Andy said:If I want to go back to sp2 and remove sp3, where are the sp2 files kept?
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
SP3 is KB936929. Do you have a folder of that name in your $NT stuff ?
Check the size, see how much stuff is in it. Does it seem "Service Pack"
sized ?
Something like C:\Windows\$NtUninstallKB936929$ maybe.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
I can't check here, because my OS was installed from a Microsoft CD
as WinXP SP3, so there's no undo for me. I stay at SP3, forever.
Seems to work fine.
Paul
Paul said:SP3 is KB936929. Do you have a folder of that name in your $NT stuff ?
Check the size, see how much stuff is in it. Does it seem "Service
Pack"
sized ?
Something like C:\Windows\$NtUninstallKB936929$ maybe.
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If I want to go back to sp2 and remove sp3, where are the sp2 files kept?
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
David H. Lipman said:Yepper... However,
The problem is if there have been *many* Post SP3 updates that have
been installed since SP3 was installed.
As the time between the installation of SP3 increases and the number
of post SP3 applied HotFixes increases, the probability of chaos
increases if SP3 is uninstalled. Thus the removal of SP3 after a long
time period, as described, is contraindicated.
From: "glee" <[email protected]>
Yepper... However,
The problem is if there have been *many* Post SP3 updates that have been
installed since SP3 was installed.
As the time between the installation of SP3 increases and the number of post
SP3 applied HotFixes increases, the probability of chaos increases if SP3 is
uninstalled. Thus the removal of SP3 after a long time period, as
described, is contraindicated.
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Andy said:What you said does not make any sense.
If I remove sp3, it should be restored to the previous sp2.
The operative word is should.
Now if sp3 doesn't properly uninstall,it may be necessary to do a repair or reinstall sp2.
I hope that doesn't become necessary.
I have seen some things "break" with sp3 patches and hot fixes.
And _MICROSOFT Office 2010_ is interfering with an earlier version of Word as
well as hijacking the icon for .csv files that I open with a freeware program.
I feel that some of Microsoft's software is written with full knowledge that
it will cause conflicts with other software.
This is based on documented incidents by myself and other colleagues.
That is why I am considering going back to sp2.
Best regards,
Andy
If I want to go back to sp2 and remove sp3, where are the sp2 files kept?
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
Andy said:If I want to go back to sp2 and remove sp3, where are the sp2 files kept?
I want to make sure they are all there before I begin.
Thanks.
Andy said:.
What you said does not make any sense.
If I remove sp3, it should be restored to the previous
sp2.
The operative word is should.
Now if sp3 doesn't properly uninstall,it may be necessary
to do a repair or reinstall sp2.
I hope that doesn't become necessary.
I have seen some things "break" with sp3 patches and hot
fixes.
And MICROSOFT Office 2010 is interfering with an earlier
version of Word as
well as hijacking the icon for .csv files that I open
with a freeware program.
I feel that some of Microsoft's software is written with
full knowledge that it will cause conflicts with other
software.
This is based on documented incidents by myself and other
colleagues.
That is why I am considering going back to sp2.
Here's an eBay seller offering all 3 SPs, if download bandwidth is theTwayne said:In
The SP2 files aren't kept anywhere special and after installation are
spread all over creation on your disc. You would need to get a free
download of SP2 from MS if you don't already have it someplace. No worry,
it's free.
Chris S. said:Here's an eBay seller offering all 3 SPs, if download
bandwidth is the problem.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261163402013?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
And no, I have no association with the seller.
Chris
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It should, indeed. I've never done and and feel you're making an error in
judgement here, but ,,, with SP2 installed, get ready for a big boatload of
updates to SP2. If you don't allow them, anyone and everyone responding to
you is wasting their time. You'll have exactly the kind of machine the
virals and malware people love to come across! Non-updated machines are
there favorite targets by far. And there are a lot of them. So you better
have a great AV and anti-malware apps working or at the ready to keep your
machine running.
SP2 won't install if iit thinks SP3 is installed. It's more like a reinstall
of your OS will be necessary and whatever SP level it might contain. An
XP/SP2 is what you're wanting, but ... not so sure you should be doing that.
I have yet to see ANYTHING break with SP 3 patches, updates and hot fixes.
If that does happen, then it's wise to roll-badk that "patch" not throw out
the whole baby. EVERY one of those iincludes an uninstall program so you can
roll back the individual ones if they cause a problem.
I bet it is; depending on the version, that's by design. The only way you
can have two versions of office on the same machine is to be ready to allow
the "reinstall" efforts every time you switch from one to another. And that
assumes you did the installations in the proper order. MS explains how to do
it.
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That makes no sense. And is so minor as to be neglgible. If you don't like
the icon, change it.
I feel that you are damned by not having read the proper MS articles on
doing some of the things you do and also you may well have some file
corruption or even viruses or malware bugging you. Or is everything you're
relating coming from other people?
Something to keep in mind when reading about MS app problems: the
millions of people without problems have no reason to be posting; it's just
the ones needing help that post.
Why don't you provide some of that documentation? There may wel be far
simpler solutions than what you are considering.
You shouldn't do it. You're going to be going thru a lot of work for
nothing. And you're going to get a lot more updates, too, as in all the ones
after SP2 AND the ones that are "instead of" SP3. Unless you know more than
you appear to in your posts, you are headed for the possibility of a very
heavy boat-anchor sitting there on your desk. Or wherever.
If you do respond, try to answer the missing information and be a lot more
precise about what's doing what. Try to provide enough information to help
others to help you. I believe you are heading down the wrong path and it
could be a path to doom unless you like doing complete rebuilds of your
discs from scratch.
I'm sure there are others here who could do a great job of helping you if
you could be more precise and ask a few more precise questions about that
problems you yourself are experiencng.
HTH,
Twayne`
I have checked for viruses and malware.
My system is clean.
I use a "intrusion detection and prevention system"
program on my computer.
Smart
It's a lot of work setting up rules on what to allow and
which to deny.
It's worth the effort.
When XP wanted to defrag during an idle time,(this was
not a schedule event but part of the o.s. maintainance)
my security program notified me and I was given the
option to deny or kill or create a rule.
There are also millions of people who don't post problems
but use advice from friends to fix it or not or they live
with it.
And?
When I installed Microsoft's security essentials program,
it turned on Automatic Updates that I had disabled.
That was no accident, no virus or malware behavior, but
intentionally programmed by Microsoft with the full
knowledge of knowing the vulnerabilites that exist by
having Automatic Updates turned on.
I think you have made up your mind that Microsoft makes
no mistakes or sometimes behaves maliciously.
I paid good money for software and I expect to use it for
as long as I choose, not what some company thinks.
I may post more "shenanigans" that have occurred and are
still occuring, as well as fixes for those that I
discover.
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Checked with what? Which apps? Not all of them are created equal,
unfortunately.
Well, as clean as you can get it, I'm sure. That's why I asked about what
apps you used to be sure your system is clean.
I've never known XP to do that. Do you recall offhand how to set/unset that?
My Norton app will do that, but I ddn't know Windows could.
had that same experiience, as a matter of fact. I also got quite a
surprise when I tried to remove it. It just would not remove and it'd only
been on the computer for a few days tiime.
Minor detail; just set it back to where you wanted it. I have never heard of
any problems with Automatic Updates in any setting, though I always use
Custom Install so I can see what I'm downloading.
anytime they wish to, assuming you registered the OS.
I agree, wholeheartedly. That's why right now I have a macro running that's
finding and downloading every update/hotfix/etc. ever released since I
applied SP3.
One way of driiving out us XP-ers would be to remove ALL updates from
their free downloads. I'll keep on adding to that directory for as long as I
get updates, just in case they do something stupid on us.
That might be interesting to hear about. I still think you have been misled
however, and don't understand what's going to happen if you back up SP2.
Nor minor when a service pack or update writes changes to
the o.s.
I am sure you have read some of the so called details of
the various service packs.
They recently were selling Windows 8 for $5.00 outside
the U.S.
And?
And yes, they can turn you "off"
To turn off a remote computer generally requires a
connection to it.
Last figures show XP worldwide at 34% of all users.
And?
At many plants, instruments run on 486s on up.
And?
I am thinking you may not have run sp2 for very long.
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