sound activation problem P4P800-E deluxe

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william

P4P800-E mainboard

Audio (on board) problem.

On each start from the system and on each boot, i have to activate the
speakers on the options for the speakers to have sound.

The speakers are not detected automatiqaly on booting the system.

OS: winxp
The latest drivers are installed from www.asus.com .

Can ther a solution been found on this problem ?

(e-mail address removed)
 
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Paul

"william" said:
P4P800-E mainboard

Audio (on board) problem.

On each start from the system and on each boot, i have to activate the
speakers on the options for the speakers to have sound.

The speakers are not detected automatiqaly on booting the system.

OS: winxp
The latest drivers are installed from www.asus.com .

Can ther a solution been found on this problem ?

(e-mail address removed)

Have you downloaded the latest ALC850 drivers from the Asus
download site ? Drivers were posted on the download site
on Apr29, 2004. Perhaps a driver update will help ?

http://www.asus.it/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P4P800-E Deluxe&Type=All

There is a "Readme.txt" in the ALC850.zip file.

HTH,
Paul
 
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Nero

Speakers are NOT detected as they do NOT need drivers to work.
Drivers for sound are loaded yes but that is all.
It is impossible to have speakers detected as they are just external .
A pc cannot detect whether speakers are connected or not, if that was so
then if headphones were connected and not speakers then headphones would be
detected.
All that happens is the audio card /built in audio drivers get loaded.
A pc cannot know what is connected to speaker jacks.
USB speakers yes, regular ones no.
If I unplug my speakers then the setup for the sound and how the speakers
are configured stay the same.
If you have ever unplugged your speakers and plugged in headphones instead
have you ever seen it change from speakers to headphones on it's own?
No because it is not possible.
 
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Paul

"Nero" <[email protected]> said:
Speakers are NOT detected as they do NOT need drivers to work.
Drivers for sound are loaded yes but that is all.
It is impossible to have speakers detected as they are just external .
A pc cannot detect whether speakers are connected or not, if that was so
then if headphones were connected and not speakers then headphones would be
detected.
All that happens is the audio card /built in audio drivers get loaded.
A pc cannot know what is connected to speaker jacks.
USB speakers yes, regular ones no.
If I unplug my speakers then the setup for the sound and how the speakers
are configured stay the same.
If you have ever unplugged your speakers and plugged in headphones instead
have you ever seen it change from speakers to headphones on it's own?
No because it is not possible.

Speakers ARE detected. Speaker detection is used for the nifty
feature of auto-configuring the sound chip, so the user doesn't
have to do it manually. For example, if the user plugs in three
sets of speakers, the sound chip senses them, and the driver for
the sound chip, switches to 5.1 mode to drive the speakers. If
the user yanks two of the plugs out, leaving a set of stereo
speakers connected, the software can switch to 2.0 mode with no
user intervention.

I don't know if this is the latest revision any more, but have
a look on page 68 of the AC97 spec:

ftp://download.intel.com/labs/media/audio/download/ac97_r23.pdf

"Sensed bits relates to the I/O being sensed as either output
or inputs.

Sensed bits (outputs).

This field allows for the reporting of the type of output
peripheral/device plugged in the jack. Values specified below
should be interrogated in conjunction with the SR[5:0] and
OR[1:0] bits for accurate reporting.

00h ­ Data not valid.
01h ­ Indicates that there are no connected devices.
02h ­ Fingerprint. Indicates a specific fingerprint value for
devices that are not specified or are unknown.
03h ­ Speakers (8 ohms)
04h ­ Speakers (4 ohms)
05h ­ Powered speakers
06h ­ Stereo headphone
07h ­ SPDIF Out (electrical)
08h ­ SPDIF Out (TOS)
09h ­ Headset (mono speaker left channel and microphone. Read
Functions 5 and 4 for matching Microphone)
0Ah ­ Other. Allows a vendor to report sensing other type of
devices/peripherals. SR[5:0] together with OR[1:0] provide
information regarding the type of device sensed.
0Bh-0Eh ­ Reserved
0Fh ­ Unknown (use fingerprint)
10-1Fh ­ Reserved

OR[1:0] 0h Order Bits
These bits indicate the order the sensed result bits SR[5:0]
are using.
00 ­ 10 0 (i.e., Ohms)
01 ­ 10 1 (i.e., 10 Ohms)
10 ­ 10 2 (i.e., 100 Ohms)
11 ­ 10 3 (i.e., 1K Ohms)"

That should give a hint of how it works. The sound chip measures
the impedance of the connected device, and reports what it finds
to the software. A stereo headset, for example, is typically 32ohms
and is different than an unamplified speaker, which could be 8
or 4 ohms (or many other values for that matter). When a measured
value doesn't fall in a neat catagory, the "order bits" indicate
the magnitude of the reading.

In the case of the OP, his problem could be due to an immature
driver, as the notion of always successfully recognizing what
is plugged in, is pretty crazy in my opinion. I hate jack sensing
schemes, when they cannot be disabled, and I have a video card
that does stupid things, when IT decides to. Video cards also
have jack sensing.

Paul
 
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william

when the system has been started up there is no sound.
i have to activate the speakers and then i have sound.
on each boot i have to activate the speakers wahat is not normal
on my other mainboard from asus i do not have this problem
 

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